• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    Again, that is literally not what I’m saying, and at this point you seem to be arguing with a strawman. I’m not anti-harm reduction; I simply believe that the efficacy of harm reduction is predicated on effective action that simply does not exist at present.

    Except your entire argument here is positing that harm reduction is worthless because it doesn’t serve the long-term goals you see as necessary fast enough.

    What I’m calling for is for the left to shift gears to direct action to coerce the system into getting its shit in order.

    And reminding everyone that harm reduction under current circumstances is pointless, don’t forget.

    Also vote for the less shitty candidate, but that shouldn’t be where you put all or even most of your energy, because losing that particular bet is a mathematical certainty.

    … losing elections is a mathematical certainty?

    Yes, there’s a reason I called it cannibalism.

    Because… progressives made campaigns, and largely, simultaneously, supported the Dem candidate…?

    See? This is exactly what I’m talking about. Biden 2024 wasn’t an outlier in an otherwise sane political climate; that shit was the new post-2016 normal.

    Okay? What the ever-loving fuck does that have to do with ensuring Biden in 2024 didn’t lose, because his opponent was a literal fascist?

    “He wasn’t giving us a long-term strategy for victory, so fuck your anti-fascist coalition!”

    This is the doomer equivalent of accelerationism.

    Any credible strategy needed to provide a path to victory through that new normal within a decade (more realistically five years, but eh) without letting fascists win in the meantime. So-called harm reduction focuses so much on the latter that it does nothing substantial to address the former.

    “I wonder why these people are so worried about not dying of thirst today??? Don’t they know that they haven’t fixed the problems in water supply over the next decade???”

    If only we worried less about dying of thirst today. Such short-term thinking!

    Looking forward to it ;).

    Unsurprising. The lives of marginalized groups don’t matter if they’re insufficiently ideologically pure. I guess I was too interested in not dying because of a fuckwad fascist administration.

    American Hitler wasn’t winning elections in 1950 so… no?

    Oh, sorry, so you prefer 1896 or 1912 or 1968 or 1980 for your narrative of “America was going to fall forever to fascism in ten years, and there’s nothing these silly ‘harm reducers’ can do about it”?

    Okay it’s starting to feel like you’re scanning my responses for keywords rather than actually reading what I’m saying.

    Your entire fucking point is predicated on the idea that fascism is inevitable because change wasn’t happening fast enough, so harm reduction was functional worthless to pursue. I am absolutely reading what you’re saying; the problem is you aren’t following the logical conclusions of what you yourself are saying.