• Nikkii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 years ago

    An abusive partner accusing the other of cheating is very often a projection of the fact they themselves had been cheating. Since they know they would cheat, and were/are, they either assume the other person is the same way, or simply don’t want to draw attention to their affair. It’s an awful thing.

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    Really applies to most things. I’m not a dude, trans woman, but I’ve gotten sexually harassed a lot both pre and post transition and the response I got pre and post transition is night and day. Pretransition people treated me like I was crazy for feeling unsafe and like I was supposed to enjoy it.
    Honestly, men should be allowed to feel unsafe around women, or really allowed to feel unsafe in general, and be taken seriously for it.

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    I was once seeing a girl for a couple weeks that FUCKING ROOFIED MY DRINK so she could look through my phone while I was lying there watching her unable to move. It was absolutely fucked.

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        I’m married now, and this was over a decade ago. As soon as I was able to function again I kicked her out of my house and never spoke to her again.

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          From « a couple weeks ago », to « I’m married now » oh boy, that escalated quickly but then I saw the decades word! Good for you you were able to ditch this abuser.

          Edit: ha, I misread the whole thing, my bad

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      2 years ago

      Good thing you managed to stay conscious, holy shit!
      Didn’t even know that was possible

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        Depends on the type of drug, not all date rapes do the same thing. I think this one was GHB but I don’t actually know.

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        I’m not either of those things. But I’m a pretty tall muscular man so my body weight probably helped.

        • Cryptagionismisogynist@lemmy.worldBanned
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          I have both, plus a few other weird genes with things like how I process alcohol, and I survived a couple of roofie attempts myself. Anesthesia doesn’t work well on me either. They tend to look surprised when I’m fine after their doses lol.

          I think though, that we should let everyone try those drugs so they know what it feels like. Part of why I didn’t realize I had been drugged, imo, was that I didn’t know what those other drugs felt like and I assumed it was the alcohol. Even though I thought it was weird I was responding to alcohol like that. Now, I immediately recognize the feeling versus alcohol. I wish I had just tried a mild dose previously in a safe setting because it would have helped me escape sooner the first time. What do you think about a program like that being available to the public? I think it could especially help college aged people.

  • Cadenza@lemmy.world
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    Al…right. Let’s do a little sanity check and let’s see how up or downvoted is gets.

    1. It is absolutely true that violence against women is structurally endemic in our societies and they represent a large majority of domestic violence
    2. It is also absolutely true that domestic violence against men is clearly under-reported, to an unknown but significant extant
    3. It is absolutely true that abuse is abuse

    Those assertions do not contradict each other.

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    My wife once hit me in front of my kids because she didn’t like my pointing out a double standard in how she was treating them. The one she was favoring recently started hitting the other one in a similar manner–basically just to silence her when she said something he didn’t like–and when I pointed out the similarity to my wife’s actions and suggested he had learned it from her she got mad and claimed that rather than hitting me she had “hit my hand away” which is a lie and she knows it. It is 100% classic spousal abuse and gaslighting, and yet due to the sheer size difference between us–I’m a foot taller–I feel ridiculous calling it that, and don’t want to find out what else my son learns is OK from his mom if I’m not around, so here I am still married to her, mostly trying to forget the abuse when it’s not actively happening. She’s been abusive, but I’m not really in any physical danger, so staying seems like the rational option in my situation… I imagine that’s relatively common among men.

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      Hey man, I don’t know your situation and all the details, but it’s not at all ridiculous to call it spousal abuse or gaslighting. That’s fucking dark, and that your son is picking up on it is darker. Your other kid likely isn’t blind to it either, especially since she’s started receiving that sort of treatment and being treated as the scapegoat. That sort of situation leaves deep scars on both spouse (you) and children. You don’t have to be in physical danger (though abuse often escalates) to be in danger. Damage from abuse lasts a lifetime.

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        How? By refusing to accept that female on male abuse is a thing. Go find a mainstream leftist place and bring it up. See what happens

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          That’s truly a joke.

          It is my current understanding, from various experiences - and I want to state that I publicly engage with men and women who’ve had violent experiences in various ways on a regular basis - that men are FAR more likely to be supported when facing domestic violence by the left, the very same woke/feminist left.

          The right? They don’t give a flying f*ck. As always. The incels and their variants? They don’t care. They’re in a political crusade against social justice.

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    I have been abused by both my mom and my partners. They took advantage of my insecurities, because of their insecurities. No one ever acknowledged it until recently. I have no trust in ever getting a relationship with someone who treats me equally. According to my therapists, I responded by turning into myself instead of developing a personality disorder. Apparently I’m too sweet.

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      2 years ago

      I actually spoke with some who said talking about problems specific to men, is somehow anti feminist, because it puts men into a victim role.

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    This reminds me of the Heard v Depp case, on the two X chromosomes subreddit there was this long ass comment from someone who experienced abuse and said she wasn’t the “perfect victim” because she fought back and hurt her abuser back and how because of this it was harder to get away from her abuser.

    And when I asked how does she know that in Heard v Depp case it isn’t Depp who is the imperfect victim? Because he had multiple partners testifying to his character of being a kind man etc, while Heard had the opposite (AFAIK).

    All I got was silence and downvotes.