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I moved to LibreWolf back when Mozilla announced AI features
I appreciate its privacy-focused approach
I think there is a generaal consensus to say it’s not ARC
Despite my issues with it, I use Chrome. It’s simply too integrated into my life. But I just saw (like 2 minutes ago) from another thread here about Zen Browser and maaaan is it nice.
Isn’t Zen just a skin of firefox, so the same issues?
Yes, it seems to use the same engine as Firefox.
But not a fork, right? Sorry I don’t understand it clearly.
Zen Browser is a free and open-source fork of Mozilla Firefox, with its main focus being privacy, customizability and design, and it is licensed under the Mozilla Public License 2.0 (MPL 2.0).
Seems to be a fork.
Chromium browsers are affected by any changes to chrome, I wonder if the same is true for Firefox forks.
Simple forks, sure. Independent forks? No. So I guess it depends on if Zen considers itself independent or not, and I can’t seem to find that information.
No, because the Mozilla’s new policy doesnt apply to forks.
Zen is good. Arc is decent if you must have a chromium browser for some reason, but not OSS
Isn’t Zen just a skin of firefox, so the same issues? And Arc is VC funded…
IMO, if I’m going to jump from Chrome it might as well be for libre/OSS. No reason to just from proprietary to proprietary.
I use Librewolf as my daily driver, however it breaks a lot of websites. We had to purchase plane tickets yesterday and to use regular Firefox.
I was super hyped for Ladybird but there was this weird thing regarding pronouns on their docs (last year?) and no matter the outcome, I just decided to not follow it anymore.
I have Chromium installed for things that break even on regular Firefox and for comparing websites when I need.
On mobile (grapheneOS), I am currently using Firefox Nightly, I think because it was the only one I was able to install extensions from custom repositories, I am not sure if that’s still the case. I know I can (and should use) Vanadium, but I always miss my FF extensions when I do it. I play a lot of things so I love when I am automatically redirected from Fandom to a Breeze wiki instance, for example.
I never tried any other browsers of the list, and honestly I am very curious on the differences between Librewolf and Waterfox. Wasn’t able to do the research by myself yet.
Everything is just a skin of either Chrome or Firefox. Until recently, all browser on iPhone were a skin of Safari. Ladybird is the exception.
LibreWolf
Zen Browser I love it :)
Still Firefox. Every time Mozilla does anything the entire privacy community goes insane. The terms of use they published seem entirely benign, and the only thing anyone can actually point to is the “direction being worrisome”. Well, I’ll get worried when they update the terms to be actually onerous. Everything even possibly annoying can be disabled, and it’s still the only browser engine offering competition against Chrome ruling the web.
I don’t see how you could find the terms not concerning and their removal of stating they don’t sell data
What in the terms is concerning? They still have the bulk of the language in the old data privacy guarantee as well. This seems like they just got a more circumspect legal department who wants to cover their ass.
It’s always been the case that Mozilla could decide to just make Firefox suck ass. Again, I’ll be worried when they actually change the terms to something unacceptable.
It’s easy you just don’t worry too much about it. Is this a completely dumbass, reality avoidant coping strategy? You be the judge
Well, yes.
Firefox with Arkenfox. I’m not going to help the Chromium monopoly. The changes suck, but oh the hell well.
Been using zen for a few days with ublock, no issues so far but I might go back to librewolf soon even though it feels less modern. It just feels safer, idk tbh
Librewolf & waterfox are fantastic. Zen is interesting but it takes some work if you are used to firefox/Librewolf. Ladybird isn’t out yet 🫠
Been moving over to LibreWolf and I’m pretty happy with it so far. I added NoScript and CanvasBlocker extensions, along with my password manager, and I’m getting settled in with it now.
The fingerprint protections in Librewolf already protect against canvas fingerprinting. You actually make ourself stand out even mkre by using it. Even with RFP disable, ETP still protects against canvas fingerprinting.
Nice, I was unaware, thanks!
Firefox because I don’t fuck around. ublock origin, betterfox, and nextdns. My config ensures there is that one site I need to use ungoogled-chromium for, once a month.
Found this on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43200604
Recent news about Firefox finally got me to go with LibreWolf.
I love Librewolf for PC and Mull for Android.
Mull development has been abandoned. You might want to switch to IronFox, the community’s fork to continue its legacy.
