MAGA’s gonna party like it’s 2020!

  • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I feel like these articles might not be true and then we all act like the sky is falling and then it doesn’t. Like yesterday I saw posts about Trump wearing blue. But lots of people wore blue. I think there’s bait going around

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    There any sense on what would be good to stock up on now? When I’ve searched this, the advice is usually pretty worthless. Just advice indistinguishable from general prepper stuff. I’ve seen recommendations to stock up on things like flour, things that the US produces domestically in abundance. But some necessities are going to be more vulnerable to disruptions in shipments from China than others.

    Anyone find a good guide or have a sense of what basic household necessities are going to be most vulnerable to disruption of trade with China? I’m not concerned with things like consumer electronics right now, those are luxuries. I’m talking basic food and household staples. I don’t need the standard prepper list that’s meant to prepare you for grave natural disasters. What’s really needed is an analysis of precisely what necessities are most likely to be interrupted by this.

    Has anyone seen such a list, or have a sense for what necessities are most vulnerable here?

    • LordKitsuna@lemmy.world
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      If you’re just worried about the possibility of shortages and not being able to get food easily then stock up on things that will last a long time in the freezer, is something that you will regularly use regardless, and won’t break you to buy in bulk.

      Even with some of the prices already going up a little bit chicken is a good example, you can go by huge packs of it at Costco for a reasonable price still at the moment and other similar stores, vegetables like broccoli florets tend to hold up decently in the freezer for a little while (4-6months) and there multiple types of bread that deal well with being frozen and then later thawed out if you use bread a lot.

      Basically instead of trying to hyper optimize like some type of prepper just look at what you generally go through, evaluate what out of that is something that will last in a freezer for a good amount of time, and then bulk up on it and just continue using your food like you normally would. Worst case scenario you saved tiny bit of money by buying in bulk which usually comes with a slight savings. Best case scenario shortly after your bulk buying price is Skyrocket and you can try and ride it out off of your supplies.

      Avoid the toilet paper problem by getting a bidet, I spent money on the nice $300 one it has heated water which I like and now a single pack of toilet paper from Costco is like almost a Year’s worth of toilet paper because I only use it to help dry a little faster than the weird but hair dryer does so i use almost nothing

        • Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 year ago

          Any fellow bidet user should feel smug about it, I say in half jest. Not using a bidet is barbaric, I say in full seriousness.

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              We got a new toilet several months ago and it took some time for the new bidet to get here. Those couple weeks have never felt more disgusting and it removed absolutely any doubts about their superiority.

              • ibelieveinthehousehippo@lemmy.ca
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                We have started a sort of bidet pyramid scheme and have converted so many people. Housewarming? Bidet! Christmas? Bidet! Birthday? That calls for a bidet!

                I must admit we’re a bit selfish in that we want to minimize the likelihood of bidetless crapping when we’re away from home.

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                  Come to find out, thanks to bidets thorough, frictionless cleaning they’re incredible for people who suffer from hemorrhoids. They’re really hygienic and beneficial and everyone should just get on board already.

                • ibelieveinthehousehippo@lemmy.ca
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                  1 year ago

                  There’s travel options that are a bit like using one of those picnic ketchup bottles. But if you’re like me, you want to blast your ass with a pressure washer and a squeeze bottle just won’t cut it. Some people suggest using a travel water pik but I haven’t tried it myself.

      • pool_spray_098@lemmy.world
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        I agree.

        90% of toilet paper is apparently domestically produced in the USA.

        Doesn’t matter. The shortage wasn’t rational then and it won’t be rational this time. It will just be the first thing people hoard.

    • Donkter@lemmy.world
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      I think the tp during COVID was kind of a fluke. It could have been anything. Laundry detergent, some food product etc. TP was just what the news hung their hat on so it’s what everyone thought about when they went to the store.

      I’m personally buying rice, beans, and lots of spices to make some delicious meals and wait out the price shocks of food.

      Besides that, I mean what do you really need need when it comes to this stuff? I can think of a few things but it’s a very short list. Really we’re just going to have to ride it out and hope it doesn’t get bad bad

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        Supposedly the TP issue was that the supply chain was segmented out by office TP and home TP, can’t easily switch over easily but everyone was crapping at home.

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            1 year ago

            Same, especially if it’s a high-traffic one. Our office has one shared for the floor, with 2 other businesses on the same floor sharing it. It’s like Grand Central Station in there…

            • ibelieveinthehousehippo@lemmy.ca
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              Haha yeah I guess in that case I poop at work on company time too.

              I’m still in the group chat for the office nearest me and there was a LOT of outrage last week because the company mysteriously removed all of the bidets. I was outraged on their behalf!

    • Realitätsverlust@lemmy.zip
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      Keep in mind that flour might be in abundance now, but if everyone in the country buys it, the supply might drop quickly.

      Apart from that, dried beans and lentils are probably a good source of nutrients, easy to store and last for a while.

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      It’s impossible to know, the economy is complex. Even your example of flour may be affected. Many things aren’t done by hand, and if a machine used in producing flour needs parts that’s sourced from China, there could be a problem that disrupts production. Many things from China comes by ship there’s already been a significant drop in shipping from there. Remember it takes more than a month for a ship to cross the Pacific, and from there it may need to go by rail to where you are. If you live towards the east coast, it will take longer, and if there’s disruptions at the Panama Canal, there could be even more of a delay.

      Shipping was busy before the tarrifs, companies were frontloading and warehouses are full. But if people start panic buying, that’ll empt the warehouses really quick and it could be months before anything new gets shipped in and who knows what the prices will be?

      Some stuff that’s made in China might be fine if no one panic buys is. Some things made in USA there may be shortages or massive price increases because they need materials from other countries to manufacture them.

      So the generic prepper stuff is pretty much the best anyone can offer you. Make sure you have a month’s supply of everything you need, more if possible. You’d need to know the specifics of every industry’s material needs and also know what people might panic buy to be able to be more specific than that.

      This is why Trump’s broad tariffs are insane, it’s just pure economic chaos that’s going to hurt Americans more than it will hurt anyone else in the world.

    • duckworthy36@lemm.ee
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      My advice is if you need something electronic or mechanical and it’s expensive buy it now. I just replaced my hvac last month because I know this summer will be a mess. Most air conditioners are made in Asia. You want an e-bike, buy it now.

      The more parts something has the more likely it’s going to be affected by tariffs.

      Start growing some food if you can it’s a great way to be more resilient. I’d recommend buying things like coffee and tea and chocolate that are not easily grown in the US. There’s actually a pretty bad chocolate shortage right now I believe.

      Also for other stuff, buy used, in thrifts or on eBay. Not only are you recycling, most sellers are individuals rather than big corps. Also, if you have old stuff you are not using, it’s a great time to sell. My eBay sales are up 10% this year.

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        Big fan of buying used on eBay, here. Works amazingly for clothes, too. They aren’t nearly as poor quality or as dirty as people would imagine. I can get brand new shoes or pairs of pants for $10-$20 per pair!

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      I just want to add this here, in the hopes that people see this.

      From what I have read the shortage of toilet paper during Covid that became a meme representing the whole experience of supply chain shocks is actually misplaced.

      The major reason there was a shortage of toilet paper was not really because there was a panic buy of toilet paper that cleared the shelves out, or rather that happened only after there was a genuine shortage cause by the fact that a massive amount of people moved from using toilet paper at their jobs, in their employers bathrooms, bought from a B2B company and delivered by a truck specialized in delivering supplies for businesses… to buying toilet paper from distribution networks positioned to deliver products to consumers in grocery stores and such.

      Those are seperate logistics networks with seperate companies, seperate delivery trucks, seperate everything, distribution and sales of toilet paper not smoothly adapting to the shock of Covid was a product of this, not just some purely irrational fear in consumers, there is a legitimate reason it happened and it won’t likely happen again unless there is mass unemployment… at which point there are bigger problems….

  • AA5B@lemmy.world
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    I have the worst timing …. I’ve been trying to eat my way down to an empty freezer. I bought a chest freezer in covid and kept it full ever since, but it really needs to be defrosted. I still have more stuff in there than can fit in all my coolers and in the fridge.

    But maybe I should restock while I can and try again to defrost in four years

    • johnpmac@lemm.ee
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      It’s all the drinking of liberal tears. And the drinking of conservative tears. And the drinking of the tears of the middle class. And drinking of the tears of poor people. And just eating fucking crow all the time cause he’s a goddamn moron. I’m sure there’s a lot of otherreasons. Those are just a few.

    • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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      This probably won’t be a starvation situation. This will be a supply crunch for all the cheap shit at Walmart and Target that Americans love.

      • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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        Have no fear, Classico Pasta sauce should fare just fine, because their main ingredient is now water! Also now that it’s the main ingredient, they can just dial it up as much as they want without it moving up the list anymore!

  • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
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    I’m living the dream with individually wrapped quilted 3-ply tp rolls and $1.75/doz eggs. Current version of the us sucks balls.

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      Grateful at this moment for my wife who grew up food insecure who stocked up several months of food. That will run out though eventually.

        • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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          AI Answer to how many you’d need

          To sustainably feed yourself with rabbits, you’d likely need a small breeding colony of rabbits. A few does (female rabbits) and a buck (male rabbit) could produce enough meat for one person. A guideline is one doe and a buck can produce about 2-3 dozen meat rabbits per year, says Polyculture Farming. More Details:

          Breeding:

          A small breeding colony of rabbits, like 2 does and a buck, could potentially produce 40-50 rabbits per year, enough for a small family, according to Mother Earth News.

          Meat Yield:

          A rabbit can yield a significant amount of meat. One rabbit can easily feed a family of four, and they are generally sold whole, weighing just under three pounds, says Countryside Magazine and FoodPrint.

          Sustainability:

          Rabbits can be a sustainable meat source due to their relatively efficient conversion of feed to meat compared to other livestock. Individual Needs:

          The number of rabbits needed would depend on your individual meat consumption and preferences.

      • Snowclone@lemmy.world
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        Faster than you think. I’ve lived off zero a few long stretches, it get really irritating when you realize you’re out of fat to lose.

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    1 year ago

    Let me put it this way. Today I spent over $700 on a massive amount of groceries and various toiletries.

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      Jesus, Mary and Joseph and all his carpenter friends what the fuck did you spend 700 dollars on? Is that US?

      Like I know you said groceries and various toiletries but the curiosity is tickling me.

      • AugustWest@lemm.eedeleted by creator
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        Last time I was in the states I figured it worked out to about 100 per bag of grocerys.

        So they bought 7 bags. Or maybe 5 now.

        Easy to do.

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        Could actually be a lot of canned goods. The top shelf stuff is like $5 per can 😳

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        Yes, USD. I bought some fresh food (and do so regularly), but also a ton of non-perishables: lots of canned food, various kinds of rice, cereals, oatmeal, lots of water, etc. Protein and carbs. 48 rolls of toilet paper (I have a bidet so this will last me about two years), and so on.

        I’m building up my reserves. I have a large pantry and several large cupboards to keep it all in, and could probably buy another $700 worth and have a place to keep it. I also cook at home for most meals and so I rotate through these food stuffs faster than you’d expect. There’s no canned food older than two years, and most items are newer than six months. I generally buy more than I need, but not usually this much.

        I’m not a “prepper” in an “underground bunker” sense, but I do prepare for emergencies and instability, whatever form it may take: political, yes, but I also live on several fault lines, so “the big one” might happen at some point. In the winter, ice and snow occasionally confine me to my home for a week or two at a time. They’re all the same to me from a planning perspective.

        The original price was $850, but I clip coupons and maximize sales and brought it down by over $150.

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          48 rolls of toilet paper (I have a bidet so this will last me about two years), and so on.

          Seriously, you have a bidet. Plop a small bottle of handsoap near the toilet and squirt a small bit on your wiping hand while the spray does it’s thing and you clean off using the soapy fingers. Let the bidet rinse your hands and asshole for a few more seconds. Keep a towel nearby for drying your hands and ass, that is replaced as you feel and serves only that purpose. If you do it right, no fecal matter will be on your hands when you dry and you can wash them again at the sink.

          Toilet paper is just a waste.

        • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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          I’m not a “prepper” in an “underground bunker” sense, but I do prepare for emergencies and instability, whatever form it may take: political, yes, but I also live on several fault lines

          Assuming you’re a homeowner, make sure to check if your home insurance policy covers earthquake damage. By default most insurance policies don’t cover seismic.

          • xyzzy@lemm.ee
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            It does, and I have an automatic gas shutoff valve as well (it’s gone off once before, which made for a pretty surprising morning shower).

            But this is good advice for anyone who lives in a similar area. Don’t put yourself in a position where you could lose everything because you were trying to save a few bucks a month.

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        As an individual I spend about 100 a week on groceries. My guess is stocking up for weeks of food which I’ve been slowly stockpiling myself. Or a large family 4-5+