Former adviser taunts president over links to Epstein while Trump threatens to cancel contracts for Musk companies
Elon Musk called for Donald Trump to be impeached after mocking his connections to the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, as the president threatened to cancel federal contracts and tax subsidies for Musk’s companies in an extraordinary social media feud on Thursday.
The deterioration of their once close relationship into bitter acrimony came over the course of several remarkable hours during which the president and the world’s richest man hurled deeply personal insults over matters significant and insignificant.
In the most churlish moment of the astonishing saga, Musk said on X the reason the Trump administration had not released the files into Epstein was because they implicated the president. He later quote-tweeted a post calling for Trump to be removed and said Trump’s tariffs would cause a recession.
“[They] detested each other. Which makes sense, because they were both detestable.”
Gen. Sir Harry Padgett Flashman, VC
But what about Musks association with Ghislaine Maxwell?
There is no denying it any more, the US is a very corrupt country
Last week tho, totally deniable. Now, not so much.
Lol
I have been saying it for decades that the US is corrupt, but people have been dying it for decades as well
Everything is about money here and I hate it so much. But I can’t find an exit.
Elon’s going to lose this fight. All the other rich people backing Trump still think the snake won’t bite them, and Elon doesn’t have the same cult of personality Trump does. He had some good will for a while, but he’s been burning that ever since the weird pedo guy thing, and that’s nowhere near Trump’s fucking cult energy. Forty years from now there’s still going to be dumbasses and edgy teens talking about how they heard a rumor that Trump is still alive out there in the wastes that used to be middle America.
Elon doesn’t have the same cult of personality Trump does
He used to, but then he started associating with Trump.
He really used to - remember all the iron man shit? The image of the benevolent billionaire who was going to open up space? I’m ashamed to admit I was tempted to believe too.
He lost the positive public image before he started associating with trump tho. I think what happened was he fired his PR team because he thought he could do better himself. Right around the time he got pissy and was calling that cave diver a pedo, the guy who saved a bunch of kids in Thailand. It was all downhill from there and I don’t remember ever seeing anyone piss away so much public goodwill so quickly.
Im gonna be honest, I never bought into the whole Phony Stark persona but I did but him at the same level as Bill Gates, (no such thing as a good billionare, but he’s doing SOME good things with his ill gotten gains).
The dudes brain is fucking fried for sure now. If he hadn’t hurt so many people, id almost feel bad for him.
It seems he wasn’t aware that his cult following came from the other end of the political spectrum.
Well, not quite the other end, but environmentally inclined business friendly liberals are still not quite Trump’s crowd.
Has anybody checked in on Patel and Bongino?
Are Patels eyes just now permanently stuck in bugged out psycopath stare now?
Did Bongino have a heart attack?
LOL yes let’s impeach him again. We are stuck with this Orange Turd. Republicans have given us this turd and we can’t flush him for 4 years.
You just gotta flush really hard. Say, approximately, 2,500ft/sec.
You gotta flush for at least 1.25 mooches straight.
You Americans really don’t like using the metric system, don’t you?
LOL yes let’s impeach him again
Why just once? Let’s impeach him two more times.
Impeach 2: this time we mean it. Coming to a theater near you.
Bold of you to assume we can get rid of him democratically.
I think they are implying the opposite
I believe he is referring to the “4 years” part. Trump is not leaving this time even if he loses
JD Vance is VERY silent right now, so I’m thinking this could all just be fake, and that the tech bros (led by Peter Thiel) are using all this drama to get JD Vance into the Oval Office. I don’t think this is a legit fight…I think this is all part of their long term plan.
There you go. Ignore the content of the screeching and look at what it’s trying to accomplish.
You know what would also get a lot more Teslas sold in a correctly Trump hating world, and partially decouple Trump from the political fallout of the DOGE mess?
Exactly what’s happening.
How fucking stupid do you have to be to think JD Vance is the next best thing?
Oh wait… yep you’re fucked america
Well yeah, JD is great. He did things like… Gang up on Zelensky, so he’s got the general Maga crowd s vote and he killed the pope, so now he’s got the entire non-catholic Christian vote. Pretty solid.
I want to know what’s happening quietly while everybody’s all consumed with the ego drama.
We still have the big bogus bill….
It was inevitable. Two egos as big as theirs cannot coexist in close proximity indefinitely.
I was a psychologist until I got burned out.
During that time I observed something countless times that is counter-intuitive but in my anecdotal experience reliably true:
Narcissists like eachother and seem to bond effortlessly. “you’re the best thing ever? Holy shit, I’m the best thing ever! We’re so amazing it’s awesome!” type thing. It’s fascinating.
That’s why I’m not going to be played by this. Elon and Donald both have something significant to gain by pretending to “break up with” Each other, Elon trying to detoxify his brand especially internationally and Donald by proving he isn’t Elon’s bitchboy.
They might be legitimately warring in public, they might be playing the media and the people, there’s really no way for outside parties to know at this time, and I wish people would pay more attention to the people Trump is hurting than this ultimately pointless real or not catfight. Invoking Epstein is low hanging fruit, as anyone who isn’t in Trump’s cult and paying any attention has been aware Trump is an Epstein pedo for years and years.
My theory is they want it to impact Tesla stock negatively, then magically over the weekend or at some point, they kiss and make up and the EV credit gets added back into the bill and they profit massively from buying the dip.
It’s actually very possible, but only if it’s two large and healthy egos.
Theirs are anything but healthy
He’s trying to distance himself because his company is burning and is using the media. Musk’s playbook is to attention and boost himself like posting about dogecoin. Musk is using the media, but his Nazi views hasn’t changed.
But they did impeach him, Leon. Multiple times. The trouble is he just ignores it.
Maybe this time a strongly worded reprimand would do the trick.
Impeached from the House sets up for conviction from the Senate. We need all of Congress to go through for it to have any effect.
He ignores it because 95% of Republicans don’t care about crimes, just the party.
Is there anything more Pride Month than Conservatives having to watch their two daddies fight?
I know I’m feeling proud the Tesla brand took such a nosedive
I wonder if Musk will get the Jack Ma treatment or if Trump is a weak baby leader that isn’t as strong as Xi. Imagine the Republican party being weaker than the CCP.
I think they’re both right. The government should cut all ties with Musk’s businesses, and Trump should be impeached. That way everybody wins.
Billionaires :What do you mean!? That’s horrible (for us)
It hurts to agree with them doesn’t it? Yet, it’s so funny to watch them bite at each other.
Can you impeach vice presidents?
I think Elon did good work at DOGE and given his correct response to the egregious 3.8 trillion dollar budge bill, I think Elon would actually do a better job as president than Trump.
I know I’ll be downvoted to hell, but I have to say it. Elon is the better administrator between the two of them.
I’m not gonna downvote you for expressing an opinion I don’t agree with, and I’m sorry other people are - we need views from all perspectives if lemmy is not too become an echo chamber.
But I think Elon did terrible work at doge. Even if you think smaller government is better, it has to be reached by a planned and controlled downsizing - not just by hack n slash random cuts of stuff they dislike.
I agree that Elon is probably the better administrator, but that’s kinda like saying a pig is smarter than a chicken. You wouldn’t want either of them in charge.
What years of having to choose between shit presidential candidates does to a mf
They’re both nepo-baby dipshits and you’re an infantile knuckle-dragger
I also totally disagree with the comment, but let’s not do insults eh?
Just responding in kind to OP’s insulting comment
It wasn’t insulting? I mean I totally disagree with OP’s perspective, and I kinda feel like there has to be something wrong with anyone who actively supports either musk or trump - but I think it’s good to have different opinions on here, otherwise we’d just all be agreeing with each other and it would be fuckin boring!
Holy shit that’s the most idiotic hot take I’ve seen yet.
The damage that dipshit caused to the federal government may be irrecoverable. I’m sure you think that’s a good thing but the people he got rid of were the people who’s job it was to investigate when someone like PG&E dumps chemicals in to the drinking water or when insurance companies just blanket deny claims.
He wants, and did his best to create rich people anarchy.
Not only that but he violated union contracts and a handful of laws to do it. Half the people he tried to fire have already been hired back. The government is going to have to pay back all the wages and may be liable for other damages too. In his profoundly illegal and unethical attempt to deregulate himself, he actually cost you money. He made services you need and rely on every day whether you think you do or not, harder and more expensive to access.
You will be subsidizing this moron’s purge for the rest of your life.
Only if he first gives away all his assets.
But then we wound just see how incompetent is without capital/money to do the work for him. Even decide for him what work needs to be done.
Otherwise … You know, 18h refine regular shifts instead of 8, tax cuts for the rich, competition bashing, building monopolies, selling to the highest bidder, etc.
It’s pretty all out and clear, the what & what nots I mean.
Do you know how much time and money is going into scrubbing and replacing every computer system he broke into is going to cost?!
Are you a moron?
Like saying a werewolf is better than a vampire because they are only active three nights a month…
Wait, didn’t they have a whole franchise abut this?
(Idk, I’m not into soapy teen fantasy drama.)All I remember from the memes is that one sparklers in sunlight (I guess vampires).
It’s a fantasy and every writer gets to pick their own rules.
