The IRS rules governing nonprofits still required the Mozilla Foundation to beg big to go big: the parent had to go find big grants from Soros, Ford, Knight, MacArthur, and give smaller grants to many. This put it in the lefties-only-no-righty-Irish-need-apply revolving-door personnel sector of NGOs and nonprofits (too many glowies there for me, too). Which meant I had a hostile MoFo over my head the minute I got CEO appointment from the MoCo board…
Of course I can’t comment on anything about my exit, for reasons that only the most loopy HN h8ers still can’t figure out.
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Right wing asshole shows to the world again that they never improved and are even more of a right wing asshole.
This is why I never used Brave anything longer than a brief look. Fuck this dude, I’m glad Mozilla removed him.
I understood what he said. Strip out some rude terms and it sounds accurate. The comments here sound like someone shouted “squirrel” to a pack of rabid dogs.
I also lack common sense and am posting this comment. In my feeble defense I really don’t know the guy, and suspect he likes baiting others
Which is accurate? It reads like an unhinged paranoid conspiracist. Do you think Geroge Soros runs mozilla? Do you think it’s being controlled by federal agents?
Oh dear, here I go.
Do you have reading skills?
Having fun with the… reverse sealioning?
The original op took some things out of context, Ford, last I checked, was not a bastion of the left. He names big donors.
Then he describes how that money trickles down; and the last I checked the not so polite description is more accurate than not.
I don’t mind people bashing bad guys here; and I’m sure this fellow has spent years raiding your hackles. But some people like me, it’s just embarrassing to read
“Ford, last I checked, was not a bastion of the left.”
The Ford Foundation is located in New York City at the Center for Social Justice
The Ford Foundation is one of the primary foundations offering grants that support and maintain diversity in higher education
You said it “sounds accurate” then complained about people’s criticism of it. You didn’t actually give any detail about what’s accurate about it or try to explain it in terms that aren’t “rude”.
So my reading comprehension is fine, it’s just your ability to actually explain what it is you agree with (in terms that aren’t “rude”) is lacking.
Ok:
- list of donors that are not all left
- parent organizations that get money from above
- mozilla gets money from parents
Op latches onto one donor; pulls some other stuff out , and the crowd goes wild
Okay, but what’s the bad part here? That’s just a very generic overview of how donating works.
The bad part is four things:
- the op either deliberately or legitimately did not understand what was being said
- the vast majority of the comments just read what the op wrote and not what was said
- having this many comments out of whack with this many upvotes gives ammunition to the bigots
- this is a tech forum ??
the vast majority of the comments just read what the op wrote and not what was said
What part of my post isn’t something he said
This put it in the lefties-only-no-righty-Irish-need-apply revolving-door personnel sector of NGOs
Ok, so you say the donors are not all left, so why would a politically diverse set of donors result in Mozilla having “lefties-only” hiring practices? Reading comprehension requires some critical thinking.
It seems Brendan Eich doesn’t understand that it’s a politcal diverse group that donated to Mozilla (as you do), given the next sentence. Someone with strong reading comprehension would understand logic of, but I’ll explain it to you. His statement is saying that Mozilla became a politically biased organization because of influence from those that donated to it.
Though your strong reading comprehension may have resulted in you having a different interpretation of “lefties-only-no-righty-Irish-need-apply” to mean… well maybe explain what that means to us poor illiterate people that don’t possess your intellectual prowess, LOL.
Also do you care to comment on your interpretation on the “glowies” remark? What does that word mean to you? What is Brendan Eich saying there? Something you agree with I guess.
Does anyone know of a decent browser that syncs between Android and Windows versions that isn’t Firefox based? Mobile Firefox’s UX is not my cup of tea
try Vivaldi.
Not shocked the fake coin browser has a right-wing CEO.
What is a “real coin”? Like a nickel? The little pieces of cheap metal with slavers on it?
Yes (Chad face)
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Oh, BTC.
Gross
The whole point of fake coins is to trade them for real coins.
Yeah, a lot of people say things like “a BloingCoin is worth €1000” or “1 PissBux is worth more than a barrel of oil” but, like, so what? I know how many apples I can buy with €1 (about two). How many apples can I buy with a BloingCoin or a PissBux? Or, for that matter, a barrel of oil?
Can I pay my taxes, rent, and student loans in your currency? If not then it’s not real money
Exactly this. People who buy crypto with Real Money only do so in the expectation that they’ll later be able to sell it for more Real Money. By design, it doesn’t represent labor, materials, services, anything of actual worth, it just sucks the value out of fiat currency like a parasite.
The origin story of Brave is entirely right-wing. He was forced out of Mozilla because of his public stances on political topics. It’s no secret that after being forced out for his politics, he went on to create a new browser company.
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Vivaldi to replace brave if Firefox is not enough
Vivaldi’s UI is so irritatingly laggy. Their feature set is great, but my 5800x3d can’t make it change tabs smoothly and quickly.
I love Cromite, in that case. Lightning fast, barebones like Chromium, and has the best built in anti-fingerprinting I know of.
Vivaldi is a very good browser, but if you want to support open web standards it would be better to use a non-Chromium-based browser like one of the Firefox derivatives. Also Vivaldi is closed source. Still, I do like Vivaldi.
Of course ff over everything. Zen browser is nice too. I say Vivaldi because of the chromium/blink rendering engines, Vivaldi has a consistent track record. They haven’t tried to push any crypto down your throat and uBo still functions. They offer a different experience and welcome their community feedback
For those looking for alternatives, there are a number Firefox forks such as Mullvad and Librewolf and then there’s Chromium and it’s various forks (just avoid Edge and, now, sadly, Brave)
I’ve been trying to move away from Google Chrome for awhile now. Brave was the easiest move for me - it’s super slick and almost exactly like Google Chorme. But they just cannot help themselves from pushing Cryto BS on the startup page like every day - it’s weird. I get they offset advertisements with Crypto, and maybe before The President ran a Crypto rugpull I’d be onboard, but now that the Rich Elites have publicly shown their hand in how they want to use Crypto I just can’t support Brave.
Anyway, I’ve moved to Opera for the time being. If anyone else has suggestions I’m open to hear em, but like, I’m too used to webkit devtools.
Turn it all off and it’s no more in your face. The browser itself functions great when configured according to your needs.
Fuck their CEO though. Focus on the product. It works and consistently ranks as one of the highest orivacy based browser according to the EFF and multiple non profit sources.
At that point, why give the nazi fuck any browser usage? If you don’t trust the source, don’t trust the product.
Like the other person said, use Ungoogled Chromium. I use it on a couple of my devices and it works pretty well.
The thing I’ve started to notice is the further you stray away from a big box products and into micro custom solutions there is always trade-offs. So far as being unique and the hassle that comes with it maintenance.
The more hands off you are big corpo and I agree they aren’t your friends, the more you have to maintain the software or setup personally. Or trust the person or people doing it all day everyday and never let up.
I trust other people mostly, who’s job it is to do these things all day everyday. Having 3rd parties to audit them, than I could be able to, or would want to, consistently maintain software at the standard it requires with the fast changing landscape we have today.
While you gain more features to some degree, you lose in others like security against vulnerabilities and sheer eyes and minds on the code.
Fuck their CEO if he is off the wall. Focus on the goal of privacy and the tool you need, the rest is fluff. Use what you need first then want.
After Firefox changed its TOS a lot of people (including me) have jumped to LibreWolf. It takes FF, removes any parts that phone home, and turns on many privacy options.
It takes a little tweaking to make all websites work correctly. I have it running almost perfectly on windoze. I tried installing on Ubuntu last night but my Linux newbie status held me back.
Regardless of the CEO, Brave is a great product. The crypto stuff is easy to turn off. Fantastic ad blocking, rarely any problems. What is the best alternative with great ad blocking?
I used it as a secondary browser for a while. I didn’t particularly care for it. It’s a shame Edge is spyware corporate garbage because that’s probably the best Chromium browser besides Ungoogled Chromium. I use Librewolf and the CachyOS browser now.
Literally every other browser with uBlock Origin? I am still able to use it even on Chrome.
I have more problems with uBlock Origin breaking the website. Also, it doesn’t block other elements such as cookie walls and news letter signup garbage.
some sites that are anti-adblock will "break: with ublock orgin, and some with adguard or privacy badger, i just turn one of those off and its fine.
I never had any issues using ublock origin.
& Creating own filters in ublock is really easy.
For example i block YouTube shorts using ublock.
Oh my god why haven’t I done this yet
They stole money by adding donation links to content creators pages, then didn’t give the donated money to the creators.
I don’t know what that has to do with my question? I am not defending anything like that
I see how they didn’t answer the question. However, maybe they’re not answering your question but commenting on “Brave is a great product”.
“Jim occasionally bullies his colleagues but he is a good person otherwise”
That doesn’t make it a bad product. I’ve never interacted with any of the crypto or donation stuff. You go into settings, click “no thanks” and are never bothered by any of that ever again. So no, these stories people repeat ad nauseam don’t take away anything from the product. Why don’t other people demand better from the alternatives? If there is one better than Brave at fighting popups and stuff, I’m all for it
You will not be getting an invite to my next BBQ.
It was a comment on your claim that brave is a great product.
Straight up scamming their users is in my opinion not something that is done by “great products”.
Other examples is that Web browser that added their own referral code when users bought stuff on a crypto exchange. Oops, that was brave as well.
Or that one that installed a paid vpn service during an update, without user consent.
You guessed it, brave that as well.
None of that affects the average user. I’m talking about the experience as a browser. No ads, popups, cookie walls, newsletter signup, none of that. Much better than I’ve seen with Firefox plugins. I don’t use their VPN or crypto, it doesn’t affect me at all. Crypto is always shady but it’s a choice to engage with that, and they do make it easy to avoid completely
Not his first time having a public melty over woke themes. What is it about tech CEOs and advanced brain rot? Are they getting too high on their own products?
Maybe he’s jealous he’s not as rich and powerful as his ideological peer Marc Andreessen, who turned proto-Firefox from a university project (Mosaic) into a company (Netscape)…
Andreessen had fuck-all to do with Firefox. He had worked on Netscape Navigator (which changed names several times over the years and is now known as SeaMonkey), but he had left Mozilla years before Firefox, which was a from-scratch rewrite, became a thing.
In that regard – writing shit code that was best thrown out – him and Eich (the fucker who inflicted Javascript on the world) are quite similar.
“You should consider the effects of your words and actions on other people.”
Tech CEOs:
I don’t think it’s complicated. People are in fairly small cliques, and social contagion is real. In the relatively happy case it turns you into a woman or something, in the worst case it turns you into a planet-destroying asshole.
Are they getting too high on their own products?
Yes and they literally have turned the idea of Admin Rights into the Divine Right of Kings.
“I know how to be an admin, thus I should run the fucking world.”
When Cisco helped roll out The Great Firewall of China, they made great pains to explain that all they were actually doing was setting up the hardware and software to do what they were already designed to do. Computers and computer networks were never designed to be democratic in nature at all. Now that computers run the world, these jabronis think they deserve to be the Kings of it all.
these jabronis think they deserve to be the Kings of it all.
And are perfectly willing and sometimes even capable to burn the world down for the position
“Better to be king of the ash pile than have to listen to Tom in accounting talk about his goddamned shitheap of a boat again on Monday.”
Engineer Syndrome. You get mildly good enough at writing Javascript to sell a product and then assume that means you can fix all of society’s problems
The irony in this statement is deafening.
Brave has always seemed shady to me. I mean it has built in crypto spam.
Good thing I quit brave a few years ago when they did that Crypto shit.
Of course they did…
Is there a good mobile browser that…
- Supports adblock?
- Doesn’t have as many rendering issues as Firefox on mobile sites?
I know the latter isn’t Firefox’s fault, but it still impacts the end user.
While it’s a Firefox fork, Ironfox works great for me.
for mobile, but for desktop theres like zen,floorp, “librefox, maybe”,etc. they all still depend on mozilla to survive though.
Firefox + ublock origin + android is the best browsing experience on mobile.
Cromite on Android checks both those boxes. Ad blocking isn’t great, but the developer isn’t Brave.
Firefox + uBlock Origin might be better if you haven’t tried that specific extension before. It works more than okay for me, but I realize YMMV and that’s especially true for non-flagships
To expand on your second point in case anyone isn’t sure what you mean:
Different browsers render webpages slightly differently, because they use different “engines”. The most popular browsers are Chrome or Edge, both of these which use the Blink engine, whereas Firefox uses a different engine called Gecko.
Web developers want their websites to work for most people, so they develop websites that are optimized to run in Blink, which means they sometimes don’t look as intended on Gecko (Firefox). It’s not Firefox’s fault that developers are doing this – of course developers want to reach the most users possible. There’s nothing wrong with Gecko, either – if it were more popular, then developers would build sites for it instead of for Blink. But, this issue of sites breaking can sometimes turn people off.
(Conversely, I develop for Firefox first, so sometimes webpages I make don’t render properly in Chrome/Edge. That’s not ideal, but I don’t care much. I think Gecko is the better + more consistent engine, and I’m not interested in chasing mass appeal.)
Ever since I switched to GrapheneOS, Vanadium has been working well. Never had a problem with Firefox + ublock, or Librewolf (except with a corporate intranet webapp that specifically required users to use Chrome).
Can’t say I experienced rendering issues with ff mobile
Set your render scale to 50%
So you can get good old desktop pages 🥰
Oh that queer hating fuck is still around?
Most of them are.
Someone’s been munching Elon’s Special K for breakfast. New marketing tagline just dropped tho:
Brave browser, because you’d have to be brave to use a browser built by a Nazi
and downing dom perrignon for breakfast lunc and dinner.
How about just:
Brave: We’re not!
