June/Offred had a job in the handmaids tale…

Well its worked for Melania all these years…

But from where will we get the oil!?! 😥

I think you’re missing the point. All I was saying is that both Signal and Graphene are both nonprofits and both seem to be doing okay with their donations business model.

And donations aren’t just a euro here and there from users. Proton is rumoured to be one of Graphene’s supporters.

What, like salaries?

https://grapheneos.org/hiring

Asking for someones email when they ask for your whatsapp is weird.

Yes it is. But that’s not what I was suggesting.

being able to communicate with friends and family

I made the switch 6 months ago and can communicate just fine. Friends and family.

more important than software evangelizing

Its not evangelising, I’ve just chosen not to use WhatsApp, FB messenger etc. If other people want to surrender their personal data to Meta have at it.

Even if they charged 1.99 they’d be making a decent cut for future investment (they are a nonprofit).

GrapheneOS lives on donations too. Its definately possible.

SMS has issues if youre traveling a lot or want to send large files

Okay email?

Im not going to ask someone I just met to install a new app

They can only say no. And if they do, their loss.

I’ve never had this problem. If they don’t want to download Signal and can’t cope with basic SMS then tough luck.

I’d probably still use it if I had to pay for it

I’d forgotten about this!!

Google play

GrapheneOS

Well i suppose both could be considered a phenomenal waste of spunk.

Yeah but its when they put it in their mouth, thats where I draw the line.

Boobs and a vagina probably, otherwise I’m there!

All I can focus on is the fact that BBQ is right up against the side of the house…

So dumbing it down then? If privacy and security is built into your product and you’re not using people’s data for nefarious purposes its very easy to comply with.

Hmm I dunno. Think of who you could be with evidence of that. I could be the next huak tuah girl!