So. What Am I getting banned?
Imagine this, but with email.
This meme could have been an email!
This just hit me.
How long until governments create email accounts or digital identities (I mean they already have the latter). Then they force social media platforms (who n turn force users) to use/link that as age verification and content blocking.
Hell back when I was banging it didn’t matter, but they did ask, so we thought it did matter and we all lied. I think my ol’ AIM acct thinks I’m like 85 now.
According to my google account I’m 55 years old.
No one under 18 years of age or under the regulated minimum age defined by your local law (whichever is higher), is allowed to use or access the website.
https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/#introduction
Curious choice
There’s probably some law that require it.
It’s legal boilerplate.
Not really sure how that works with federation. You’re not “using” lemmy.world, you’re using lemm.ee, which has a copy of content from lemmy.world.
I think you’ve pretty much nailed it. KFC can’t ban you from buying a Burguer King that McDonalds is secondhand selling.
I’m still not entirely sure where each individual parcel of data is stored.
My account is on sh.itjust.works; the URL for the page I’m viewing this in is a sh.itjust.works address, this post and comment thread are from lemmy.world. When I hit reply in a few minutes my time, this comment will be sent to sh.itjust.works. Does it get stored there, or does it get forwarded to lemmy.world and stored there? If sh.itjust.works shuts down, does this comment disappear with it?
Possibly depending on how that works, viewing one lemmy instance’s content from another may not be “using that instance” but posting or commenting might be.
Does it get stored there, or does it get forwarded to lemmy.world and stored there? If sh.itjust.works shuts down, does this comment disappear with it?
Your own content gets stored on your own instances and every instance it’s federated with. It’s not sh.itjust.works or lemmy.world, it’s both of them.
Consequences for my actions?!
If an admin put limitations to who can or can’t belong and/or interact with their server, it’s their responsibility to whitelist and blacklist accordingly.
Someone needs to ban this MINOR right now before I call the cyber police. 😤
This particular thread is hosted on lemmy.world and you must be 18+ to access it.
Nah, admins only care about their own instance. So a LW admin would only care about underage LW users.
Admins don’t have the time to moderate for other instances. I’m already busy enough with dbzer0, lemm.ee’s business is theirs. (as long as they’re not posting CSAM or scams)
edit: I should mention that you still have to follow the COCs of instances, but most of them can be boiled down to: Don’t be a huge dick, and don’t be racist/anything-phobic.
And despite how simple it is people still find new and interesting ways to be bigoted. It’s impressive really
As long as all those people getting banned were actually for those reasons…
Most of the time admins and mods just ban you because they don’t like you even though that’s not a rule.
What makes you think it’s most of the time?
Because admins and mods on Lemmy are known for doing this.
For .world everyone gets banned for “rule 2”, in .blahaj it’s “gatekeeping”
if you’re speaking from experience, find the modlog and post to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
I did, thread was brigaded by blahaj users who get dopamine from attaking lgbtq people who question literally anything.
lemm.ee allow 16+ year old users.
Should be fine, then. You’re on .ee not .world, they’re not going to vet your account for age ;)
edit: I should mention that you still have to follow the COCs of instances, but most of them can be boiled down to: Don’t be a huge dick, and don’t be racist/anything-phobic.
Don’t be a huge dick, and don’t be racist/anything-phobic.
I leaved Reddit because of this. And I choose Lemmy over other Social Media app to ignore this. I can safely say I am not. I don’t even joke about it like some edgy teenager thinking saying N-Word is fucking cool or saying Hitler was a good person and everyone should do it too. Or Hating LGBTQ person.
You’re a cool poster
I believe the most an admin can do is block you from their own instance (e.g. lemmy.world banning you from lemmy.world communities), they don’t own your account on lemm.ee so they can’t ban your account from accessing the comms they don’t control, and lemm.ee has no reason to ban you.
Tagging @fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Yep, i have no power outside my instance. However sag has been banned by the LW admins :(
There’s a YPTB post about it, you can chime in. It’s outrageous honestly, sag is a very good poster/user, maybe they can be pressured into reversing the ban.
Ah thanks.
YPTB
What’s this?ah just remembered, /c/ YePowerTrippinBastards
Yeah, I’m assuming this is in place to comply with the stupid UK age verification laws anyway. They don’t want to enforce an age restriction, but they’re forced to for their users. They don’t care about users on other instances. That’s not their problem.
Are you really surprised about being banned after admitting to breaking the rules and then expressing intent to circumvent a ban?
young padawan, the first lesson you ever learn on the internet is never admit your age until it no longer matters
I cannot stress this strongly enough: You have not been “using Lemmy” for 1.5 years now. “Lemmy” isn’t a service the same way Reddit is, it’s a web engine, like Joomla, or like phpBB.
You’ve been using lemm.ee for 1.5 years.
Nobody wants to hear this, but there’s no “Lemmy”. This emergent network of social media sites isn’t a coherent thing, and it’s not a stable concept. The attempts to make this look like a singular space are to the ultimate detriment of the network, because implicitly lying to end users about what they’re doing informs how they behave.
You’ve been using lemm.ee. Lemm.ee has copies of content on other websites, but those websites have different rules, and different expectations than lemm.ee. You don’t get to pretend otherwise because of where you’re reading the content, and there is no guarantee that you will have further access to content from any other website than lemm.ee.
This is a reality that people simply do not want to face, for some reason. Everyone wants to imagine that federation is just centralized social media with some voodoo in the background, but it is a fundamentally different paradigm, and this is the wild fucking west.
You’re going to get your toes stepped on if you treat it like something it’s not.
When people say they are sending emails, do you also ask them which email provider they use to correct them?
If you email someone on a different mail service and your message breaks the ToS of their mail service then you shouldn’t be surprised if your email address gets blacklisted.
Different providers have different spamfilters, different rules regarding html mails, attachment file size, use of tls, policies regarding exspired certificates, and might have different log in procedures, so yes, if there are problems the question which providers are involved.
Why would you type all this out? What a waste of your time yapping about nothing. It’s Lemmy, for better or worse
they have been using the lemmy software.
You realize the software most of us here use is literally called Lemmy, right?
No, lemm.ee and Lemmy.world are using the Lemmy software. You are using a web browser or a mobile app which is decidedly not Lemmy
Wow, you’re that kind of troll. Okay, enjoy your day and happy trolling!
I’m not trying to be a troll. I’m not even trying to be pedantic. I just agree with the guy a couple comments up that we should refer to the thread based fediverse as “Lemmy”. There is piefed, mbin, and even the microblog based AP platforms can ingest content from threadiverse.
If we refer to the threadiverse as just “Lemmy” then the network is going to be known as a place for tech obsessed socialists rather than being part of the wider AP network
Sure, the Fediverse is not Lemmy. But I’m using Lemmy. I also use Mastodon. Both are vastly different experiences despite being based on the same protocol.
Let me check my email
YoU mEAn YouR gMaiL.COm??
Why is Kit on instance X gatekeeping a user in instance Y from accessing a community on instance Z?
Gives me vibes of old man yelling at kids to stop having fun.
I’m calling the police.
Easy there, Karen.
Why would you ever admit your age online?
Eh, I don’t really see an issue with it at my age, but I guess for younger people it could be bad. I’m in my 40s now, but aside from producing some data to be mined, I don’t see how people knowing that hurts me.
What Klient allows you to create tags for users?
This looks like Voyager
but it might be an instance setting.
Edit: it is an experimental setting in voyager.
Absolutely accurate tag
Voyager
Thunder also allows user tags. Highly recommend it.
I’m not 23. Nobody likes you when you’re 23.
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What’s my age, again?
I like how knowing all these lyrics will convince people that all of you are older than 23.
It is 26 years old. That is a quarter of a century. Just like a 1975 song was called an “oldie” in 2000, it’s fair to call this an oldie now.
Edit: “What’s my age again” is closer to ABBA’s “Waterloo” than it is to today.
Oh no
23yr old women are quite popular.
Quite
They only want you when you’re 17, when you’re 21 you’re no fun.
And you still act like you’re in freshman year
I’m as old as the max age for Legos
I’ve been celebrating the anniversary of my 40th birthday for years now…
I’m 92.
If 16 is too young for Lemmy, 92 is unfortunately too old.
I’m sorry, but if you can’t use it during the first 17 years of your life, you shouldn’t be allowed to use it during the last 17 years either!!!11 Rules are rules…
Oh, ok. I’ll be sure to stop using when I’m 134 years old. Just to rule out the last 17 years.
Hi 92, nice to meet you. How old ya
I got that guy tagged as a mushroom, beware.
Uh oh!
is this like traveling to another country where the drinking age is lower
No, it’s like a 19 year old being on a conference call with Americans having a beer and Americans telling him he can’t because in America the law is 21
Kit comes across like a dickhead from that screenshot.
An arrogant teenager?!?
I don’t know them to judge them. I can only judge the interaction and there’s not even context for that. They could be a perfectly nice adult.
Oh, it’s “Kit”, not “kid”.
Dismiss my comment.
Haha, no worries. It’s an easy mistake to make.
