Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a New York Democrat, ripped Donald Trump for his military attack against Iran on Saturday, saying the move is “absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.”
Ocasio-Cortez ripped the president’s action on X, formerly Twitter, and wrote, “The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers. He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations. It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.”
On the other hand, Senator John Fetterman, a Pennsylvania Democrat, came to Trump’s side and wrote on X, “As I’ve long maintained, this was the correct move by @POTUS. Iran is the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism and cannot have nuclear capabilities. I’m grateful for and salute the finest military in the world.”
America and Israel are terrorist nations
Shut the fuck up, Fetterman.
Does it even matter, American government and business is soaked deep in soggy dogshit.
It’s not getting fixed by political discourse. If you’re trying to do it that way than you aren’t even playing the same game as the entity leading right now. Understand the game like mob boss and gang leaders. These politicians appear naive… We don’t live in that world anymore and probably haven’t for the past 30 years. It’s the same feeling as seeing mainstream big religious people living in a dream world.
That’s not a call for action or anything… It’s just realistic observation.
They tried this before multiple times and it achieved nothing, you’d think they’d come up with a new idea.
Cool. So since she’s a member of the house of representatives, she must have initiated proceedings for impeachment, right?
its not a good idea to introduce something in Congress if you dont have support
Can you elaborate on why? Genuine question. It seems like if the alternative is also not getting what you want, then there isn’t much to lose?
im not an expert on congressional procedure but considering that the Republicans have a majority in both the house and Senate, an impeachment vote would always fail because they would never go against trump. also, its not a great look if a representative is always introducing bills that are rejected by a vote, die in committee, or are never even put on the schedule. just think about how Bernie Sanders was dragged for not introducing enough legislation that actually passed into law during his long career.
I don’t think that matters at all… Bernie has had a very long career and his constituents never rebuked him for failing to pass legislation
What are they gonna do about it? Lawsuit? Lmao
The left can never pass up fighting a battle they’ll lose.
“He’s guilty of crimes. He should be prosecuted for those crimes.”
“You stupid idiot leftists. Don’t you realize opposing rich people never works? Just brown nose them so you can become one somebody. That’s the real ticket.”
You make progress by fighting the battles you can win. Fighting battles you can’t win is all about getting attention and accomplishing nothing.
There are twice as many NFL players on their standard rosters than there are billionaires in the U.S.
Mathematically the ~850 billionaires make up 0.00025% of the population.
The average person is about 22 times more likely to get struck by lightning than to become a billionaire.
There’s a lot of people trying that brown nosing tactic, yet don’t realize there isn’t room on the roster for infinite members, there is a fairly finite amount of funds, and for someone to move up, the money has to come from others. Roughly the net worth of 5,000 U.S. families given to one person. But in reality, the devaluing of wealth from near every individual in the U.S. so they can have it.
The US is 😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
Mussolini got dragged through the streets and him and his gf’s lifeless corpses were hung upside down for all of Rome to see.
Weird fact. Not sure why I’m thinking of it
🤔
Franco died peacefully in his sleep at the age of 83, a fabulously rich celebrity who was officially mourned by the state for a month.
Is he still dead?
According to Chevy Chase
Spain changed a lot since then thankfully
There is an old quote -
“The plight of the oppressed ends with the oppressor. Mussolini found this to be true, as will others.”
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Now THAT’s a PRIME NUMBER
Thank you for your attention to this matter
Primed & ready, you mean? That part of my math education’s a little hazy. 🙇🏼♂️
The upside of that was that it put his fellow conspiritors off trying to follow in his footsteps.
Now, I wonder if that weird fact you are thinking of can have you picturing Donald Trump being dragged through the streets with JD Vance and him and his vice president’s lifeless corpses being hung upside down for all the United States to see, in response to him giving the order to bomb Iran without congressional approval. And who here would like to see that actually happening.
It was Milan. Though I’m sure the people of Rome were more than welcome to go see his bespatted husk.
My bad thanks for clarifying!
Not at all.
I only remember because I recently watched that Ordinary Things video about him.
Only a rag would quote Fetterman and credit him as a Democrat. He doesn’t act or believe what he did when he was elected as a Democrat, his perspective is irrelevant.
I’ve watched Fetterman’s 180 from across the pond. Don’t really understand what happened and what made him flip.
They took him into a room and said “hey, do you want a mountain of legal bribes? If not, we will primary you with that same mountain”
He had a stroke that damaged his brain.
Stop spreading that. It’s not true.
Fetterman was a shitty mayor before his current office. He chased after a blackman with a shotgun because the guy was simply jogging in his neighborhood. He vandalized local business in the middle of the night that he didn’t like.He firmly stated he was not progressive during his run for office. The Republicans labeled him a progressive librel to try and smear him. He was never progressive, ever. The stroke did not change his views. He is and always was a slimy politician .
So, I like this idea, and the recent expose indicates that the stroke has essentially rendered him non compis mentis, but do you really think the brain damage turned him conservative? Were there no red flags before? I genuinely don’t know enough about the guy.
There were definitely red flags before, it’s just that people ignored them because he was better than Dr. Oz. There’s a good Some More News video that goes into it.
Israel is quite literally the world’s biggest terrorist nation state. The paper thin transparent spin tactics of Israel’s defenders would be amusing if the results of its terrorism wasn’t so horrifying.
I’m not sure it’s Israel, but they and the USA are vying for that spot.
Kendrick Lamar “It’s not enough.” I want him removed and charged for all the harm and civil rights violations and war crimes. No President has ever been held accountable, So you can start with him.
Nixon was. They could have impeached Clinton for Bosnia, but went with lying about adultery.
They could have impeached Clinton for Bosnia
Why? Forgive my ignorance, balkan history is hard.
He violated both UN and NATO charters, iirc. Imo, intervention was necessary, because the Serbs were ethnically cleansing the Croats and Muslims, and Western Europe was dragging feet, but he violated the law and badly mishandled the intervention.
I don’t know for certain, but I think you might be mixing up Kosovo and Bosnia. Because I know he illegally (by international law) bombed Yugoslavia for the Kossovar Albanians (which some argue hastened and exacerbated the ethnic cleansing of the Albanians, which aligns quite well with the timeline, especially considering there was a concrete diplomatic alternatice proposed by both sides), but he got approval for this. Famously, Bernie Sanders voted in favor. So while it should earn him a trip to the Hague, he didn’t violate any domestic laws that I’m aware of.
But again, Yugoslavia in the 90s is crazy complicated, and there’s so much I don’t know, so maybe I’m just completely wrong here.
I think it depends. If Iran can be tenuously linked to AlQuaeda, then it’s legal.
I think it depends. If Iran can be tenuously linked to AlQuaeda, then it’s legal.
Eh… We know that Iran was harbored AlQaeda, wouldn’t be hard to claim that they’re still doing it. I bring this up from time to time… While I was deployed to Jalalabad, we never had issues with the locals. Everyone that ever bombed that FOB while I was there was coming over the Iranian border and mortaring us from the mountains, then retreating back to Iran.
Sometimes we could get air assets up quickly enough to handle them before they got back to the Iranian border. But we couldn’t follow them into Iran. Many… many requests were made to Iran to stop this. Didn’t stop until the base was closed down due to the pull out.
clearly grounds for impeachment
…add it to the pile, I guess.
But considering that impeachment is a legal process and that the current administration has zero respect for or inclination to follow the law, it’s not like it’ll accomplish shit. Dude needs to be deposed by those who have sworn to defend the constitution from domestic threats (the military) not run through some formal process.
Impeachment is specifically NOT a legal process but a political one. Trump’s second impeachment acquittal was based on impeachment being a political process, and that the criminal justice system was the correct venue for J6.
That’s also why the Justice department policy on not charging a sitting president and the SCOTUS ruling that Presidents are immune from prosecution are bullshit.
I mean, in practice, I guess yeah. On paper, it’s initiated by a political process, but ultimately it’s a criminal investigation. The acquittal was due to the process being wrongfully politicized. In a system that actually followed its own rules, he’d have been indicted and imprisoned for the crimes he’s committed against the US.
The system we have will, at best, put on a dog-and-pony show, call it “impeachment”, and try to pass that off as actual justice like it did last time.
Like Obama’s action against Libya? 🤔
Look, I don’t like Trump either, but this is the same bullshit threat Republicans dropped when Obama was President.
Wasn’t right then, and isn’t right now.
Agreed. Except Netanyahu, a genocidal prick pulling the puppet strings of the White House for years, didn’t goad Obama into that. Obama made that terrible decision alone.
Trump is a manbaby who’s easily manipulated.
How do you know who influenced Obama’s decisions?
We’d have to prove that Trump was inappropriately influenced by an outside power before I support impeachment. Even though my gut tells me he probably traded bombs for a bucket of fried chicken…
Really? Even though he blatantly defied the constitution and attacked a foreign state out of nowhere without approval? That isn’t enough, he also needs to be stupid and easily manipulated (which he obviously is based on the mountains of evidence) before you want to hold him accountable?
Go fuck yourself.
I will go fuck myself. But let’s be fair. Clinton and Obama both dropped bombs(Obama did it theu drone strikes) on Iraq and other places like Yeman. Must be realistic about what “impeachable offenses” are and since “official acts” are off the table for presidential prosecution we should look to see if an act was “unofficial” i.e. illegal.
Fuck your red herring. They should’ve been punished too. Continue to go fuck yourself.
Well, I truly believe Trump is evil and should be impeached and thrown of out office, I just don’t think it will be for this unless an inside can provide proof that Trump did it for reasons, “OTHER Than self defense”, it’s just too easy for our Presidents to say, “I felt like Iran was a threat that constituted an emergency and then decided to act in order to protect America.”.
Over all, we’ve just given the PResident far too much power.
And I agree with your previous statement, he should have had authorization from somewhere, like a defense subcommittee or joint congressional/bi-partisan panel. This is something we should probably fix for the future…
If Congress wants the power to declare war back they need to repeal the war powers act.
I’m a bit confused. Isn’t the War Powers Act what gives congress the power to declare war, and the president can only do so if the US is DIRECTLY attacked? Someone more educated in US constitutional acts please correct me if I’m wrong, I know post-9/11 a lot of stuff got…“suspended in times of need”.
The war powers act makes it lawful for a president to take military action against any country, provided Congress is notified within 48 hours of that action. Then a president gets 60 days + 30 “withdrawal” to wage any war they want without congressional approval. Furthermore it’s been ruled violations are basically irrelevant if troops are gone before the matter gets to the supreme court.
Clinton and Obama both violated this law with 0 consequences. Trump might also violate the law, but we won’t know for 90 days.
This is the right answer. Trump is absolutely a piece of garbage, and I think he was wrong for attacking Iran, but at this point I don’t think he’s broken any laws by attacking Iran.
I see, thank you for the explanation! I only learned about it in school within the context of Nixon and Vietnam during history class.
