• Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Bernie is pointing out one of the major flaws of the Democratic Party and he is way ahead of his time in regard to US politics. Can you imagine if the USA would look at itself like Norway.

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      An oil producing enthostate governed by a neoliberal plutocracy?

      I think we already tried that under Bush, Obama, and Biden.

    • rafoix@lemmy.zip
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      Centrist? She campaigned with Cheney. That’s right wing.

      She was at the center between fascism and conservatism.

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      She did that in 2020…

      There was only a very very brief window she pretended to be slightly progressive, but it was an act everyone saw thru, and the dumbasses that were running the party till this year just threw her with Biden because they legitimately thought Black woman equals progressive vote.

      Everyone held their noses for Biden because he was the only option, so they just tried to double down on it. It’s what happens when a party is corrupt, the people who rise to the top are the ones willing to do anything for donations, because that was the sole metric the old guard cared about.

      If you could raise money for their shitty candidate, you got promoted. So we ended up with over a billion dollar campaign that was almost certainly a grift and a complete waste of money from state parties that handed trump the House.

      Now, all that being said…

      The voting members of the DNC did finally wake up and elected a chair who wouldn’t fight against the party’s own base. Martin ran Minnesota for a decade, made it solid blue, and home to some of our most progressive politicians and highschool football coach Tim Walz as governor.

      If he’s a neoliberal bought off by billionaires and AIPAC, then he’s absolute dog shit at stopping progressives in primaries, and it’s completely illogical that he kept supporting them in the general.

      We got an equal playing field for the first time since the 90s.

      We just need to get people to show up in the primary. We can’t fucking waste this chance.

  • Plurrbear@lemmy.world
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    Duh! That’s why we need a new political side, not left, not right, NEW! Because we need to drain the swamp, enter set terms and get the dinos out! Boomers votes are dwindling and now they are about to see the shift, first with NYC mayor and many other midterms to follow! LET US CHANGE! NO FUCKING KINGS!

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    …. She would have been another bandaid. Just like Biden was. Out of everything that’s happening right now, why is this making the news?

    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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      This is the liberal media distraction from the Trump Epstein files. It gives us anything to read about that isn’t one of the 4 major dictators. Xi, Putin, Trump, or Netanyahu. Also allows the liberals to further balkanize into even smaller groups.

  • proctor1432@lemmy.world
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    I mean, he’s correct in that both political parties have been bought and paid for by large corporations for a long time. This shouldn’t be news, it should be plainly obvious by now.

    One party is openly hostile towards the average citizen. The other puts on a friendly mask for the public but is also hostile towards the average citizen. None of them actually give a fuck about the average person. Trump is exceptionally arrogant and aggressive with his goals, but I promise he is far from the first person to have such goals or to exploit the government system for personal gain. He is the first to be so obvious about it, but it has been happening for decades, hidden under the guise of ‘security’ and other buzz words.

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      The news isn’t that the Democratic party is bought and paid for by the oligarchy. The news is that Bernie has stopped playing nice with the DNC.

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        Thank you for that take; this is the important part. Now I’d like him to get mean, please.

        Without organized labor parties to call for strikes or make demands we are really stuck waiting for somebody famous (and who we trust) to say what needs to be said, and organize what needs to be organized. And it needs to happen soon. In Bernie we could trust.

  • iceagec0mmie@lemmy.org
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    and he’s a zionist shill that doesn’t really have a position to stand on either. calling him progressive when he’s a liberal zionist is absolutely batshit.

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      Bernie, Jon Stewart and some other Jewish people condemned what’s going on in Palestine and does not support killing kids. Can you back your story? Maybe there’s something I don’t know. Now most normal people of empathy does not support what Hamas did to innocent Jews, same as the zionist are doing to innocent Palestinians and West Bank on a greater scale as an excuse to sieze more land.

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        Starting on February 21st, 2025, he set off on the “Fighting Olligarchy Tour” with the other pathetic liberal zionist where he stated that Isntreal has a right to exist. He received criticism and yet still removed and silenced Pro-Palestinian protestors from his rallies. His exact statement from the rally:

        “Israel, like any other country, has the right to defend itself from terrorism, but it does not have the right to wage all out war against the Palestinian people”

        The only terrorists are the settlers occupying that land and for him to allude to Hamas being a terrorist organization is just more proof of his ignorance. An indigenous resistance group is NOT a terrorist when they’re trying to liberate themselves from the terrorist settlers that are trying to genocide them.

        Not only does he actively defend Isntreal’s right to exist but he has also been called out for his voting record. Especially his vote to confirm Marco Rubio. As an indigenous person, that settler is nothing more than another pale face devil that pretends to act like some white savior when in fact the language he uses is actively causing harm to society.

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        Bernie Sanders has literally said that Isntreal has a right to exist and defends its status as a state. No state has the right to exist. That pale face poser actively shuts down pro-Palestinian voices at his rallies and talks, ignores the criticism on how he speaks about the genocide, all while protecting his precious Isntreal.

  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    Bernie Sanders bent the knee to the same oligarchs in 2016.

    Every day he fails to support the creation of a leftist party he continues to be complicit.

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      there are way too many liberals in this thread down voting us for speaking the truth. Bernie is just another pathetic liberal zionist.

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        Look at the “wins” that the Democrats have achieved:

        • Bombing children
        • Torturing innocent people
        • Removing highly-popular social programs
        • Increasing funding to the military and intelligence agencies
        • Deprortations without due process
        • Increasing funding to the police
        • Handing the election to Trump
        • Fighting against healthcare for all
        • Giving taxes to their rich friends
        • Backing a genocide
        • Keeping their friends out of prison

        And yet, some people can’t figure out why we don’t want Bernie to keep supporting the Dems.

      • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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        I feel like I was pretty fucking clear.

        He has spent too long with the DNC, he’s been compromising so long he can’t phathom any leftist policies or canidates actually passing, including himself in 2016.

        He supports the dying ideology of Neoliberalism out of habit, and it’s sad he’s the moat famous progressive that is allowed to exist in this country.

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          You were not clear at all. Citations needed, Actual evidence. You used some “political buzzwords” with no real substance behind them.

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            Yeah you don’t get to demand an answer like a little bitch AND then ignore it.

            Neoliberals being incapable of engaging with reality is part of the problem here so thanks for being an example.

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      We don’t actually need the files to eject the occupant of the whitehouse from that residence. I mean, We The People are in charge. We just have to decide to do it.

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            You don’t have the local lumber, the Chinese steel, or the skilled labor to build them in the first place, is what I’m saying.

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              Ya I don’t have the intention to reduce suffering and a shotgun costs $200.00. I’m thinking kind of an aim low disappearing act sort of gig.

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              What does any of that have to do with the fact that Trump fucked kids?

              I would point out that you probably have access to a chainsaw and a tree, and a scrappable vehicle made primarily of steel. These are things that the typical 18th century French peasant didn’t have.

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    Is, “influenced by billionaires,” a euphemism for, “she let her uber executive brother-in-law talk her into gutting any economic populism from her campaign in favor of tepid centrist policies that cost her the election and ushered in a new era of American fascism?”

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      I mean I’m not sure Bernie is that woke, much as I love him, but that’s pretty much the view from over here.

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        I disagree, but I do think he has an outdated notion of civil politics and wouldn’t make the same point in connection with her. I’m surprised he said as much about Harris, though I’m grateful if it helps dissuade the Dems from re-nominating her.

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          I dont know if you’ve been to reddit but there are a ton of Gavin Newsom posts. They’re probably gonna force this blue conservative down the voting publics throats.

          And all i hear are crickets from the democratic party regarding replacing First-past-the-post voting in the blue states they control. The democrats will never release their hostages willingly.

  • Commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Name one mainstream party in the current day world that isn’t being influenced by billionaires or their country-specific equivalents (if the country has no billionaires for instance)