Rapper Macklemore is a vocal supporter of Palestine and Gaza residents. During a recent concert at MetLife Stadium, he yelled “Free Palestine!” onstage, projected images of devastation in the area, and performed protest song “Hind’s Hall.”

Now, it seems that American venues are not willing to play ball with the Seattle artist, and he has been dropped from Ed Sheeran’s Loop Tour.

“After discussions with stakeholders, Macklemore will not be performing on the remaining support dates,” according to Messina Touring Group, the promoter of Loop Tour. This news follows backlash from organizations like StopAntisemitism and others, such as pop star Pink.

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    “stakeholders” decided this, btw, not necessarily Sheeran himself.

    reminder that capitalism only ever thinks about “stakeholders” and “profit”

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      No. He was pressured by the venues and particularly Robert Kraft, lifelong friend of Trump, but made the decision himself.

      Being under pressure to do something doesn’t relieve you from the responsibility.

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        pressured how or for what? this spinless soulless dungtard is worth hundrends of millions already. He’s a pro-genocide pos … no excuse

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          Is the dancers and backstage operators worth millions? There’s a lot of people working on this show as well as the fans who paid for hotels and travel that he has responsibility for too.

          You might say, well who cares about them compared to the thousands being killed, and too that I’d ask you if that changes because Ed Sheeran decides not to have a concert.

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            Ed has enough money to pay them out of pocket.

            You’re a clown. Don’t post online if you’re just gonna defend those with all the power. Be a good foot soldier and suffer and die in silence like they want of you.

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            he literally has no problem doing fund-rising concerts for ukraine army… and what’s a fucking concert next to elite university students who risked and lost $80k tutions and deportations and their future careers to stand up for genocide. cannot put a lipstick on a pig

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      Not even profit. That’s just the permission structure. How often have stakeholders ruined a business or product because it wasnt the market they wanted

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      Fuck this though, sheeran is a fucking human person with a public platform. He has ingested over half a century of socially and politically aware folk music, stripped it of all its depth, context and activism, and shat out gallons of vapid slag that made him unfathomably personably wealthy. Growing a fucking pair of balls on this issue would have been the absolute minimum amount of effort he could have possibly done. Christ, like it would have honestly costed him a fucking cent to speak out against genocide one time. How the fuck are these the people we have chosen to elevate as a society

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        Didn’t even need to speak out. Just say no and let the oligarch pay the contract cancelation.

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      How would you know that? Or are you just trying to wash Sheerans hands of the cost of this? You work for a marketing company by chance?

      If you’re right then they factored in the cost of the backlash that would head toward Sheeran when more than half of all US voters sympathize with Palestine more than Israel, and 70% of Dems sympathize more with Palestine than israel. Once you start looking at younger people its even worse-- Israel has lost that entire next generation. Ed Sheerans listening demographic is primarily 13-27 year olds. So I hope the cost was worth it to Sheeran He’ll be getting less profits now.

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        Blame the people who own the stadiums and who chose to do this.

        Blaming Sheeran without even naming the group of stadium owners organized by Robert Kraft is kind of misdiagnosing the issue.

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            There can be more than one way to spin an issue, yes. Such as by creating a distraction to point blame away from the people who are responsible.

            Which you choose to spend your time promoting says something about your priorities.

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              Ed Shereen and his manager and his owners are all are equal pieces of shits. The twat is worth hundrends of millions and he still chooses to be a repulsive sellout who is pro-genocide.

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                Does he have billions of dollars and a friend group who owns most of the stadiums and concert venues in the United States?

                Pretending Ed Shereen and Robert Kraft are equally bad in this situation is disingenuous. One made the decision to blacklist anti-genocide artists and the other didn’t fight him.

                Talking about Ed Shereen, in the context of this story, is providing a smoke screen for Kraft and the other owners who are using their wealth to try to control messaging on Israel.

                Unless you’re collecting a paycheck to, I can’t imagine how this is difficult to understand.

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                  Okay so your logic says IOF soldiers also have no choice but to enlist and slaughter kids I guess. Does this IOF solider have billions to make laws? Or is it disingenuous to say that the soilder who kills is as bad as his genocidal masters who ordered him to do so?

                  Your argument fails on every metric. Count with me! that above was 1 . Now 2- I aslo gave the example of university students who lost $100k in tuition and deportations and their future career blacklists. Compared to an established superstar with $100Ms net worth. Who lost more?

                  Another nail in the coffin against your stupid argument 3- this hypocrite “apolitical” twat ed shitran had no problem doing fund rising concerts for ukraine army. and pink was singing GW Bush how you sleep at night when it was profitable.

                  no ond gives a fuck about that kraft shithead and everyone knows he’s evil, but ed shitran is complicit like an IOF soldier who kills. There is no genocide without these soldiers.

                  4- He did not stay silent and not benifit. Ed Shitran and IOF soliders are the literally the ones getting paid to be complict in evil. Ed Shitran profited from genocide by normalizing it.
                  and wtf are you talking about I’m getting paid? by big billionares from Gaza? omg… lmao im done.

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      And ed Sheeran, who is immensely popular and will be fine, should just refuse to play the rest of the tour.

      “But he has a contraaaaact” don’t wanna hear it.

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      It was a costume he wore as part of a skit to move through a crowd before climbing on stage for a performance. It was part of an act and had nothing to do with judaism. Afterward he apologized when seth-the-dipshit-rogan whined/complained about it, and the ADL accepted Mackelmore’s apology and said it was fine. If its good enough for the awful ADL, it ought to be good enough for you, but hey go off I guess.

      This reminds me of the uproar after that wonderwoman movie when modern soldiers from a fictional country were shooting at desert dwelling children and some zionists complained it was clearly meant to be israelis, because no one else is known for shooting up innocent little kids running from troops in a desert. This is the same streisand-effect lack of self awareness your comment and seth rogans whining is all about.

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      Thanks for enlightening me with the photo.

      So I still believe you can support human rights and not be an antisemite and be critical of human rights abuses of Gazans, but this is the sort of joke an antisemite might make. The again, he apologized.

      I really believe people should be able to accidentally make mistakes and fuck up and not get cancelled. But this does put a slightly different spin on things where I can understand why people would question things. Because it’s more than just a mild costume, it’s reminiscent of historical Nazi depictions of Jewish people.

      He may have just genuinely fucked up and not realized how disrespectful that was… or maybe he is an antisemite. But it’s sort of like the Musk Hitler salute and “how could you not know what that means or how people would react?” I think Makelmore is probably a decent person based on his history and probably just massively fucked up, but I could be wrong on that, and I really wish I didn’t have to wonder.

      I still think Gazans are being treated horribly and human rights violations are occurring and people shouldn’t be penalized for wanting human rights standards.

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        I fully agree with all of the above regarding support for human rights and the treatment of Gazans, but for me this costume + “from the river to the sea” (meaning ethnic cleansing of Israelis) are clear tells. Even if he isn’t an antisemite or he isn’t anymore, he should’ve been a smarter. Would we show the same understanding to a public figure who openly used the N-word toward someone unironically?

        I understand why Ed Sheeran would drop him and I don’t think it should be particularly controversial.

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          Does “from the river to the sea” mean ethnic cleansing of Israelis? I didn’t know that.

          My limited knowledge of the situation is Jewish people left the area due to conflict, thousands of years passed, the Holocaust happened, British somehow “negotiated” their return (under threat of violence to the then-local population) and displaced Palestinians but Palestinians had some land, it just wasn’t as much, Jewish people were attacked and then retaliated by taking more land in the 7 days war, some Palestinians were mad at Israel and tried to attack Israel with rockets and other attacks, Israel then put tremendous and horrible restrictions on all Palestinians that were unreasonable and terrible and it just existed like that (and this part of the situation I believe is greatly understated as being a main cause of this situation), Palestinians elected Hamas that wanted to kill all Jewish people, Hamas killed and kidnapped a bunch of Jewish teenagers at a rave, many of whom were having fun and probably on ecstasy when the attack happened which in some ways is more horrifying, and then also killed a bunch of Israelis in settlements, including babies, then Israel retaliated against Hamas by in theory targeting specific Hamas members but also committing a huge massive number of war crimes, many of which were documented on TikTok, and then TikTok was bought out to try to hide the war crimes and Jewish allies tried to do things like dismantle or weaken the International Criminal Court, then people who were against war crimes were fired from work and penalized for speaking out, which looked really bad for Jewish people, even Jewish people who weren’t a part of the situation.

          I knew Hamas wanted to kill all Jewish people. I just didn’t know that slogan means ethnic cleansing of Jewish people. It’s hard to think in those terms when most of the dead people are Palestinians, many of whom likely weren’t political, but does it mean that? Because I’ve heard a lot of liberal and leftist types repeat that; is it actually a call for Jewish ethnic cleansing?, because that is quite scary.

          This may be a post that primarily just illustrates my ignorance of geography. What river? What sea? Perhaps it seems innocuous because I don’t understand International geographical stuff, sort of like how some people from the US say Europe is a county they never want to visit. It’s interesting to me because I’m somewhat ignorant, but so are lots of people. Do most people view that slogan as a call for ethnic cleansing?

          It still doesn’t mean the war crimes were okay. There was a ton of stuff just posted on TikTok, all out in the open, for months, until it was bought out and taken down.

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    Sorry Ed, but there’s no such thing as being “apolitical” anymore. Willingness to ignore the current reality is a political statement in and of itself, and a terrible one at that. If you aren’t willing to seize this moment and stand up for what is right, you can go the fuck away.

    I get that it wasn’t his decision whether or not Macklemore got booted, but it was his choice not to go down with the anti-genocide ship, and he did so because he doesn’t want to lose the pro-genocide cash.

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      Being apolitical in a democracy is in itself a paradox at best and a clear sign of hipocrasy at worst.

      A society that requires citizen participation in governance and one chooses to be ignorant? Absurd.

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    It’s really upsetting when people equate human rights support with antisemitism.

    Human rights support does not mean anti-Israel.

    Being against genocide and being for human rights and supporting Israel’s ability to defend itself against Hamas and also saying Israel is committing human rights violations are not logically inconsistent positions.

    It does bother me when support for Gazans treads into the realm of antisemitism, that does sometimes happen, antisemitism is increasing and is awful, and also, there’s no indication that I see that Macklemore was being antisemitic.

    Pink mentioned in her response he once had a Same Love performance in which he was making fun of Jewish people. I haven’t seen that, I can’t find it online, and I don’t know if seeing it would make a difference in my view of this.

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      Woah woah that’s a bit harsh.

      I would say Ed is a subhuman invertebrate ghoul who has somehow been cynically shitting out lobotomized slop-pop since 2012, and is now limply capitulating to the whims of his pedofaschist handlers. Least surprising heel turn of the century.

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      Given that the Palestinian people are Semitic people themselves, I would say that systematically destroying their lives, homes, and culture is more antisemitic than any combination of words that any person could ever string together.

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        There are no “semitic people”. It’s a racist term coined by some German dude ages ago and it has no scientific value at all. Stop making antisemitism about Palestinians.

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            Ignorant comment. “Semitic people” is in the same intellectual genealogy as “Aryan people”, the terms were proposed as opposites. There are semitic languages and the term “aryan languages” is not entirely discredited (it appears as “Indo-Aryan” and refers to a subfamily of Indo-European languages). But nothing about any of this has to do with the existence of the Palestinian people and nation which is a political fact regardless of biological or linguistic lineages.

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              It all boils down to race talk eventually, no matter what intellectual gymnastics you perform. One label is as good as another in that game. Arabs learned well from Hilter’s ideas after WW2. Whether you want to discuss the “people of Palestine” or “the Palestinian People”, then Jews, Christians, Moslems, Turks, Babylonians (and their descendents…), Romans from the Italian peninsula, Greeks, Western Europeans from the middle ages… all must be considered in the mix and none excluded for any reason. All have either lived or owned/possessed the land for centuries, across various eras in history.

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                That’s a load of 19th century bullshit. The Palestinians are a People because they share a series of attributes (language, kinship, culture, common historical narratives and a shared political national project) and use those shared attributes to self identify as a People. That’s it, none of the other crap.

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                  and use those shared attributes to self identify as a People.

                  Go ahead, create your own delusional thought bubble and language that supports it.

                  if the rest of the world doesn’t see it your way then it still avails you nothing.

                  consider the example of ISIL for recent insights on how this will end for those who engage in creating imaginary worlds for themselves… inside of thought bubbles .

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          This is true, although, I’m not sure what you mean by that last part.

          The term anti-Semitic itself is racist as there are no people of “Shem”. The concept is a weird mashup of those native to the Levant and those who follow the Jewish religion or culture. Anti-Jewish would be a way better descriptor over antisemitic, but Zionists love the term antisemitic as it creates a false impression that their enthonational religious claims over the Levant are historically founded over the native Palestinian population.

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            It’s simply a term that’s historically developed because some German assholes called themselves “Antisemiten”. The term “racism” is equally flawed as it implies the existence of human races.

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              From what I understand, that flaw can be lessened (not voided) by using sociology instead of eugenics/pseudobiology. So-called “races” as social constructs, or “perceived races” are less based on discrimination. This concepts can instead describe the existing discrimination. That does not nullify your point, by the way, it just dampens the flaw you pointed to.

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      StopAntisemitism criticised the rapper, saying “Jewish fans bought tickets to see Ed Sheeran sing… not to be ambushed by Macklemore’s anti-Israel propaganda.”

      The next night, Macklemore returned to the same stage and directly addressed his “Jewish brothers and sisters” in the audience.

      “Criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide, is in no way a criticism of you,”

      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq0m3pkmgg1ko

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      Genetic testing has shown that the Palestinians are, by and large, Canaanites.

      They are by default a semitic people.

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    Ed Sheeran here had a chance to be a hero to everyone who believes in humanity and human rights. He could have cancelled the tour for all the venues being explicitly pro-genocide and moved the concerts to other venues in the area. He would have made less money, yes. It would cost him a few fans, but he would’ve gained so many mlre. Instead he caved like a building built out of cotton candy in a short rain shower. And now I’ve sanitized my playlists from p!NK and Ed Sheeran music, these two have shown themselves to have no values. P!NK being the worst by far by actively picking the side of the oppressor. I’m done with her. Fuck Israel. Free Palestine one hundred times!

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      Dude really showed his true colors there. Doesn’t he have enough money already ? I already disliked his music but now I actually dislike him as a person.