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I just commented to get rid of the 88 count. Smash the fash.
It’s being reliant on medication - that’s a problem for any combat role
Like if you are 100% reliant on Adderall in order to function, you cannot be in a combat role.
Also, not all trans people take meds or surgically transition. Can confirm.
Yeah, those fascists totally care about the medical aspect and not the fact that they’re trans. Right… /s
funny how the ban isn’t about medication but gender instead. weird how things just coincidentally happen
While I’m very angry at the prejudice within the army, this does seem like an interesting aspect to it I hadn’t heard of before.
But yeah, as someone else said, it sounds like it was not just to combat roles.
Yeah for non combat roles excluding trans people is most likely just due to most of the military leadership hating trans people
All of it is due to hating trans people
The problem is that it’s a blanket ban (plus retroactive firing) of all trans people serving in the military, not just an asterisk on serving combat roles.
For non combat roles the exclusion of Trans people is due to military leadership largely hating trans people
Schrödingers president. He’s a senile moron who shits himself and can’t form coherent sentences, but he’s also an evil mastermind that is masterfully installing a fascist regime right under our noses!
/s
Umberto Eco (a survivor of Mussolini’s actual regime) identified this as one of the core traits of Ur-Fascism. Specifically, #8…
The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies.… However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.
You will note that Republicans check literally every single box of Umberto Eco’s list.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism
That was my same thought. The enemy is too strong but also too weak?
I am always glad when people share this because whenever I bring it up IRL it seems like nobody else has read it.
I think of this every time I see some egregiously fascist behavior on display in the Trump admin getting defended by people who think the left is overreacting. I wish more people knew about this and understood that it’s not some left wing looney saying it, it’s a guy who lived through it and can identify it for what it truly is.
We are outnumbered, as usual.
But we also outnumber THEM!
That’s n-
You know yeah okay yes, good point
Is Doublethink a more adequate term?
Yes. And no.
Yes
To be fair, they have a problem with trans women in women’s sports. They don’t have a problem with trans men in men’s sports because they can’t imagine a situation where a trans man could possibly compete with “real” men.
It goes along with their idea that women are weak, so women are weak athletes and women’s sports teams are weak. If you accept that, it’s not a big stretch to think that someone who has gone through puberty as a male will have an automatic huge advantage in every women’s sport because their body has male characteristics.
On the other hand to them, the military is the ultimate in manly activities. Anybody other than a pure, manly man will be at a disadvantage in anything military. That includes trans men, trans women and regular women. Right now the focus is on trans people, but I’m sure they’ll want to kick women out of the military too eventually.
So, if you accept that logic, it makes sense that trans women are too weak for the military, but too strong for women’s sports. There’s no contradiction there.
There are fewer trans atheists in college sports than there are kids with measles in Texas. Guess which one they want people to focus on.
Also, what the fuck ever happened to “Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”? You cannot tell me in good faith that the <gasp> ‘trans threat*’ is so great a crisis of inequity and unfairness that the right wing really gives a damn about that.
*sarcasm, people.
It also goes along with their mentality that trans men are simply poor, defenseless women who have been brainwashed into wanting to become strong, powerful men. And also how trans women must be mentally ill. Because how could anyone not want to be a man? Women who want to be men are understandable but misguided, and men who want to be women are sick and to be both pitied and hated - but especially hated.
To be fair
Who are you being fair to?
Not to any particular person, just fair to the truth of the situation. You know, not whacking at straw men.
The truth of the situation is that fascists no consistency of morality or logic. You don’t need to help them.
You also don’t need to lie about their beliefs. When you do that, it just makes people wonder why you’re lying and why you can’t stick to the truth if your point is so strong.
They have no beliefs. That’s the core characteristic of fascism. Their beliefs change after a millisecond if the strongman says so.
doublespeak fr
True story. Back in 2008 there were two op-ed pieces on the smae page of the Murdoch owned New York Post.
One said that voting for Obama was a waste of time, because he was a centrist neoliberal who’d only serve up milder versions of GOP programs, so you’d be better off with an actual Republican.
The other screamed that he was a radical Socialist who would destroy America.
Same newspaper, same page, no irony
Brace yourself for all the “gotcha!” comments from enlightened centrists that don’t understand the core concept of controlled opposition or propaganda.
People nitpicking on the internet?
Un-possible!
Theres nitpicking, and theres just disingenuous horse shit from centrists telling you that ummm actually both sides are the same.
Are you unfamiliar with the concept of an Op Ed?
So, you read what I wrote and concluded that in life I’d only seen one Op-Ed page?
You funny, in a sad way.
Apparently so. You seem surprised that there were two people who had different opinions on the same page in the Op Eds. That’s what Op Eds are.
Again, I ask, are you familiar with the concept of an Op Ed? Or are you just confused that people might have different opinions?
You get funnier and funnier.
Please keep telling me about how much smarter you are than I am.
I’m just letting you prove it yourself.
So, you got nothing?
Too bad, I could always use another laugh.
The rest of us are laughing at you, so you could try that?
Both opinions agree that you should not vote for Obama, that is the editorial strategy, the different motivations are to capture the whole range of voters.
Nowadays it is even easier to do this, thank to personalized news. They can tell unemployed people that immigrants are stealing all the jobs, while they can tell taxpayers that immigrants are leaving off grants. They can even tell cat lovers that immigrants are eating all the cats.
The idea you are pushing that Op-Eds are a whiteboard for diverse opinions is either innocent or malicious.
Op Eds are obviously influenced by the bias of the newspaper that runs them. But, there’s no need to veer into conspiracy theories just because two of them happen to be anti-Obama for different reasons.
Isn’t this what the opinion page is for?
Not only is it what Op Eds are for, it’s also extremely common practice to have two contrasting views on the same page to give voice to a variety of different opinions.
Complaining about two Op Eds on the same page with different opinions is like complaining that a dictionary has two definitions of two different words on the same page.
Now that we’re solidly in the era of alternative facts, all that seems to register is what a politician says in the moment. It’s really depressing to watch both political parties and 99% of voters just shrug their shoulders and go along with the utter stupidity of our political culture, even in full knowledge of its deleterious effects on their own lives.
Schrodinger’s Canada: we don’t need anything from them, but we’d love to own them anyway.
Schrodinger’s energy crisis:
We need to sell public lands for oil extraction since we have an energy crisis!
We need to cancel wind energy and solar facility construction!
schrodinger: jeez cmon guys all i did was kill a cat (maybe)
Their military excuse is actually that a person who switches gender can’t be honest and committed, which is just as crazy, it still has that view that people “choose” to be trans and by choosing to be trans they should a lack of commitment to their birth gender i guess??
That’s why I’m appalled this is even a discussion, they aren’t even pretending to have a valid military or medical excuse, they just jumped straight to “Group is bad because I don’t like them.”
I lived through post 9/11 bullshit and how they wanted to ban Muslims from the military, all the open racism and rhetoric. Same shit different day and target, it’s a right wing pattern they always follow
You swore an oath when you signed that birth certificate! “I swear to uphold my assigned gender and to maintain my proper genital configuration until death!” It’s right there on the document, you can’t fool us with this whole “I was literally minutes old, I didn’t sign anything! That’s not even a thing!” That’s just what a Communist oath breaker would say!
This is a mixed metaphor. Women are kept out of frontline combat much like they’re sidelined to the WNBA: segregated under the guise of inclusion.
Err does anyone on the right actually think we have secure borders?
Like wasn’t “securing the borders” part of Trump’s pitch? As in “there’s an invasion taking place and we need to secure the borders”?
The trans one is spot on though
I’m not sure the trans one is contradictory in the conservative mindset. Trans women are too “manly”, trans men are too “effeminate” according to them.
Err does anyone on the right actually think we have secure borders?
Yes, Trump and his administration keep saying this.
“The Invasion of our Country is OVER.” https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114088564162922800
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/28/100-days-most-secure-border-american-history
the rest of the world thinks it’s terribly hilarious. and now they’re picking a fight with canada? lmao that’s a hell of a wall to build to keep out a teaspoon of fent.
and there’s no point in asking the “right” in the usa any questions any more, because they can’t be trusted to answer you in good faith. they’re lost, and it’s just a matter of time before america realizes they’re really just on the brink of a war with themselves.
It’s telling that Trump never brings up the Sackler family and Purdue Pharma. They’re the one’s directly responsible for over prescribing opioids and causing the fentanyl crisis in the first place. The court system has let them completely off the hook.
