Just do what we do in Canada. Send them threatening letters. It scares 90% of parents into telling their kids to knock that shit off, but they’re toothless and can’t actually do anything, and the remaining 10% still pirate away. Everyone’s happy.
ISPs already do that here in the states. The court case is to decide whether they should shut off access.
I believe ISPs do not want to cut people off. All that does is push you to a competitor. They want to be able to hold you liable for damages
Pirate everything, death to the capitalists.
Get to the point that you don’t want their products. Consuming their stuff at all is like sporting brand name cloths and covering the logo.
Once you do this you will find you don’t need most of it and it’s just a waste of time anyway. The stuff that is authentic and that you genuinely need you can support.
It’s honestly like quitting drugs.
Dude - this is the truth. Thanks for giving me something to work towards.
According to the article this is the USA. How on brand.
Here i am again doing my duty https://mullvad.net/en/why-privacy-matters
Protip for anyone unfamiliar: Mullvad really is the gold standard for a private VPN. If you just want to pirate shit and not get angry letters from your ISP, Nord or PIA will accomplish that. But if you REALLY want privacy, Mullvad is it.
Idk why but the simplicity of it has me convinced and so far it works well.
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I personally prefer Proton. They seem to get blocked less often.
(And yes I’m aware of the CEO controversy, he seems more like a Libertarian to me, not some right wing extremist)
That mask almost fell but he’ll make sure it doesn’t slip again
We all wear masks
I’m not a judge, but isn’t internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.
This would be the case had net neutrality not been killed off nearly a decade ago
Net neutrality is why your online jokes were censored under Biden
– John McRacist, Republican congressman, former CFO of Evil Inc., former lawyer of Vile Ltd., member of Christofascism Society and Roman Salutes to Jesus
more importantly because of accused. Just accused.
I’m some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.
Cut off for sharing, or cut off for running illegal/unsafe/unlicensed wiring and plumbing connections?
For straight up running a hose or an extension cord so they’re not completely doa.
Inb4 palantir cuts off your electric and water because you had 15% eye distraction during the mandatory 3hr nightly fox news viewing.
bottle water companies would love this, as would the oil giants
Not even piracy. Accusations thereof.
accused piracy, too. Not proven. Not convicted. Just “pirate go bye bye.”
I’m not a United Statesian so I have no clue anymore how it works there, but other places have been making the case that the Internet is an essential service and that access to it is a basic right. So to leapfrog off your question, is that like a poor person stealing a loaf of bread being cut off from food because they didn’t food responsibly enough?
didn’t many European countries remove People’s hand for theft a few centuries ago?
Unfortunately the country I was born in, the USA, is also one that voted against the international resolution to define food as a human right. 😕
I’m pretty sure this supreme court would rule that people don’t have a right to electricity, or even water. They’ll probably be totally ok with people losing internet access as punishment for crossing media owners.
or even water
We never stopped the “lol treaties with Native American tribes don’t count” bullshit.
to be fair the treaty never specified anything about water, and the Navajo nations should have had better lawyers or better guerilla warfare tactics if they wanted more negotiating power.
Besides your point but this is the aspect about Gorsuch that I can’t seem to make internally consistent. He almost always rules in terms of native rights – even when, I think, it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle – yet is more than happy to rule as a conservative on all other times and support “industry” and big business (even when it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle).
I know that nothing necessitates a person to act logically and most act from emotion, more than anything, but most people, I find, have a relative reason they think they’re being logically consistent but I can’t seem to suss even that out, with regards to him.
They could even be totally innocent, the mere accusation is enough, wtf?
Due process seems to just be a recommendation.
Recommendation???
No.
It’s a luxury you can try but only if you can afford it.
USCIS can deport a non-citizen for accusations of drug use, including weed.
Let that sink in.
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That sink is a vampire, don’t let it in
They will cut off electricity if you do something illegal with it…
Pragmatically, yes. Legally, no. Progressives have been fighting for years to get internet classified as a utility in the US, and regressives and (ironically) internet companies have been fighting against that effort at every turn in the name of profit.
And now look how well that’s turned out. Gee, if only some people had warned them that deregulation was a monkey’s paw…
I’m not doing piracy, I’m just trading a lot of data packets with a Proton Server in Switzerland, nothing to see here 😉
This is actually why I usually install a VPS in whichever country I’m physically in—my end devices always appear to be connecting to something innocent in-country (like a corporate VPN). That VPS then does the double-hop out of the country so that the VPS also seems pretty innocent too.
I don’t think it’s actually more secure though since the VPS is in my name and it’s technically decrypting everything. But I’m a bit less paranoid about that. (I’m not doing tons of illegal shit anyway.)
Look at it this way. Who would you rather risk pissing off, your ISP or a VSP Hosting company?
put the qbittorrent-wireguard container on the vps.
It’s like trading cards, gotta trade em all!
Being accused of will lose you access to basic infrastructure? Why not cut electricity too?
give it a few months, they’re working up to it.
Don’t give them ideas. Next they’ll cut the blood stream to your brain.
Supreme Court: “One of us! One of us!”
Pretty sure they’ve already done that by not regulating social media better
Guess it’s time to go underground, sigh.
You should already be underground
Instructions unclear, now sitting in basement.
The unproven claims is the key part here. Also the point of “terminating an account would punish every user in a household” is important as well.
You can fine someone for piracy if you want. As long as they have the standard legal protections. But cutting access is excessive.
So if Meta is convicted of pirating books for AI training, they lose all internet connectivity? 🧐
God willing
dint they just rule AI can legally scrape/books, but not for people who are pirating directly.
IIRC the judge said they could use the data for training, but specifically added that piracy is still piracy and he didn’t rule on that.
So Disney can just sue Meta for one trillion 😀
so then individuals could just train a model locally on the shittiest hardware they have
The US is such a silly place. Everything is so wrong.
I’m not doing piracy, I am merely training my AI!
The recent judgement did not, in fact, say that pirating was legal if you use the pirated material to train AI.
Call me when all these LLM get their internet cut off then.
We are going to end up with a super private and encrypted Internet because of it.
Good.
Accused???
Well alrighty then, I hereby accuse the operators of donaldjtrump.com of piracy! Anybody else notice any piratical activity? Foxnews.com seems pretty fishy.
And OpenAI of course.
But it’s not piracy if you use it for an LLM, right‽
Yes we are all training our LLMs. Perfectly legal.
Thanks for reminding me that I need to go train my LLM on the new season of Yellowjackets
What about legitimate torrented content? Are they going to outlaw the technology outright? Don’t plenty of legitimate downloads use torrents to speed up software updates and such?
Yes. I share like 100+ Linux distros via torrents.
A load of game patchers use torrent tech to improve speeds. Lots of gamers torrent with out even realizing it
Hell, windows itself does it.
The mere accusation causing someone to lose the Internet, which is vital to modern life, would be insane.
Additionally, it would do little to nothing to stop piracy.
they actually do think that if you stop piracy people will flock back to streaming services when in reality all that will happen is i’ll just watch more twitch.
You wouldn’t be able to access twitch. You’d have to buy cable TV or an antenna for the free channels. Either way media wins via commercials.
I just watch free shit like Tubi, Pluto, Roku, YouTube, Vimeo, Peertube, DailyMotion, etc.
i’d just go to a local fast food resturant and bring my portable piracy machine
i imagine you in a mcdonalds with an 80’s era easy bake oven plugged into an outlet in a booth with a sign saying “free cookies.”
Then they’ll lobby against public WiFi. I was in China recently and (depending on the province) you need a phone number to access public WiFi so that they know who you are.
I hope that this doesn’t come to the US. Even now, a lot of the available Wifi hotspots are from cable companies (which require their account logins, so they definitely will know who you are).
Would giving a throwaway VOIP number that’s untraceable to someone fool that kind of service, I wonder? Unless caught right away, they would probably have to get their identity on an individual basis.
In China there is no such thing as a throwaway number (at least outside of black markets). All numbers require ID to acquire.
For the US it would be a bit different. VOIP numbers do exist but they are often also blocked by services (this isn’t black and white but there are services that will quite accurately map numbers into ranges like home/cell/business/VoIP).
But of course the assumption would be that if they start requiring phone numbers for WiFi access the logical next step would be to make all numbers traceable to humans.
