• Sundray@lemmus.org
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    4 days ago

    If an administration can threaten liberal institutions today, he argued, “what would stop a leftist administration from targeting churches and synagogues tomorrow?”

    There will be no leftest administration. That’s the GOP plan, fool.

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      4 days ago

      And that’s just the difference between the right and the left anyway. With the exception of extremes like nazism, a leftist government would allow churches and let these fkn clowns do whatever they want to do in their free time and live their lives the way they want. Whereas a right wing government will force their religion onto people whether they want it or not and strip generalized groups of people of their rights because apparently their imaginary friend wants them to do that.

      If only the big bad left would be a little less tolerant of delusions and stupidity, maybe the world would be a better place. Because the moment the delusional stupid people get the chance, they prove to all of us why they never deserved tolerance in the first place. Seems all too clear to me now that religious conservatives simply cannot be trusted to play nicely with everyone else and should never be allowed near positions of power ever again, just like nazis.

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        23 hours ago

        With the exception of extremes like nazism, a leftist government would allow

        With no disagreement intended to your overall points, I feel compelled to mention that Nazis were not/are not leftists by any means, and that although the word “Socialist” is right in there, this was because Hitler co-opted the name.

        I’m sure there are better articles than this one, but it was the one I could find the quickest: https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

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          22 hours ago

          Ah maybe I could’ve worded that better. I wasn’t trying to say that the nazis were some strange breed of leftist. I was saying that a leftist government would allow different schools of thought to exist whether they’re left wing or not, with the exception of nazism.

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            22 hours ago

            100% I got it! 🙂 I just feel the need to correct that whenever I see it because from time to time you see a maga who knows what nazi stands for, and likes to “remind” everyone that the nazis were “socialists”, but they usually don’t know or don’t admit the rest.

            (not that I thought you were doing so at all!)

            Edit: LOL I actually didn’t get it when I typed, that but I really do now, sorry for my comprehension issues!

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              22 hours ago

              It’s all good lol. I’ve definitely come across the MAGA types that like to go on about how they were ‘nationalist socialists’, emphasis on the socialist part. But they were about as socialist as North Korea is democratic. So it’s fair to make that assumption these days because we’re living in times of idiocracy. So next time I make a comment like that I’ll try to be clearer.

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        4 days ago

        “I know we have an affordable and completely effective cure for this cancer and it will save countless lives, but has anyone asked the cancer what it thinks?”

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      4 days ago

      Something I’ve thought about is that religious tax exemptions in America aren’t to prevent the non religious from taxing the religious. It’s to prevent Christian majorities from taxing other religions out of existence.

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        We can change the tax code to allow tax exemptions for religious organizations with income/assets below a certain thresholds, with punitive measures (actual jail time) for hiding assets.

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          Or we could require that churches actually do some good with the money they collect in order to qualify for tax exempt status. There should be no religious exemption, if a church wants tax exempt status they should have to do something to deserve it like charity.

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            4 days ago

            I think you are absolutely right.

            It would be much simpler to just extend to them charitable expenditures, and only that.

            The more charity they do, the less taxes they pay.

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        The trade off was no tax on churches for no tax on higher education. Trump is going after colleges so it’s time to go after churches

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        it’s super hard though to convince the IRS your non-christian org should be tax exempt than a christian one. in wording, it seems at face value like what you’ve said. but in practice it’s the single greatest tool the christian hegemony has in this system of oppression.