In most countries, if you’re in a situation that needs you to shoot a gun, you generally need to have grounds to use lethal force. If you are, where you shoot doesn’t make a lot of difference. There are arteries in your leg, that if hit, does not bode well for you.

Also, if you are in a lethal force situation (e.g. someone coming at you with a weapon) you want to aim centre mass to increase your likelihood of hitting. Shooting down at that angle (towards to the leg) also means the round could ricochet and hit someone other than the target. The “just shoot them in the leg” is very much movie/gaming logic.

All situations that don’t risk imminent loss of life should be dealt with via taser where applicable though, so agreed on that.

Quick, ditch the canals.

Yeah my questions are three-fold.

1. Why is this weirdo obsessed with canals?
2. What is even the point, just because a body is retrieved from canals doesn’t mean they died in there?
3. Even if they (or some of them) died in the canal, is that outside the realm of possibility? People who can’t swim can drown in surprisingly shallow water, being pushed from even a couple of metres could stun some people leading them to drown. I.e. not outside the realm of possibility.

Like what’s the point here? Of all the convoluted of conspiracies.

Even assuming they would do this, they would still have to wait for them to arrive, which presumably would prolong the dogs suffering. I’ve not heard of vets doing euthanasia in the street personally either.

Does someone else wanna jump in with questions for the one person in this thread having the audacity to suggest “hey maybe the cops didn’t go into this situation all ‘ay fuck it let’s just blast this dog and get back for smoko’”.

For you then, I’ll go with all cops are bastards, if that makes you happy

For me? You will? Thanks so much, that’s what I wanted to do, change opinions rather than provide my own. Such a rebel.

I’m not sure where you get sexual gratification from in my comment

Nah I’m referring to the parent comment, not what you’ve said. Since my comment is remarking in general.

That’s what I’ll base my view on. Fuck your faux moral outrage.

If seeing the world in black and white is easier for you, you do you. Not sure what the second sentence is about. Probably further misinterpreting general criticisms in my comment as comments about you personally.

No one said anything about moving the animal across town. Do you think that euthanasia requires some special equipment that’s somehow not portable?

While I accept the point about portability, I’ve just never seen or heard of vets performing these sort of tasks in the street, the time spent suffering is still an issue while you track down a vet willing to do it, and wait for them to travel regardless.

I’m really sorry but I just don’t really give the police the benefit of the doubt anymore.

Yes, this was apparent by your first comment assuming literally the worst of the police intentions and their involvement in subsequent comments. The way you phrase the impact also wasn’t as a “hypothetical”. Either way we’ve probably fleshed out this particular online conversation sufficiently. Have good one.

I didn’t know what that number refers to but after googling, yeah checks out. Strangers in general aren’t “our” friends but a news article fishing for engagement off a headline when it appears the cops did what they had to in a shitty situation, is what it is.

I get people who consume a lot of US media on and offline default into the ACAB stance but they should just say that, rather than hiding behind faux morale outrage while implying the police did this for sexual gratification. That’s not to say the police here don’t have their shitty history (or current day if you’re NT/NSW pol) but I personally find it to be a shitty, simplistic view for a largely thankless job. I envy people who’ve lived lives that they’ve never had to call on the police. Must be nice.

What’s the alternative here? Just say “aight good luck with that” and bounce to leave the girl with her dying dog? They’re the ones that injured the dog and if the dog had no adult owner nearby they probably made a call that it’s more humane to euthanise it and ends its suffering. As difficult as this would have been for the kid, I can assure you being left with her mangled dog to die a slow agonising death would have been far more traumatic.

I think you and others are conflating two separate things. The above is listed as reason why it’s not just as simple as “just shoot it once, in the right spot”, aka its easier said than done and likely nerves about the surroundings had an impact.

Euthanasia at the scene is likely the more humane option and still quicker than moving an animal that’s been run over across town so it can die a slower, more painful death. Whether she actually saw and her having PTSD is something you’ve just determined to suit your view. Though I guess I shouldn’t expect good faith from someone who started the conversation implying the cops shot this dog for some sort of sexual gratification.

I can’t imagine city cops go to work expecting to shoot a dog, so probably not something they’re well versed in. At least not in this country.

I agree, ideally it shouldn’t, but can’t say I’ve had to make that shot after just having run over someone’s pet, in front of a street full of upset people who you know are recording and likely going to put it up on social media.

Dogs also wag their tails when they’re excited or distressed, you’ll see them wag their tails when fighting too. A dog that’s just been hit by a car isn’t going to be lying “otherwise motionless” on its side to chill out, it very likely had traumatic spinal injuries.

Police in my former home down did this when a kangaroo that blundered into town and was struck by car outside our school. Similar thing happened and the local news saw it as a similar engagement opportunity.

It might be my childhood years in rural areas desensitised me but I think this was likely the more humane option. Good luck transporting an animal with traumatic injuries across town to a vet without causing it considerably more stress and agony.

sharing profit with people that actually produce the products you sell

opening Pandora’s box

Uh huh, if you say so.

Guess China isn’t a fan when it isn’t them doing it huh?

Glad someone finally said it. Reading between the lines bro is begging for cash to pay his AI services subs for his AI gf. He needs a counsellor before he ends up bloke n+1 in an AI related news article.

Found it: OP get help before you end up like this guy. You already sound like you have quite a lot in common.

Probably post decomposing human corpses under nsfw or something at least.

sigh With a license fee increment as well, I suppose.

Yeah and it doesn’t help when the new (as of ~2 years ago) dev ops lead is an “AI first” type. I get all that but like 4 years in, tell us to get fucked “your fields are remaining forever collapsed”. 8 god damn years the initial confluence ticket was open.

I came across it while setting up a wiki page last night, there were people who had been monitoring it for years. Some real “abandon hope all ye who enter” type shit.

Bro why is Atlassian actually so shit? Two of their open facing tickets I came across last night. One for them to fix table rendering in the description field of tickets and the other to enable the option for collapsable fields in Confluence to be expanded by default.

Both were the better portion of a decade old and both with 1-2 year old updates saying “sorry we’ve taken so long to provide an update on this request”. The confluence one was closed without word and move to another ticket, reducing the votes/views and therefore dev priority. Such basic functionality left unaddressed for decades. Bizzare-o world with some of these tech companies I swear.

How very American of you.

A very normal, and rational series of sentences. Maybe you could call the crying teenagers you’re standing over in your fantasy “pussy” after you “bitchslap” them. Right before you beat into them the idea that violence is bad too, of course.