Ello Ello.

Can you recommend a program with which I can generate commit messages locally? I DO NOT want an LLM local or cloud API. What I want is a tiny or small language model. If I could easily swap or customize the model for each project, it would be better, too. So I could have smaller models for specific projects. I can do the training meself.

Thanks in advance!

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        17 days ago

        Its small in the sense it’ll run on basically any GPU from the last decade, rather than high end or specialised GPUs. And there is a 1GB gemma4 model, which is meant for CPU/phones.

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            You’re not wrong though, even 1GB is quite lot for writing commit messages, I gave it a quick go, and it takes around 15-30s to analyse a very small diff. Kinda silly for git messages.

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              17 days ago

              Thanks for letting us know. Yeah sure. It’s not worth it. I personally take about 10s to write the commit message. So such a thing will just make it worse.

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      8GB means around 8B parameters. It’s no where near small. I meant the classic language models before LLMs existed. Something which I can easily execute on CPU to generate the commit messages.

      And here, I’m not asking for “what model” rather “what utility” which uses such these models. Finding or training a model is much easier than maintaining such a software and keeping it useful.

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        the classic language models before LLMs existed

        Which models are you referring to here? Earlier versions of GPT (like GPT-2)?

        There are small LLMs like Phi 4 Mini that you could look at. Those were part of the “small language model” craze (SLMs).

        If you want meaningful commit messages though, nothing beats handwritten messages. Commit frequently and the messages should be short and easy to come up with.

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          17 days ago

          Commit messages are for sure short and easy to come up with, already. The problem’s typing some common stuff every single time.

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    A commit message is not supposed to be a summary of the code. It is supposed to gives information that you cannot deduct from the diff. Like:

    • Is there an attached ticket ?
    • Does it produce side effects ?
    • Is it a quick and dirty fix just before the release ?
    • What are the consequence of the modification ?
    • Why you choose this approach instead of another ?
    • Why are you not able to add regression test ? etc …

    The first guy at Cursor that create the feature to generate commit message from diff is just a fucking moron that don’t understand the role of a commit message.

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      Bullshit. They should also be a summary of the diff. Why would I want to have to read the entire diff to know what the commit is even trying to do?

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        That’s the role of the commit title, with tags if you follow https://www.conventionalcommits.org/ standard.

        99% of commit description will never be read. Only the title is usefull when you scroll to a git log.

        But, for the remaining 1%, it means you ended up doing a git blame, git bisect or any funky stuff like this to troubleshot a bug. And when you find the commit that introduced the regression, written by some dude that leaved the company 5 years ago and see a description like “Add the whatever method in whatever class that do the stuff explained by the doc written in the file”… Well, thanks bro. But why did you do this !!!

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    17 days ago

    why generate commit messages? they are notes to yourself about what you have done and why. they don’t need to be more than a single line.

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      17 days ago

      they are not notes to meself when there are others in the project. And the commit message is not always one line. Sometimes it’s more. And even if it is one line, it is still annoying to manually type for everything and every change.

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        You and your team will have to decide, but in my experience generating commit messages is not particularly useful.

        Because you really just want a short (ideally one-line) summary of the changes. If someone’s interested in the details, they can look at the diff (and hell, have that then summarized by an LLM, if needed). Adding a bullet point list for each concrete change adds a ton of noise to the commit log, which is IMHO not worth it.

        Where long commit messages are actually useful is for documenting things that aren’t written into the code, mainly why you made the change. But since they’re not in the code, the LLM can’t generate that part for you.

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        17 days ago

        but that’s your job. document the rationale of your changes for others.

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    17 days ago

    You might not want to admit it, but you’re asking for a local LLM.

    “Small” is just a euphemism for local.

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      17 days ago

      Well, if a meaningful commit message can be created only with a model as big as 1B parameters, I’m better off doing them meself.

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        “Meaningful” is doing the heavy lifting.

        To make a good commit message it must understand your codebase, and programming in general.

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    17 days ago

    What is your small lm threshold?

    There are Gemma 4 models that run on phones, is that what you’re looking for?

    To do this well you will need tool calls because just reading the git diff won’t be enough context to do a good job.

    This is probably something you can fine tune, it is getting exponentially cheaper to do this, but without knowing why you don’t want to self host an existing LLM to solve this problem it’s hard to give good advice.

    You can look at smollm3 or nanogpt and nanollama as (dated) examples of how to build such a small model yourself, but they’re still LLMs that run on LLM tools. Smollm has guides to fine tune for your task.

    You could run them with PyTorch directly or something too, if you’re opposed to the full llama.cpp (vllm is even heavier, with very long startup times).