May as well be cuz it ain’t happening
I wish Canada would annex the U.S. I want dat universal healthcare 😌
The compromise is adding to proper pronunciation of the letter Z to the kindergarten curriculum, and highschool gets French courses.
“I’ll be aboot time you say zed correctly!”
They’ll also need to learn to spell the word ‘that’ without using a d
I’m okay with this. I will make this sacrifice. 😔
Yes he is. It’s the sleight of hand you’re supposed to be watching while the other one is in your pocket looking for everything you’ve got.
It’s trolling til it’s not. He plants seeds and they fester in our angry wounds and suddenly it becomes the cure.
And we aren’t trolling when we say you’ll sign your own death warrant, as a nation, and as a person.
the richest nation on earth with a military budget larger than the domestic budget of dozens of countries combined, couldnt stomach a fight against dirt poor cavemen, armed with cold war and WW2 relics, on the other side of the world, who were so culturally alien to them, they might as well have been from mars. And you’re going to pick a fight with people who all they have to do is wear a Bruins hat and they pass for an American?
Ask the Russians how the occupation of their Ukrainian cousins territory has worked out. If you could speak to the dead that is. Those who are still alive, live looking over their shoulder for the rest of their lives.
I sure as hell wouldn’t want the job of securing logistics in the northern woods with a bunch of angry Canucks running around.
We wouldn’t even have to fight that hard, just deny resources. February would whittle down the numbers quite nicely.
couldnt stomach a fight against dirt poor cavemen
And yet, you think you haven’t succumbed to American brainrot.
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It just sounds weird to call your enemies cavemen honestly. I know they’re the fucking Taliban and stuff, but there’s something to it that is hard to explain. If we’d be talking about Sam Losco on the other hand, that’d be a different story as that guy is a literal caveman.
A lot of them were literally living in caves, so…
Also I think we can relax the PC rules a bit when we’re saying someone that thinks women are property is a caveman.
The Russian occupation is actually turning out more or less fine, the Russian government is better at finding and eliminating organized dissent than at pretty much anything else. They’ve been having some trouble against the regular army however
Shit randomly getting blown up from IEDs, Drones and Grenade attacks, people being killed on the street, none of that is fine.
Weird, I seem to recall there being some very big explosions happening in Russia like all of the time.
I guess Russia is very good at rooting out organized dissent and preventing commando operations, just very bad at enforcing no smoking rules around explosives?
What makes you think those are commando infantry operations by locals rather than airstrikes from ukraine
What makes you think it makes a difference? Targets in Russia are blowing up either way.
Also some of the big booms in Russia happened far enough away from Ukraine that it’s unlikely a drone strike. I suppose they still could be, but the drone operator would need to be inside Russia to make that happen.
if they were local ops, they’d be happening more or less uniformly all over russia instead of which is what we’re actually seeing, which is that they’re happening near the ukrainian border and steadily moving further out as ukr drone tech improves
We’re taking care of their military. We’re taking care of every aspect of their lives, and we don’t need them to make cars for us,” Trump told Time. “In fact, we don’t want them to make cars for us. We want to make our own cars. We don’t need their lumber. We don’t need their energy. We don’t need anything from Canada. And I say the only way this thing really works is for Canada to become a state.
Then stop importing and we’ll see how long before it’s a problem for the people.
He’s completely delusional. We fought in US wars cause the US needed OUR military. Canada has never asked the US to defend us. Fuck Trump, Fuck MAGA. Fuck the tens of millions of HitlerPig sycophants.
China is walking this dumbass like a dog. How about we don’t tie ourselves to this sinking ship.
Russia is a dying country, and they’re trying to graft the Ukrainian Population onto itself to buy itself another generation
America is also probably a dying country, for different reasons, not population but resource. and they’re trying to graft whatever resources they dont have in abundance , so they can survive another generation or two and shut themselves off from the world whilst they tear themselves apart domestically.
ohno he really uttered the word “trolling” thats it its over humanity is done :cry:
He’s so eloquent when he speaks, like listening to a butterfly’s wings wafting over a boiling toilet
It’s not him trolling us, it’s his dementia trolling us. Or maybe his plain old stupidity. Honestly it’s hard to tell at this point.
MAGA: “Haha, he really triggered the libtards!!!”
Yep. It’s no longer about which candidate you like the most. It’s about which candidate will make the people you hate the most furious.
Speaking as a Canadian… Yes, we know.
You guys had the most trustworthy, most reliable ally ever. The faith and trust between Canada and the US was legendary.
That’s gone now. It’ll be a century or more before you can ever rebuild that trust.
And you threw it away for this drooling moron to play tinpot dictator.
Was it worth it?
Can some of us, uh, join you though?
Honestly I’ve been worrying for years that the only way the US is going to resolve this division and hostility within their country is by breaking up, possibly largely along red state/blue state lines, and hopefully not triggering a violent (or god forbid nuclear) civil war in the process.
But I can say as a Canadian, if it does come to that, and you guys can’t take back your country (which I really think you can, once you start to accept what is happening and accept that it’s gonna hurt and you dig your heels in anyway, I don’t think there’s anyone who will be able to take you down, not even Trump and crew), then we would be absolutely happy to quickly rebuild and strengthen our relationship with most of the blue states. And however you end up wanting to arrange yourselves in the end, we’ll work with that. And if you guys genuinely wanted our help, our resources, our logistical support, even our protection (what little we can provide), if things were to start looking like actual civil war, I’m sure we’d absolutely be willing to figure out what sort of arrangement is actually going to work. We’d have to at least initially discuss it as equals and as partners though, I don’t think we’d ask you or coerce you to give up your sovereignty, any more than we’d want you to take ours. But if the intention to join Canada was a popular attitude, I expect we’d be willing to consider it, probably after some cooling-off period though to make sure it’s not just a passing fad. The progressive parts of America are the parts we’ve always loved. If you guys come knocking on our door needing a couch to crash on we’re not going to ask how long you need to stay, we’re just going to go find pillows and blankets.
You moved me to tears, and I’m not even out of bed, yet. Thank you so much for this genuine display of human compassion.
❤️,seriously.
i honestly think that applies to most of the world: pretty much everyone will back the blue states, because the red states are friendless right-wing nut jobs compared to pretty much the entire west… and it’s not like china would come to their “rescue” - they probably dislike them more than the rest of us even!
Most of the world*
*excludes Russia, Costa Rica, Argentina, Hungary, Israel, possibly India, probably Turkey, and any other fascist right wing countries. Sadly also excludes Alberta too.
Same. I don’t honestly know how we recover as a country. Trump isn’t the cause, he’s a symptom. A tumour with a much larger cancerous problem underneath. At no point will the sane (and actual majority of us) roll over and become fascists. But at the same time, I don’t see how the third of the country that has gone full fascist suddenly regains their sanity and joins us.
The USSR’s goal was to divide us, and the Cold War never ended, it just went underground. There is a large part of me that is afraid at this point Balkanization is our future. But how we would we even get there without causing death and destruction?
But regardless of sentiments about losing faith in us (and I don’t blame those that feel that way, they are warranted) I do love you all who recognize that not all of us are the insane ones that make it on TV. We do still value our brothers/sisters/enbys to the north and are proud that we have a friendship unparalleled and the world’s longest undefended border. The world is a often a dark and scary place, but it’s friendships like these that make it worthwhile.
I appreciate you internet stranger.
You’ve put it very well. And as someone that lives in BC, I agree wholeheartedly.
You guys are the best. I’m just south of you in the PNW and want us to always have each other’s backs.
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That’s the American spirit that I, as a Canadian, want to see! It’s your country. Don’t let them take it!
The problem is, the US isn’t actually divided by red/blue areas. It’s divided by urban and rural/suburban. Even red states, the cities are almost all blue. You can’t just break it up like that because they’d have revolutions in the south at least.
There’s an immigration process, go ahead and apply if you want.
the simple truth is that 95% of these people are not able to immigrate, they aren’t wealthy, they aren’t skilled. No country would take them.
Immigration is a tedious process, Its a pipe dream for many. For a time I thought I would Immigrate to the UK when I was dating someone there, years later I realized I didnt have a chance in hell unless we were married. that was the only path that was available to me.
Well, if anyone wants to marry a Canadian, I’m single.
Did I just hear your inbox explode? Let me hi check your profile rq before I apply!
As a Millennial whose teen years were filled with adults pushing me to gO To cOLleGe constantly, I’m pretty pissed. I could make and fill a Bingo card of bullshit reasons people repeated ad nauseum, yet in retrospect there is one critical reason that nobody mentioned - that if you want to emigrate, other countries only want you if you’re “educated.” (Or “skilled.”)
I can’t imagine most adults I knew were even aware of the requirements for becoming a citizen in another country. I had dreams of moving to Canada at that age, so if somebody had known, it would’ve been a very convincing argument on me. For those that don’t know - the system is set up to prevent most people from going anywhere, but having a specialized degree makes you desirable internationally. It’s one of the few ways that ordinary (read: non-wealthy) people have that allows them to move to a new country.
I assume certain short-term things will get better with anyone less crazy than Trump, but I agree the US is no longer reliable for anything long-term, and no other country should deal with us on the assumption that we’ll give up certain short-term advantages for a long term stability within our sphere of influence. It’s not even that the US was “good” (though I imagine the next hegemonic power could easily be worse), but across administrations, the US was generally intelligent about how to leverage its influence but retain enough goodwill to continue to do so indefinitely.
This administration is showing the world how poorly codified and vulnerable the US democracy is.
Yup. I joked that we’re still on Constitutional Republic version 2.27, and not only is the next point release long overdue, but we should really have upgraded to version 3 or 4 by now.
Woah, we only just finally left the beta and are on constitution republic 1.27. The articles of confederation is more of an alpha test that was not good and tried the constitutions and while it worked, it never left the beta stage as , it just used spaghetti code that led to the civil war, which people wanted to upgrade to the first release won and started the reconstruction era, and caused the final release of 1.15. The south downgraded it back to beta after using violence to restrict people rights and remake the antebellum south under beta 15.01. We finally left after the civil rights movement forced them to put it at 1.25, with no restrictions on people rights. Though we need to not upgrade yet as someone is trying to install banana republic instead.
We learned that last time Trump was president that most of our country has been run on gentlemen’s agreements. It was news to a lot of us as well.
I think a huge part of the problem is that it’s run on Gentlemen’s agreements but we pretend it’s not. The UK’s “Constitution” is a hodgepodge of laws and court cases and things that probably closer to treaties than anything else. It’s a mess, but they know it’s a mess so there’s a very real sense that the gentlemen’s agreements are important and as real as anything else.
In America, we worship our Constitution like a holy text, but so many of our institutional controls depend on Judicial Review (which is not technically mentioned in the constitution), on following along with the presumed intent, and on fudging around the edges when it’s obvious the machinery of the state would grind to a halt if we had to amend it every time a novel situation arose. Yet, nevertheless, we have an entire school of thought built around the idea of shallow surface readings. The “originalists,” not to put too fine a point on it, are fucking idiots.
If you get the idea that the only important thing is the blackletter text agreed to by a gaggle of 18th century provincials, many of whom were intelligent and well-intentioned, but all of whom were elites and either slave-owners or okay with hanging out with slave owners, then you have a recipe for considering stupid shit like presidential immunity or having a speaker of the house who’s not a Congressperson and who can become president despite already serving two full terms, because it doesn’t explicitly say you can’t. It’s childish and dangerous, and their ascendancy in the judicial branch is a travesty.
Sorry… 😞
No. I have zero interest in your apologies. Not you, not any American whose first instinct is to tell us how sorry they are. I’m sure you’re all wonderful people, but we’re well past the point where that matters.
I never, ever, want to hear the word “Sorry” from any of your lips while I’m living with the reality that people I love might die to American bombs and bullets. I am not obligated to assuage your fucking conscience by dignifying your apologies while you all sit around hanging your heads in worthless shame.
We do not want or need your apologies. We want your rage. Get angry. Get out in the streets. Fucking do something.
And when Trump is gone and every last fascist has been hunted down and your government is run like an actual democracy, and your voters have learned how to value and respect friendships with countries outside of your own… Then you can come to us and say sorry.
Was it worth it?
Southerners: “Yes, but we get to abuse brown people again!”
And say the “R-word” apparently
Redneck?
Call his bluff.
Ya’ll are about the size of, and politically left of, California. If ya’ll were a state, the US would look more like Canada than Canada would look like the US.
You’re the last thing that the GOP wants involved in US politics.
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That depends on there still being elections
There will be elections.
Whether we use touch screens or guillotines to cast our ballots is an unanswered question. But there will be elections.
Sure there will be elections. But what do you do when Trump gets 90% of the vote like Putin does?
There are elections and then there are “elections”.
Start putting up billboards reminding the Secret Service how many terms a president is allowed to serve.
Billboards reminding JD Vance that he can finish out up to two years of Trump’s term and remain eligible for two terms of his own.
“Remind” Trump that everyone around him is plotting against him.
Russia had term limits… until Putin just changed the constitution to remove them.
But why would you assume having some other fascist in charge will fix the problem? Trump is old and unhealthy, so there’s a good chance he’ll before the end of his term from natural causes. Sure JD Vance isn’t nearly as popular as Trump, but if elections are rigged and the media is under the control of the President (as things are in Russia), that won’t matter much.
Trump is the symptom, American proclivity towards fascism is the real problem.
Aaaand when will these so called elections happen?
When do you want to cast your vote?
For him and his administration? Yes, it was worth it. Destroying that was the entire point.
I like to idly game this out because it truly reflects how narcissistic and uninformed he is. So, he’s talking about admitting Canada as a single state. Lets assume somehow that happens, even though the Canadians themselves would undoubtedly push for as many states as possible if joining the US were the only option.
You’ve now got a new largest state by both population and area, and one that has ridiculous reserves of resources. It instantly becomes the most important state. It’s also full of millions of people who didn’t want to be Americans, and who’ve had a hundred years of more progressive governance then the US. Congratulations, Republicans, you’ve just skewed the Senate and completely fucked yourself in the House for a generation or more. You’ve also got 8 or 9 million Francophones who weren’t even entirely sure they wanted to be CANADIANS, much less Americans, to say nothing of being Americans in a MAGA world. This is how real troubles begin.
So, in return for dubious “improvements” to the trade deficit, and certain (what?) administrative conveniences (I guess) for a military that already had basically all the access anyone would ever need, as well as a giant buffer territory you’re not politically committed to defending with the same gusto you would your own soil, you completely upset the balance of power in Congress to your own party’s detriment and add a huge population that hates their situation. Brilliant.
Although, I guess if you’re just done with free and fair elections then a lot of these concerns evaporate…
This is how real troubles begin.
Echos of Ireland.
We’d be joined through the Puerto Rico route, as a territory. No representation. The 51 state is just a ruse to get the 17th territory, or whatever the number is.
Yeah, I guess just assuming ill intent and fascism makes it a simpler discussion that’s still perfectly reasonable.
I’m so fucking tired of Americans saying shit like “omg Canada as the 51st state would totally skew our elections Democrat, get owned Trump!”
The reality is, in any scenario where Canada gets annexed by the US, American democracy will not exist anymore by then. Even if there are fake elections, we’d most likely not be allowed to vote (à la Puerto Rico, as you point out).
I do appreciate someone pointing out how utterly enraged us Francophones would be if subjected to US rule.
Doesn’t matter. He wants Canada because it is big on the map and if America had it then America would look bigger on the map and if it was at its biggest when Trump was president that would mean Trump was the best US president ever in every history book for all time. Same thing with Greenland.
I do unironically believe the Mercator projection has influenced how much he talks about Greenland.
You’re not wrong. It looks so much bigger than the 2.1m sq km that it is. In fact, it’s 100k smaller than the Democratic Republic of the Congo. When you look at a Mercator map, Greenland looks comparable to the entire continent of Africa.
In school I remember them teaching us that it had a psychological effect that we think Northern countries are more important than Southern ones because they’re bigger and on top and I am totally 100% on board with that line of thought
I have the incredible, uncontrollable urge to shout, “Gulf of Mexico!” suddenly.
It’s actually useful to note that Canada+USA together (19.8 sq km) is bigger than Russia (17m sq km) by about an India (3m sq km), but still short of the former USSR (22m sq km). But add in Greenland (2.3)? Now you’ve got the biggest country that ever existed.
You’re right, making an America that is the largest country on earth is precisely what his ego is after.
How is election security in Canada? There was fuckery in the last presidential election here, and I don’t doubt they’ll try it in Canada too.
Christopher Tidus just did two hour and a half long podcasts with a guest. He never has guests. The guest is a veteran that has teamed up with a data analyst and a computer geek. They have the data. The election was stolen. They used every single method from kicking voters off the eligible elector list, to vote switching, to ballot box stuffing. The election was a sham that shows a clear Russian Tail.
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Honestly? I know who Chris Titus is. Never figured he’d not be a Trump supporter. Know nothing about him really, and I guess my impression of him was completely wrong. So…uhmmmmm…cool! Thanks for sharing!
I’m about 10 minutes into the first part. And, yeah, this is really really…idfk…fuck. Thanks. I’m really glad you shared this.
Edit:
The “mildly tangential ranting” on this comment I made yesterday I think is kinda relevant to this…if only tangentially…
I refer to him as a left leaning Dennis Leary. I can understand why you’d think he was right leaning. He’s got the “middle aged white man funny rant” style of comedy down pat.
I remember his network show and stand up specials, always been a fan
This guy seems like he might know what he’s talking about but is there a version that isn’t a 3 hour video?
Like an article or something?
Thanks to Elections Canada it’s actually a lot better than the states. We also get answers sooner. There’s nothing like an American election to make Canadians thankful for Elections Canada.
Yeah, our Elections Canada is quite solid.
The influencing of support for our right-wing party endorsed by Elon Musk/Trump/Jordan Peterson via X, Facebook, and campaign financing is the real issue imo.
It’s just something to grab the headlines and make people focus on something other than Hegseth and China.
No, it’s not. It’s a 1930’s that focused on a bloc of the United States, Canada, and Greenland.
Fuck no this is a technocrat idea?!
Hahahaha. Those fucking idiots had ideas so bad they’re going to destroy the USA a hundred years later. Amazing
At least make the offer enticing, give Canada the option to join as 10 states (one per province); giving them an allotment of the 435 house seats and 20 senators.
I’m pretty sure that would be more than enough to swing the house, senate and presidency towards the left for the next few generations at least.
Canada could literally save the US if that were the case.
Suggesting that invading and annexing a country is an “enticing offer” if they’re given voting rights instead of becoming an enslaved resource colony is a hell of a take… “But it’ll be good because the USA will benefit!”
Stop sanewashing a horrific invasion with selfish American-centric reasons. I’m trying to say this in the nicest way possible but this is one of the reasons the world despises the USA right now.
I see these types of comments constantly and it blows my mind that some Americans think this is reasonable and not a deeply offensive and ignorant thing to say.
Yeah, that’s the thing. Even if you buy the idea of Trump’s policies (which TBH have a few grains of truth), the implementations of them are so full of nonsense. Like, ok, get Canada into the US, let’s just roll with that for the sake of argument… It might make Canada and the US stronger, like the openness between the states does. It would consolidate many federal functions. Canda could retain their culture like individual states do. Sounds plausible.
…And your plan is to get them to join as one state, and only if they grovel to you, by harassing them on Twitter, offering zero details? Like, what world is he living in?
Fucking Americans. You all should just shut the fuck up. You’re not helping yourselves.
Fuck off with that bullshit. We have no interest in losing our freedom, healthcare, safety and rights to save the usa.
Maybe you should try fixing your own house.
Also, there are 10 provinces and 3 territories.
I’ll keep my sovereignty, Healthcare and safe children, and defend that with my life.
Try to do something and see how your army does against 30 million insurgents who you can’t tell from your own citizens. You couldn’t beat Iraq, wouldn’t be good against Canada, nato and the commonwealth.
Elbows up
41 million insurgents
I think something around 10% of Canadians would be okay with it
We don’t exist to fix your broken country. Y’all need to stop buying in to stupid ass theories on how this would be good for the US. It won’t, many of us Canadians would rather be dead than to be American.
A better solution for your political would be for the USA to break up and no longer be a country. If you honestly believe your politcal problems can’t be fixed without someone giving up their country, then it should be you willing to give up your country, not someone else.
2 quick points;
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I’m not American and I don’t want to see Canadians lose their sovereignty.
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I was using argumentum ad absurdism to point out that this entire “proposal” would be self-defeating for Trump and the Republicans. It’s an absolute non-starter.
One quick point: the USA is currently absurd in reality. Attempting to to use absurd hypotheticals to point out something wrong is not an effective way of arguing anything now, if it ever was.
I’ve noticed Americans tend to make abhorrent statements and if called out for it they just say “it was only a joke!” Your abhorrent statements followed by “it was just argumentum ad absurdism!” doesn’t seem all too different to me.
Canadians are not going to fix your problems. We were your allies and so we did our best to help the US because that’s what allies do. But you make us an enemy then our only goal will be to destroy the USA, not fix its problems. THERE IS NO SCENARIO WHERE CANADA IS THE 51ST STATE. There are scenarios where we are your ally and there are scenarios where we are your enemy. Those are your only choices.
Y’all need to stop having fantasies and understand the reality the problems your country has created and understand you are responsible for fixing those problems. Clean up your own mess FFS.
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A better solution for your political (situation) would be for the USA to break up and no longer be a country.
As an American, I endorse this plan. Let it all just dissolve
13 Commonwealths you say?
