TL;DR I didn’t make it in time. Fuck you Trump!
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Hold off. Kraznov is getting so much shit he is going to walk it back, so he says. Can’t trust him any more than a rabid bat though.
Tariffs? Oh right, import taxes. Fuck Trump.
Ew…I don’t even want to know what cheeto based sexual diseases you’d get from fucking trump…
I worry it’s a lot, and many different varieties. They may be thunder-doming in his body as we speak, with only the injections from the pre-teen blood banks he has trapped in the basement keeping everything at bay.
Fun fact: he’s powered by syphilis - keeps him crazy but it keeps him going.
You might come down with a severe case of Eric.
And most of the media went right along with wording such as “tariffs on China” rather than than “tariffs on US buyers”
MSMs are totally complicit because the owners of these msms are trump supporters. CNNs and the others are just fox-lite.
“media” is already plural btw
They should just call them import or sales taxes, the average person doesn’t get tariffs.
Honestly; I’m impressed they both messaged you and gave you options.
Usually you wouldn’t find out until the mailman is demanding payment for the package he’s holding hostage in front of you.
Is the USPS even equipped to collect customs fees? As USian I’ve never paid an import fee as an end consumer ever in my entire life. All of this is so stupid.
The CBP collect import taxes. You never had to pay it because there was a longstanding rule called “De Minimis” which exempted all items under $800 from import taxes. the 2nd trump administration overturned the De Minimis rule (does not require congress AFIAK).
Usually, if you buy from a US reseller, you don’t pay it directly, but if you order directly from outside of the country, it goes through customs and you’ll have to pay it.
You never had to pay it because there was a longstanding rule called “De Minimis” which exempted all items under $800 from import taxes.
I can understand why they’d want to get rid of this… It was very generous and often meant that buying goods from an overseas supplier was cheaper than buying the exact same items from a US-based supplier. For example, I’ve bought MikroTik hardware from a Latvian supplier (Getic) because it ended up noticeably cheaper than buying from a US store, even after shipping.
Most countries have duty-free thresholds that are much lower, around the equivalent of $50-100 before taxes and duties are applied. The US limit used to be $200 until 2016.
protectionism doesn’t work tho
I agree, and don’t think there should be any tariffs.
Having said that, a US store that has to pay sales tax is never going to win over a foreign store that doesn’t have to pay sales tax. Even after shipping, the exact same product will likely be cheaper to buy from the European store.
If you buy something from Europe under the de minimis exception, there’s no tax applied at all. European countries/companies usually don’t tax buyers from outside the EU, and the US doesn’t tax it either.
Applying the same tax for both US and international purchases makes sense IMO. This is what Australia does: The sales tax rate is 10% across the whole country, and foreign stores that sell to Australians have to collect 10% tax and send it to the Australian government. Collecting taxes at the point of payment, even for foreign stores, avoids customers having to pay taxes separately when the package arrives in the country.
This is probably why the EU itself recently changed the rules and VAT (the EU’s version of Sales Tax) is payable on all purchases from outside the EU, no matter how small the value, but import tax remains only payable on purchases above €150.
They also set up a system so that non-EU retail sellers can collect VAT directly on payment - just like EU ones do - so for example a buyer from the EU buying stuff via AliExpress will have the VAT added to the price during checkout.
They also set up a system so that non-EU retail sellers can collect VAT directly on payment
That’s what Australia does too. Since the sellers already had their systems set up to handle it for Australia, it was probably easy for them to extend it to be used for the EU too.
I was surprised too! I guess Canadians hold up to their reputation 🙂👍
Yeah, Canadians are good people. I like them a lot.
Canada has all sorts of people, like every other country. Canadian mining companies are awful in Mexico, negotiating draconian concessions from corrupt governments, which allows them to extract minerals very cheap while ignoring environmental laws.
I understand that corrupt politicians are to blame, but Canadian businessmen can be surprisingly impolite and exploitative.
AtkinsRéalis (known as SNC-Lavalin at the time) is a Canadian construction company that was at the centre of a huge scandal in Canada. They were caught bribing the son of Libian dictator Gaddafi to get a contract to build a prison, allegedly for political prisoners.
While the Justice Minister was having this company prosecuted, the Prime Minister (Justin Trudeau) demanded that she give AtkinsRéalis a slap on the wrist and a deferred prosecution agreement. When she refused, she was driven from her position.
Canada’s government has a history of propping up bad actors like this, and goes out of their way to support several oligopolies that run significant chunks of the Canadian market. Bell/Rogers/Telus own most of Canada’s mobile and internet offerings, Loblaws/Sobeys/Metro own most of Canada’s grocery stores, much of Canada’s produce and meat are controlled by cartels, etc… The maple syrup cartel is very powerful and wealthy and yes you’re reading that right, there is a maple syrup cartel and even a maple syrup black market.
One special mention goes out to the Canadian Real Estate industry, which is full of actual crooks all over the place and just disgusting. Did you know in Canada it is legal for a real estate agent to represent both sides of a purchase? Agents also will refuse to work with any of the bargain agencies that charge less than the standard 2.5% commission, basically locking them out of the industry. This crap is part of why housing prices have bubbled so hard, and together with price fixing by landlords they have managed to keep Canadian housing prices at levels so stupid homelessness has increased several times over.
Canadian people are often too fixated on not being seen to be a problem, what some call “politeness”, to the point they won’t even stand up for themselves. That unwillingness to protest or try to change things has allowed this to happen for a very long time. Because of this awful “politeness” many Canadians are even cheering on new laws limiting union action.
tl;dr Canada is a banana republic and Canadians are cucked
Canada as a nation has a concept of common good.
America is obsessed with the idea of not helping the poor because if they’re not incentivized to “bootstrap,” they’ll get lazy.
Americans die of not having access to drugs that are developed In America and subsidized by American tax dollars.
I think we all know which is more ethical.
I heard of how nice Canadians are, but where I live, all the Canadians I met so far are a bit of douche. Maybe it is just coincidence on my part, or the nice ones stay in their country.
Or if everyone around you is an asshole then …
Wish the company name was included. They seem to have their shit together.
Me too. I’m on the right side of the border and would happily order from this company if they sell something I need.
Soooooo, what happens if you drive to Canada, buy something, and then drive home?
CBP website still says personal exemptions of $200 per person exist if you’ve been out of the USA for 48 hours or more, but who knows if that still applies with the trump bull in the international trade china shop.
“You may still bring back $200 worth of items free of duty and tax. As discussed earlier, these items must be for your personal or household use.”
The way I read it you don’'t have to be out for more than 48 hours. It’s really not phrased very clearly though.
If you cannot claim other exemptions because you have not been out of the country for at least 48 hours, you may still bring back $200 worth of items free of duty and tax.
You’d have to declare it and pay any import taxes on it, same as you would have had to do before the tariffs.
Smuggling?
Your butt will be probed for illegal immigrants, drugs or car parts
They don’t even bother with your car trunk anymore, that’s too obvious. Straight into the anus they search.
🦅🇺🇲
Any news about your part Sir_Kevin? I’m curious if anything has happened since Trump already backpedaled a bit.
They actually got back with me and pointed me towards a US seller that they had shipped to before the tariffs went into effect. So I was able to buy it from them and dodge all that freedom we have at the border.
Wow that’s quite nice of them as well!
I was very impressed by that. It’s so rare to see a company actually give a shit about anyone.
But this will make the cost of eggs go down!/s
Crash the market hard enough and people won’t be able to afford them…
I mean… it might make the eggs cost less relative to other things.
“Additionally, the $800 exemption for low-value goods has been removed.”
I didn’t even know such a thing existed, it’s not something reported on the news.
So every product will be hit with the tariff raising prices, and not just expensive products getting the tariffs. Yikes!
damn!
And it’s not even this government’s first big unambiguous fuck you to the common people.
This is what allowed Temu and Alibaba and Wish and the like to happen (their business model was to send every single product as a single package worth under 800$, leading to enormous shipping times and waste etc., but they don’t have to pay import taxes).
enormous shipping times
This definitely improved over time. I don’t order much from Aliexpress, but the last two items I ordered arrived in just over a week - a similar time frame as ordering from a US store that doesn’t do fast shipping. A few days in China, then on a plane, then a few days in the USA.
I’ve seen a similar thing happen overtime for Aliexpress shipping to Europe - it used to take 2 months to were I am (Portugal), now it takes a bit over a week.
I think they set-up some kind of consolidated shipping operation so that the sellers on their site can ship things via Aliexpress’ own system, which is way faster (and invariably involves air-shipping via The Netherlands) and often is listed as Free Shipping.
I’ve bought once or twice from sellers there that don’t use it and those packages still take 2 months to get here.
I mention this because it makes sense that Aliexpress has set up a similar system for the US given that it’s a market which is almost as big as the EU.
They also have warehouses in the EU which means that as a customer you don’t have to deal with duties and import VAT at all.
It’s exciting time for smugglers. Ever wanted to be one now is prime business hours. Go make Han Solo proud like my mother used to in iron curtain 80s
Trump is a Russian asset. America will fall within a year. Russia and China will expand their territories freely until Europe is ready to arm itself.
All the business owners voted trump and now they’re crying about free trade 😂
I hope they all fucking starve. I mean it won’t happen but I can dream.
This will definitely affect every American, every Canadian, and all citizens and residents of any country targeted by a trade war.
Not sure how much it will affect China tbh, they can self sustain. The manufacturers and exporters though, they won’t be happy about it.
Yeah. We don’t know how it will affect China. But some people have calculated how much it will affect US people
Trump’s taxes on imports (tariffs) from Canada, Mexico, and China will cost people in the United States somewhere around $260 billion a year or around $2,000 a household.
Here is an article about it:
Trump Set to Whack US Working Class With Historic $2,000 Tax Hike
Many Americans do not care. Brains have been rotted by their social media and “anti-woke” identity politics so critical thinking is waning. They’ll pay more and find a way to not blame it on Trump.
America as a positive cultural force in the world is on its dying breaths. It was a good run. The rest of the world should be looking at moving forward while leaving America and the crypto, AI, and social networking dystopia it seems obsessed with creating behind.
The rest of the world should be emphasizing divestment in the US and, overall, leaving America behind at this critical juncture.
I bought a bunch of electronics from China back in December. No regrets.
I’m worried their networking equipment could be compromised, worse than “American” equipment.
After the November election we bought a fridge early we were mildly interested in that is manufactured in Mexico. It seemed conspiratorial to consider possible tariffs in the purchase equation considering decades of free trade with NAFTA and later USMCA.
Yet here we are and we’re very glad we bought the multi-thousand dollar fridge pre-trump-tarrifs.
In November, the boyfriend and I went ahead and pulled the trigger on replacing both of our aging laptops (even though it was a bit earlier than I’d like- I just play a lot of Stardew Valley, I don’t really need anything fancy).
Thank goodness for that. I’m sad other people won’t have been as fortunate.
Our fridge is 12 years old and we’re just hoping it keeps chugging on 🥲 Four more years!
Yeah, my car shit the bed right before the election and I had to get a new one.
Looking back, I’m glad I got it when I did. It was manufactured in Mexico, like most cars in America. If my old car had lasted 6 more months, I might have ended up paying 25% more for what I’m driving now.
…so you ordered this in July when he announced the tariffs?
