They’re contrarians no matter what.

It’s an analogy to the government asking for backdoors into phones and such

That’s quite the assumption

On my old 2006, you can nudge the signal arm part way (like where you would hold it to signal if you want it to go off after you release it) also by going to that position in the direction you’re already signaling. You don’t have to go past the bump and you can do it in either direction.

Well, it still gets dark at the same time.

Some will move back, but I agree. I bet most people will stay. Once you have set up your life somewhere, uprooting again is daunting.

I see what you’re getting at. We should find a way to make people in this situation whole after forcing the sale of their positions when they enter the trust

I see what you’re getting at. We should figure out how to make someone asked to do that whole for their taxes owed as a result of selling. That would be a way to avoid potential conflicts arising

Regardless, his investments are in a blind trust. He hasn’t known what specific companies he is invested in since placing them in the trust. All he knows is what the overall performance of his investments is. That’s it.

There is a lot of misinformation and half information being thrown around about how blind trusts work, but the premise is as simple as that.

Carney’s assets are in. Blind trust. He has zero visibility into what investments he holds. All he knows is the overall performance of the total.

Edit: after researching it, Carney’s stock options were included in the blind trust. This confirms he does not know what happens with them.

Regardless, options [to purchase stock] aren’t worth anything until they vest and are exercised by purchasing them. Unvested stock options are a promise by the company to allow the individual to purchase the options at a set rate once they vest. That’s it. They hold no immediate value. Generally breaking ties with a company means that your unvested options and RSUs are forfeit.

No, someone who understands how blind trusts work would believe it. You’re free to be a crazy conspiracy theorist, but own it.

No - Carney knows exactly what his investments were when they entered the blind trust. He does not know what they are now.

More likely, they instigated hateful rhetoric and were called out on it. They didn’t understand that they were being called out for their hateful views and words so it’s easier to say, “they yelled at me because I’m a white cis man” when the truth would force introspection

Excellent point! We should do this to all our major industries

It’s vendor lockin on a country wide scale, from a hostile vendor.

The amount of testosterone someone has naturally can vary wildly and has a huge impact on ability to build and maintain muscle. I naturally am on the low end for males and have lifted weights for 20 years. About 10 years ago I got a prescription for TRT and am now measuring on the high end of the natural scale. Immediately after getting the prescription my ability to lift and put on muscle was night and day. The difference in the amount of effort I need to put in to maintain muscle is unbelievable.

Point being, it’s disingenuous to say that any natural male bodybuilder just needs to lift more, because the playing field isn’t particularly even to begin with, even for naturally born males. Someone who was born a female and has transitioned will be supplementing testosterone, and likely that results in their levels being on the high end of natural as my story is not abnormal.

We are going in circles now, but keep in mind that we are talking about unvested stocks. In my opinion the only way to have an equitable solution is to find a way of transferring the current market value of the unvested stocks into Carney’s blind trust. I can’t think of how to do this in a way that I would be happy as a taxpayer and he would be happy as a (former) shareholder, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a solution.

The complexity of the problem is one of the reasons why I don’t feel it is worth solving immediately.

Dude that’s crazy. As I said I didn’t vote for the guy but be realistic here. Asking someone to pay money to become PM is not a good precedent. Especially when we are talking about one of the world’s most prominent economists, taking a position like you have just makes you seem like you hate the person and nothing will make you happy.

What solution would you suggest?