• throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.worksdeleted by creator
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    You won’t be charged with entering illegally, but staying illegally.

    You won’t be charged with the import, but for posession. Well I guess for exports, if you procure it and export it quickly and then delete/destroy it from your posessions, its fine. But import? Nah. Whoever end with its possession is fucked.

    And for export, they could just charge for the creation of it without approval, not the export itself.

    Piracy? Yea they’ll just prosecute for posession.

    Tax fraud? They’ll just shut down IRS for duration of the purge so you can’t even file it.

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      Possession of pirated material isn’t illegal. It’s the distribution that gets you. That’s why torrenting needs a VPN but streaming is perfectly legal (for the viewer)

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        If they are gonna be crazy enough to enact a purge law, you bet they’ll be enacting a “copyright infringement is a crime” law.

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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    Pirates Software

    Large Company To Police:

    They pirated it after the purge ended. If you don’t destroy their property, I’ll make sure you get fired and your life forfeit!

      • GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today
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        I would bet that a great many heads of ‘large companies’ would be targeted in the first purge. There’s no way that there isn’t some disgruntled employee or even an ex-employee that wouldn’t be willing to take a swing at the big guy before poverty comes in for the kill.

    • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
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      Realistically, doesn’t randomly killing people harm capital, in so much as it would mean they must have more staff to cover the work of an unknown number of murdered employees afterwards, lose money spent training anyone that gets killed, and have a slightly smaller workforce available that also is more proficient at violence?

      • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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        In theory yes, less employees means the value of labor goes up because of demand. This is what happened after the Black Death in Europe.

        In the wake of the drastic population decline brought on by the plague, wages shot up, and labourers could move to new localities in response to wage offers. Local and royal authorities in Western Europe instituted wage controls. The government controls sought to freeze wages at the old levels before the Black Death. Within England, for example, the Ordinance of Labourers, enacted in 1349, and the Statute of Labourers, enacted in 1351, restricted both wage increases and the relocation of workers.[30] If workers attempted to leave their current post, employers were given the right to have them imprisoned. The statute was poorly enforced in most areas, and farm wages in England on average doubled between 1350 and 1450,[31] but they were then static until the late 19th century.[32]

        Cohn, comparing numerous countries, argues that the laws were not designed primarily to freeze wages. Instead, he says that the energetic local and royal measures to control labour and artisans’ prices were responses to elite fears of the greed and the possible new powers of the lesser classes that had gained new freedom. Cohn continues that the laws reflected the anxiety that followed the Black Death’s new horrors of mass mortality and destruction and from elite anxiety about manifestations, such as the flagellant movement and the persecution of Jews, Catalans (in Sicily) and beggars.

        Of course nothing will stop the ruling class from fuckery.

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    I’m gonna infringe on medical patents and pirate as much corpo medicine as I can in 12 hours

  • Wilco@lemm.ee
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    Let’s cover polygamy and tax fraud. If you marry multiple people during the purge … does that mean the marriages are all legal?

    If you claim a $1,000,000 tax refund and mail it while the purge is going … is that legal?

    Most people would have way more on their mind than just murder.

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      I would say that once the purge ends you cannot be legally married to multiple people. Meanwhile if you murder someone they’re just dead. If you kidnap someone you’d have to let them go when it ends.

      Stealing is an interesting gray area. Is possessing a stolen object the crime, or is the stealing the crime? Or possibly both? If possessing a stolen object is illegal then you’d have to return them when it ends.

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        It’s not “stolen” because stealing is a crime but you took it on free balloon Purge Day. It’s just something you have now.

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        What if you shot someone during the purge, but they did not actually die until the next day.

        I’m thinking this whole “no laws” concept would actually need hundreds of thousands of laws. Courts would be tied up for years after each purge just trying to answer the legal questions regarding having no law.

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          I think of it more as the law looking away from any incidents on the day, and ignoring any lasting consequences after. Makes it neater.

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      Within 4 hours of announcing that a “purge night” was a thing, they would have to revise it to just call it “murder night” and even then, it will get further modified to “Murder of sanctioned people and groups night” and even THEN they will have to further amend it until it finally says “The police get to murder you night” and then they will want to remove the nightly restriction and then BAM you have what we have now.

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        Just like that, you have moved any books written about the Purge from fiction to non-fiction.

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          I haven’t watched the movies in depth, but the premise alone speaks to me of a subtext that leads to this understanding about our world.

    • AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world
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      the purge: April 15th

      (for thise that are not american, this is when we have to file our taxes.)

      (also, americans have to file their taxes manually… nothing is automated)

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    During the purge I’d hide in my bunker while downloading as much copyrighted material as possible onto a harddrive.