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I try to contribute to things getting better, with sourced information, OC and polite rational skepticism.
Disagreeing with a point ≠ supporting the opposite side, I support rationality.
Let’s discuss to make things better sustainably.
Always happy to question our beliefs.

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  • You said this:

    Arguing without the understanding that they have alternatives facts is wrong

    I’m asking you why would you think that is not already integrated in my way, since I think it is implied by what I explained.

    Honestly, it makes me wonder if you’ve actually interacted with these sorts.

    Not the MAGA people since I don’t live in the USA, but French conservatives, mostly through the diversity of background that exists in sports activities.

    The best approach that I’ve found is to beat them to the punch of saying things. Basically, make points before they can say stipid shit, they’re very easily manipulated if they haven’t already taken a stance in the conversation

    I think this could work, but it limits the number of opportunities quite a lot. I see no reason to not try both.



  • Why would you think it’s without knowing they got intoxicated by fake news?
    That’s the point, you think they have wrong ideas, so you push them gently to increase the chance that they will question them by themselves.
    If that’s a poor way to do it, maybe you have a better way, what is it?







  • I don’t think anyone slightly left will ever be happy with a Pope’s social policies because they are inevitably decades or centuries late to adjust to society. Francis started to open on welcoming homosexuals in the church, but he still said it’s a sin because any sex outside of mariage is a sin, and gay mariage is not allowed by the church.
    Maybe Leo will make some new timid move like “maybe it’s not a sin after all, gotta think about it” but nothing revolutionary will happen.
    Progressists as defined on Lemmy will never be elected pope.