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I buy stuff that lasts. For bread, I find that rye takes weeks longer than white or wheat to start going bad, and bagels last ages too. I make smoothies with mostly frozen fruit. For dinner stuff, if I’m not feeling like cooking I either buy things I’m going to eat in the next few days or I get these sealed precooked things from Aldi that are great and keep well. Coconut milk also tends to keep better than cow milk and lately I’ve realized I greatly prefer it.
About the only things that are super perishable that I keep around are bananas and avocados, and I just tend to eat these a lot. I also keep spinach or kale around for my smoothies, but I rebag them into separate smaller bags as soon as I get them. If my bananas are getting overripe, they get frozen for smoothies.
I also tend to buy canned soups, which last ages.
When I was cooking regularly I’d make a lot of chilis and pasta sauces. They’re good to freeze and they keep well on their own. Chili is arguably better after freezing and having more time to develop.
You can definitely eat pretty healthy and keep plenty of food in the house without constantly chasing waste.
Accept that you won’t make the food and just buy fast food instead of both. It isn’t as good as cooking yourself, but it will cost less overall.
There’s a middle ground that I think a lot of people miss, and that played an important role in me eating out less.
You can buy things like frozen dumplings, frozen pre-cooked chicken, etc… This isn’t going to be as cost efficient as making from scratch, but it’s wayyyy better than eating out all the time.
I’ve been learning to cook by weaning myself off of ordering out, to frozen pre-cooked stuff (that you should never grow 100% out of, my god dumplings freeze so well), to scratch.
An important dubstep of that has been taking something like pre-cooked dumplings with a homemade soup. It’s like buying level2 ingredients, something a little closer to human readable.
Sorry this edible just kicked in, I think I got lost in the metaphor in that last paragraph.
I like dubstep too but I’m trying to figure out what word was supposed to be in “An important dubstep of that,” unless there’s some alternate meaning I’m unfamiliar with.
And to add to what you said here, check out the meal services that send you fresh ingredients to cook a meal. Find one that has a discount for getting started or whatnot. Don’t feel compelled to buy last the discount period or whatever, but it can be a nice way to familiarize yourself with cooking without worrying about compiling ingredients. I’m pretty happy with my kitchen prowess, and with our assortment of spices and whatnot, but there’s still times when I look up a recipe and it’s like, huh, I don’t have that one ingredient and it’s a big deal. The meal kits avoid that altogether.
Solution: freezer. I basically never have food go off because basically all of it is either frozen or non perishable.
I have a bad habit where I stop feeling bad about not eating the food once it’s in the freezer, and then it doesn’t come out until I’m cleaning months later. And then all of my Tupperware is in the freezer.
Yeah …
Strategies against this include cooking for several people (well, that ain’t happening), doing meal prep several days in advance / cooking larger portions that you can eat over a couple of days, and buying frozen ingredients (still better than buying entire frozen meals). Some non-frozen ingredients keep for a long time, too, e.g. dried rice or noodles, onions, pickled vegetables.
100% the longterm ingredients. I have an emergency meal which is just rice, frozen peas and carrots, and crushed cashews. I probably have green onion and definitely have numerous sauces available, too.
Your emergency meal sounds healthier than most of my regular meals, lol! It’s usually just fries, zucchini and some kind of frozen meat or fish (all baked). Fresh zucchini probably doesn’t last long enough for OP’s needs, but it does last really long for fresh produce. Though part of it is that I kind of follow FODMAP so onions and legumes are out for me.
Not sure what FODMAP is. Regardless, if it works for you it’s pretty much always better to eat something than go hungry, and really if baked fries are the only “negative” there I mean how bad is it really? And it’s not like I don’t ever eat fries.
Something that worked for me is always shopping for a specific meal. Instead of buying ground beef because I might want burgers or tacos or chili, I instead buy everything for a chili. It’s lead to less “oh I forgot I had this beef in here” and more “I better use this nice, fresh beef to make chili because otherwise I’ll go hungry.
It’s not a perfect system, and seems really obvious in hindsight, but has been a paradigm shift for me.
This, I typically make a stir fry or something that will last a long time for me
I do a mix of this with food prep. I’ll buy a bunch of ground beef and make a bunch of burger patties, and freeze the ones that I’m not using right away since I can pull them individually out of the freezer and throw them straight onto the grill or into a pan. Or I’ll buy the stuff for a big stir fry and then have leftovers for like 3 other meals.
I like making a chili and freezing the left overs in an icecube tray, then piping them out and storing the chili cubes in the freezer. Like, it will basically last forever in the freezer, and this way it’s pre portioned and I can just nuke how ever much I want at some indeterminant time in the future.
Works well with any similar kind of sauce.
Ice cubes of chili? Either I eat way to much or you are very much more behaved with portion control and eating several times a day.
I’m pro one meal, eat until full… fast till I pick them at one time to eat the next day. Then again if I made chili I’d put garlic onions in pot bottom first the meats to brown, then all other ingredients. Cook it all in one pot then when done eating out the pot in the fridge on a heat mat. Eat the same thing until it’s gone.Which would usually only take a 2-3 days.
Having someone else in those and having to make other meals makes meals so much harder…
“We had that yesterday” - apparently what many other people say.
better use this nice, fresh beef to make chili because otherwise I’ll go hungry.
My issue is that I often end up choosing the “go hungry” option over the chili option
and I love chili
I think one of the tricks is to purposefully plan time to cook that’s not right before you’re planning to eat, so it’s an activity/hobby, not a necessity. If I have to cook when I’m hungry, I’ll probably just make do instead, but if I say “ok, Saturday afternoon, I’m gonna make a pot of soup, because that’ll be delicious later,” it’s a lot less dreadful, imo.
i didn’t start cooking until I got a big enough kitchen to store plates, forks, knives, spoons, glasses, cooking pans/pots&utensils, cutting boards, leftover food storage, dish towels, and food cupboards and pantry.
rentals rarely have enough for that.
but once i got enough space to have that stuff, and then saved up to buy that stuff little at a time then cooking became a lot more sensible. (middle aged bachelor)
i have recipes that i don’t have to think about that create leftovers.
And that is the goal: LEFTOVERS
Leftovers are your bread and butter of saving money and not having to cook.
Consider cooking it, then you have something to eat.
I love cooking, just can’t ever get motivated to do it
Have you considered cooking simpler dishes that require far less work?
Here’s a simple one:
- Brown one 1lbs of ground beef (takes about 10 minutes) in a skillet
- pour off the excess liquid fat (not down the drain of your sink. Put it in a container and throw it in the trash if you don’t plan to use it for another recipe_
- Add 3/4 cup of water to the meat in the skillet
- one pouch of this:
Stir the contents of the pan on and off for about 2 minutes.
You now have a 1lbs of taco meat.
Empty a bag of lettuce into a bowl. Scoop out the taco meat and put it on the lettuce.
Sprinkle cheddar cheese on top of it.
You’ve got taco salad and it took you a bit less than 15 minutes.
A couple of strategies depending on the problem you’re dealing with:
- if you don’t have time, make simple meals that minimize prep. There are cookbooks dedicated to this concept and highly recommend picking one up. “30 minutes or less” meals were a god send for me in college.
- if you don’t like the food you’re eating, explore new types of food. This is often a more expensive endeavor as it may require you to buy new spices, cookware, etc. again, cookbooks are a great help here. Most Americans eat a combination of Italian and Mexican food. Try making your own Chinese or Indian food.
- if you are lazy, consider a food prep day. I do food prep on Sundays and makes cooking through the week much faster and easier. Also helps to cook large batches that can refrigerate and reheat in the microwave or toaster oven. Make dishes that taste better with age. Chili, marinated dishes, etc. fall into this category.
- if you’re too lazy for that, then eat out and don’t cook. If you value not wasting food over your money, then this is the best choice overall. It’s the most expensive option but if you’d rather not cook and have the resources to just eat out, then do so.
Lack of motivation (assuming you’re not neurodivergent) often is a result of not having a plan or you find the activity tedious. If it’s the latter, I’d go the simple route and try to keep your cooking as easy as possible. This is essentially true if you’re new to cooking.
If it’s the former, consider meal planning. I plan my meals a week in advance, taking into account left overs I already have, left overs I’m planning on making, food I need to buy, and other factors.
If you’re neurodivergent, I’m hesitant to provide advice as I am not a doctor but I suggest talking to your therapist about it and seeing if they can help you.
If your problem is you buy ingredients but can’t be arsed to turn them into food? Resist those beautiful fresh veggies and go get the frozen bag of the same thing. Not only will it keep until you really want to cook, it’s already washed and cut, and it has all the same vitamins. Since you’re already saving money, splurge on the better brand.
Also, go ahead and get some prepared food for no-cook days that are still cheaper than delivery. If you’re inspired to cook that very day by a particular ingredient, make it a simple way, because shopping and stowing is also a whole chore.
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Sounds like you have an answer.
I finally found the answer to all problems in my life: just be motivated to do things. I’ll start tomorrow…well, next week at the latest.
Then stop buying it.
But then they have nothing to eat.
They’re not eating it either way.
But they have it
I live walking distance from 2 small super markets, I walk to those near every day and just get a few things and I also get hello fresh and I always cook those. So generally my fridge is pretty empty but I always eat well. Just in Time Home Economics you could say.
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Consider therapy or medication.
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Buy nonperishables in a higher ratio, such as canned, pickled, or dry goods.
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If you’re not concerned about your health enough to cook your own food every day, then just don’t buy food that has to be cooked every day.
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Remind yourself why you’re doing it, set a timer, and get it done. “This is for me. I love good food, I love my body.”
- Food prep. It maybe cuts down on variety but you only have to cook once. The rest of the time you’re just warming something up.
I second food prepping. If you want more variety, separate some of the prepped foods from each other so that you can mix and match.
A thing that has helped me a lot is to go buy food when I’m not hungry. It reduces my chance of overeating and buying lots of food, also making me spend less money.
When I used to cook a lot for myself in uni it helped a lot to plan meals.
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Meal planning is overwhelming to me, so I made a habit of rotating a selection of staple meals with fewer, more stable ingredients. PB or eggs scrambled with cheese on toast for a breakfast. A salad of chickpeas, carrot, broccoli and avocado with a whole-wheat roll, or a lentil/rice bowl, for lunch. Precook larger batches of freezer-friendly staples like chickpeas, lentils, rice, turkey burgers, meatloaf, tomato gravy - reserve 2-3 days’ supply and freeze portioned batches of the rest. Allow yourself less experimental ingredient buys per grocery run - so if it turns out they don’t synergize with your staples, you’re not accumuating a lot of dead-end ingredients.
Why are you buying perishable food items in bulk? Are you an inarticulate fopdoodle?
Buy empty deli containers and food prep at least half the meals for the week.
Clean up fridge on day off, note overstock and old stock
Plan meals for the week using the over/old stock.
Use the pickup service at the market instead of shopping so you don’t buy stupid things.
When you buy raw meat, cook it within two days, even if you’re just going put it back into containers, it’ll last far longer.
It’s called a freezer and lunches for the extra. Eat chicken? Batch cook that pallet- brine in about a couple of water, a bouillon cube, garlic and a bunch of salt, parsley, oregano, rosemary (to your taste), and a couple of the cheapest white wine at the grocery store if your feeling fancy or really like gravy. After a few hours or overnight, dry and throw in your oven at 400 for twenty minutes. When its out, let the chicken cool on a cutting board, slice some up and chop up the rest. You now have a baseline chicken that tastes as good as deli-quality that works well in everything from dinners, sandwiches and salads, and if you skip the rosemary, its a good stir fry addin.
Clean-up is what stops many people. Get a good titanium no-stick pan - I like “Our Place” pans. Get individual portion meats or frozen meats or buy bulk and freeze in portions. Do the same with vegetables. Heat your seasoned pan up then put some oil in just before you put meat in. Cook meat until almost done, then add vegetables to same pan - heat them up. Serve. Let pan cool while you eat. Refrigerate left-overs. Rinse and wipe pan down. Wash dish. DONE.
If you don’t have a good sized freezer, buy one. There are small ones that fit in any home.
Too many veggies? Chop them up and put them in quart sized containers. You can add them to any soup or stew.
I have a five quart pot; make chili/stew/soup and freeze in pint size containers.
My house has a good freezer, here’s the first i searched out as an example.
In my household we tend to buy just enough that we know we can eat it over the course of two to three days if it is perishable foods.
If the store sells smaller packs of meat and vegetables and other perishable foods, we buy those and use them in our cooking the next few days.
We don’t have a lot of freezer space and we don’t have a garden, so we try and avoid bulk buying unless we know we will be able to eat it all before it goes bad. It works pretty well.
