And somehow every single time the problem was so easy to solve, but apparently crying about it is the better solution.
Is it really clown behavior or is it a 200 iq move?
Windows is better… oh, really? Linux is like a breath of fresh air for me, and in two years of using it, I have never noticed or encountered any critical problems or bugs, but when there is a problem, it is usually not so difficult to solve it because there are resources and people who can help.
My only regret is that I didn’t try Linux a few years ago.
I don’t like windows, but I’ve been using various distros on and off for 15 years and it was absolutely never painless. Nvidia drivers still barely work for me (although admittedly they are shit on windows too). Making my computer wake from sleep is the stuff of nightmares. Integrated laptop webcam? No way in hell.
The only thing I give Linux a top score in is compatibility with my audio interface.
Same experience here… It feels like what using personal computers was always supposed to feel like before capitalism infected it.
Windows is better - they wouldn’t use it for atm’s if it wasn’t superior
Jokes aside, I asked my previous boss once why everyone kept paying for Microsoft products instead of using FOSS. The answer was paid support and you can sell it.
i’ve seen atms running os/2 warp. they take what they are given.
Well they had to use Windows as OS/2 wasn’t available/viable anymore.
Myguy, let me introduce you to the /s modifier
People routinely use worse options because of familiarity
gr8 b8 m8
Bless your heart ❤️
Windows and Mac have taught people to ignore safety error messages. We’re gonna be dealing with the fallout of that for generations.
Ngl, i love linux so much more and would never go back to windows but right now my audio jack doesn’t work for my new pc build.
I’ve contacted the manufacturer of the motherboard, they say to try Windows
I’ve posted on linux questions subreddit, nothing replied
I’ve posted on EndeavourOS forums, got views, not replies.
I’ve gone so into the weeds I’m trying to remap pins because I’m assuming the manufacturer relies on something Windows pre-configures so audio will play but it never makes it out of the port but it’s been weeks and I can’t solve it.
Again, I’d never go back to windows but damn do I feel stranded rn.
Motherboard: Minisforum BD790i X3D OS: endeavouros
Have you tried making a meme about how windows is so much better?
What always has me seeing red is when I’m deep diving forums searching for anyone who has had my exact issue. Finding people with similar, but not exactly the same, issues with easy solutions that don’t work for me. Finally finding one forum post from 9 months ago, it is literally the exact same issue I’m dealing with. One reply. It’s OP a few days/weeks/months later replying to their own post only to say:
Nevermind, I fixed it.
But no solution, no response to commenting on the post or DMing…
Makes me wanna slap a mfr…
Does it work on Windows?
Because it could just as well be a shitty solder job
Also next time never say you use Linux to a support tech. They will blame it all on linux, whether the pc is broken in half or covered in rat piss, it will always be you who broke it by using unsupported software.
Yup, I noticed that I couldn’t use an audio and microphone jack at the same time after an update, so I went around searching for what might have broke it. Then since Windows was still installed I tried it there and it still didn’t work. I’m pretty sure it’s a weird hardware error.
This!
Does your monitor have speakers, or a headphone jack? Interested to see if the sound works that way. And very silly question, have you tried a different wire/device in the audio jack or only the one?
From a quick search it seems that the mobo uses a Realtek audio chip, which is probably the actual problem. My current system build uses one and it barely worked under Windows, it’d randomly remap the channels, sometimes it just wouldn’t come up properly (Showed as only a microphone, etc.), had lots of static noise, would constantly think I was unplugging and replugging headphones in, etc. Just a terrible experience compared to the Intel audio system the build before this used.
As much as “just buy another bit of hardware” is an awful bit of advice, I’d recommend getting a USB DAC/soundcard, I bought a cheap soundblaster one and it fixed all my problems. USB audio is a well-defined standardised protocol that’s supported by just about everything, does away with any driver issues or incompatibilities, can be moved between devices, etc. Mine’s a “gaming” model so it’s just a USB port on one side and a headset jack on the other, but you can also get ones with proper inbuilt amplifiers to run full speaker kits, etc.
Yeah? Try playing MYST VR with a quest 2 and Nvidia GPU.
I love Linux, but sometimes I just wanna pin it against the wall and make violent love to it until my issue is fixed. Though usually the love making is more of a frustrating 6 hours of troubleshooting.
BTW, are we allowed to sexualize an OS?
quest 2
There’s your problem right there. /s
I had really bad performance with an nvidia GPU in VR in Linux, once, and all I could find that described the same specific issue I had was a steam community discussion post by someone who claimed that the steam vr compositor was just bugged, and no less that it was a bug regression, and there was nothing to do but wait for Valve to fix it. I think the post was already a year old when I found it.
I haven’t tried it again, yet, but I’ve also moved to arch with Wayland since then. And the nvidia drivers did become much more reliable for me, so maybe it will magically work out of the box this time… Or maybe it won’t, and I’ll just end up wasting hours trying to find a solution while wading through AI polluted Google searches again before giving up.
This is honestly the only reason Linux is not my only OS. I have a laptop with an integrated and dedicated nvidia rtx3060 gpu, and Linux has trouble with the Nvidia drivers and I get stuttering in almost all games and 3d applications.
I went into a discord specialised in lenovo Legion on linux, and even they couldn’t help me, though they were very helpful. My requirements aren’t even insane, I just want to slice files for my 3d printer without issues and play a 2d browser game from time to time.
I’m still debugging it, it mug have to do with the power management firmware. But this is not ready for the mainstream consumer if its necessary to go this deep.
Initial release: September 17, 1991; 33 years ago
Sure
So many times I see junior Devs (or not so juniors) and normies seeing an error message and, visibly, static plays between their ears on their mental TV set, then they just click the first button that looks appropriate and complain it didn’t work.
The text of the message does not get read or parsed.
“You need to close the program to continue”. Doesn’t work.
“Unexpected X at line N” Doesn’t work.
Drives me insane.
Unfortunately, so many error messages are so utterly useless that it has taught many people that all errors are just pointless background noise even if they’re actually giving useful info.
I mean, java and Microsoft errors are preceded by 120 characters of useless trash oftentimes, that is equally as infuriating.
Yeah, proprietary software are the worst offenders.
Or Windows gives you a blue screen and just “BAD_POOL_HEADER”.
I got that intermittently at work on an instrument about every week or two. The best answer I could find was “it could be software or hardware related”. Yeah, thanks for that, problem solved. Wish I had thought of that. Not even a time stamp. Finally found out when it occurred to within 20 minutes and there was jack shit in the logs.
IT ended up calling in a service tech to re-image the computer.
Ah, windows logs, another amazing experience that doesn’t make me want to kill everyone.
tail /var/log/thing.logis far too easy
I used to do some linux training for new hires at my old job. The company had a training room with a rack of servers for lab work.
It was a training on how to deploy the product on a customer server. I personally wrote the instructions and tested them on the lab machines after a fresh install.
I had others test the lab instructions. I even had people from non-tech roles verify that they too could do the labs by following the instructions.
Still I get a guy in the training complaining that “this doesn’t work” and I can see from the error on his screen that he must have skipped one of the steps in the lab instructions.
He’s not even trying to figure it out. Even though others are finishing, he just decided that it doesn’t work and gave up.
Well, if you’re expecting users to read…
Yeah its a tough crowd sometimes. Especially when doing that training with our customers.
I’ll never forget the time I was explainging how something worked and one of the customers interrupts me saying, “I don’t care about this – can you just show me where to click?”
I’ve done my share of training too. Some people just want recipes. They have no interest in knowing why they’re doing something.
As always the best way to get a response on the internet is not to ask a question.
The best way is to post a wrong answer.
Classic murphys law.
This is right and every body agrees.
You are WRONG! That is Cunningham’s Law!
(Hook, line, and sinker)
Good ol’ Murphy. The Hammurabi of the internet.
How is this clown behavior? If anything, not accepting the proposed solution to the issue would be it
This is more like, wisdom of the ancients kind of thing
I’ve switched to Linux because at this point it’s easier to deal with problems on Linux than using Windows and getting it to usable state.
And if something doesn’t run on Linux… I use something else, easy as that.
Why switch to second person in the last panel?
Because I wrote this while in class.
Step (5): realise the lion’s share of people have no clue how anything works, and throwing a tantrum is their only (successful) technique to any technical problem.
When I worked as a system administrator, I discovered that most people would skip curiosity and go straight for anger and abuse. You collapsed a row in excel again and don’t remember how to undo it? Time to call helpdesk and yell at them how stupid they are for breaking your computer again.
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In the late 1990s/early 2000s, there was some satire article about how to get most effective Linux support. Just write an angry news/blog article about how Linux sucks because it doesn’t (insert the thing you’re having problems with here). You bet someone will immediately respond how you’re an idiot and you should (insert detailed explanation of how to fix the thing here).
Nvmd, I fixed the issue
