• Bieren@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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    It’s Google. If you are shocked by this, you deserve to be tracked.

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      That’s simply not true. People can’t be expected to know what’s going on under the hood of services designed specifically to simplify things for non-technical users and conceal what’s under the hood.

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        Then don’t allow them to use those services without a license. It’s cars or chemicals all over again.

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          Are people required to know how their car works?

          Do people have to understand chemistry to buy gasoline or mercury thermometers?

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      That’s called victim blaming.

      But yeah. I really hope people stop using Google products. Google is evil.

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        To be fair it is in this case the victims is more at fault then not for misusing, misunderstanding and not reading the terms of service or explicate use case.

        Like this would be like getting mad at your doctor for keeping notes over you and sharing them with other doctors. But not your random friends or strangers.

        Incognito mode has said it’s always been local privacy only not that it doesn’t track or record you, nor prevents others from doing so.

        It’s just turning off history basically.

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      No, not really. There are low bars; this isn’t one of them. This is not something I expect average people who aren’t into technology to anticipate. Nerds like me, yeah. But not the public. Though we’re getting to that point.

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    Incognito was literally only good for opening a second session without you logged in. It did zero for privacy. Even their disclaimer said so.

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    I don’t believe for a second that they are actually going to delete any data they stole from users.

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      To be fair nothing was stolen, the lawyers even admitted as much.

      This is a user error problem caused by the moron in a hurry problem.

      The warning on incognito mode both before and after the change was very explicit that it was local only. It was intended for people sharing a computer, not for privacy to anything you searched, external websites, etc

      Below the warning even had examples over exactly what was and was not saved with it explicitly saying that external websites would be able to track and save your data including Google.

      The change was to add that warning list to the initial warning itself because Google had assumed people would read the entire page. They did not.

      Which means that those morons in a hurry who only skimmed misunderstood what incognito mode was for. Did not read the use case, the warning, the TOs, the manual, or any other information provided both explicitly or implicitly.

      Hell even parted the argument of the lawyers was that this is a user issue and that Google had a responsibility to prevent people who were ignorant or in a hurry from misunderstanding. And while they made a good faith effort, it could have been better. Google being the large company is taking the fall for this more than anything but it is at the end of the day a user issue.

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      Of course they will! First you make a copy, then you delete the copy. Contractual terms satisfied.

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      The raw data might be purged but no one talks about the ML modal that google trained with that data.

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      Doesn’t it specifically say on a new incognito tab that this doesn’t protect against sites or service providers from gathering information…and only stops you from storing local information (history, cookies, etc)? Do people actually think that incognito is adding privacy protection?

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        That was actually a result of this issue, where Google placed misleading statements in incognito and then proceeded to actively go around them.

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        Maybe I read it wrong but (to me) the meme makes it sound like Google’s taking the local data (that’s supposed to be forgotten, once you close the browser window) and sending it over to Google for them to, I dunno, run analysis on.

        If they’re saying that Google sites (like YouTube, Google search, etc.) were collecting data when I visit them (as, unfortunately, sites do), then I’d say, “Well, duh;” but this makes it seem like they were exporting your local data off to their cloud which, like, they could obviously, technically do but wouldn’t very much be in the spirit of how Incognito mode was portrayed.

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      and i’m pretty sure the browsers have been quite explicit about this for a long time now, but of course no one bothers to read “This won’t change how data is collected by websites you visit and the services they use, including Google.”

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        It’s as far as I remember literally always said it’s basically just turning off local history, and not for true privacy. The wording has changed over the years and frankly only become more explicated and clear about that fact.

        This is a rare case of google NOT being the problem here. People are misusing a tool that has always been honest about itself.

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      Wouldn’t that be amazing! I have single frames of good videos stuck in my head that I can never find again.

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    If you care about your privacy, don’t use products from a company whose entire business model is built on invading your privacy.

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    Naming it incognito was a mistake. It was always clear to me all incognito is, is a non persistent container to keep your browsing data separate from your regular browsing data. All its hiding is your porn browsing habits from your mom. But of course, the name implies much more.

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    So this is why the weird shite I look up in incognito comes up when I search something without incognito mode.

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    Wait… people actually think that incognito means that they don’t record your searches??

    I thought everybody knew that all incognito does is preventing your searches from showing up in your search history.

    Did anyone actually think that these big tech companies would willingly give you an option to keep your searches private from them?

    Hello???

    Always assume that everything you do online is being recorded and seen by someone. Unless you’re a master computer wiz or whatever the fuck they call it these days, ALWAYS ASSUME YOUR ACTIVITY ONLINE IS PUBLIC.

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      This is the consequence of wrapping everything in glossy plastics and dumbed down UI for decades. People don’t want to learn, and even if they do it’s all hidden away behind blobs and bloats.

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    Things do the opposite of what their name says they do. We’ve been in 1984/F451 bizarro world for a while, now.