• Wolf@lemmy.today
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    Is it just me or is whitewashing slavery the first step in reinstituting slavery?

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        We can but pulling logistics online leaves us open to plan spying by the enemy. Even using Signal is not secure enough if the govt military can be outed on it

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            If they were rising up on our side, we could have the legislature and the whitehouse cleaned out in no time. They would more likely rise up on the govts side

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          To be fair to Signal, they kinda outed themselves by including that journalist in the chat. That’s not really a fault of signal. But they also shouldn’t have been using signal in the first place, so there’s that.

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    Jfc. If this administration rewrites anymore history the US is going to just up and disappear. First it’s oh slavery wasn’t that bad, then its what slaves? We didn’t have slaves. Then we go full circle and have slaves again

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      and that’s not even getting into lynching picnics for the whole family, or community, cannibalism, using hair and other body parts of slaves to make medical devices, furniture, or decoration, and who can forget sexual slavery, raping slaves and selling the resulting children into slavery, many first hand accounts from slaves talk about constant sexual abuse. so it’s not ALL just torture and mutilation of living people, or dehumanizing them in every way imaginable.

      and one of the big fat myths of slavery, the docile happy slave. Never happened, slaves were very frequently rebelling, trying to organize to over throw their masters, and creating a whole systems of escape. There was no happiness in slavery, it a daily power struggle to suppress slave revolts and uprisings, and keep slaves in a constant state of fear and terror.

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        it a daily power struggle to suppress slave revolts and uprisings, and keep slaves in a constant state of fear and terror

        That’s what the “well-regulated militias” were for in the Second Amendment.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      No no no. My Good’ole’Boy high school curriculum told me the slaves were forced off the Plantation by the mean Union thugs in their War Of Northern Aggression.

      Clearly, this picture is just out of context or propaganda or idk he was clearly doing drugs and the police were just trying to help him out but he wouldn’t stop resisting.

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        Slavery was such an ingrained institution that there was for sure some disruption brought by ending it - even some disruption for the enslaved.

        People can mine this for evidence that the Union harmed people by ending slavery, but that’s a bad faith outlet for slavery apologists, and nothing more.

        Good change can be disruptive. I guess we can always count on Conservatives to place “no change” above all other priorities though. It’s kind of right there in their name.

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          I guess we can always count on Conservatives to place “no change” above all other priorities though.

          Unless the changes is hiking tariffs, gutting regulations, and embarking on a new generation of wars.

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            That’s the terrifying thing: Republicans are no longer conservative and we don’t know what the hell they are.

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            Conservatives were never a “no change” party, anywhere. The thing they were conserving was the unearned privilige and prerogatives of the elite. Conservatism was started as a reaction against Englightment ideas of rule of law, meritocracy and accountability.

            Conservativism has always represented the interests of the elite, whether those interests were precedented (like neoptism) or not (like, say, the enclosure of the commons in the UK).

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      Robert E. Lee, the hero of the south, tortured his slaves so savagely that his own slave overseer was disgusted and refused to participate. Which leads me to believe that the scars seen in this photo should be considered “within reason.”

      See? Bright side to everything if you’re enough of a monster.

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    Idk if you seen prageru, basically had a cartoon where Christopher Columbus said how “being slave was better than being dead”

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      Ngl, I’ve seen the same argument on other social networks whenever the spanish conquest on México comes up and they add how mexican society wouldn’t be how it is today without the conquest and… Really? Do they think the state of things is worth of praise?

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      (this ignores the thousands of taihno who committed suicide, choosing death over servitude, and how much work Colombus’ men put into preventing others from choosing the same path)

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      Are you forgetting how good it was for all those slave owners though? They liked it a whole lot.

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    People sang more back then. There were hardly any workers comp claims. And it kept kids off their dang iPhones.

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        Compensation should be the value of 40 acres and a mule, compounded at the going interest rate for 160 years. That bill shoud be paid by the states of the former Confederacy.

        Also, black people in those states should be given 5/3 of a vote for 100 years, to compensate for the 3/5 rule.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Black people loved slavery. There. I cut out all the euphemisms and just got us to the end goal to save us some time.

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    Conservative idiots like Trump want to white (heh) wash slavery because they want to bring slavery back. Not just for black people, but of course especially for black people first, but also for all the other poors they think they can exploit to make themselves richer. Somehow they think everyone should be on board with this, and alas probably some subset of idiots will be even after they’re already wearing the manacles themselves.

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      Stupid racist white people would be slaves and be saying, “I may be a slave, but at least I’m not a black slave.”

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      Slavery still exists in the US, it just now only mostly focused on African Americans. The Prison Industrial Complex is an abomination.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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        Yes, it still exists as the “except as punishment for a crime” loophole in the 13th amendment. And when fascists are in power, they love to make any arbitrary thing a crime so they have a justification to imprison anybody.

        Once they run out of farm workers due to having deported them all, expect Trump and his cronies to be super keen to staff those same farms using slave labor – for profit, of course – via just rounding up whoever else they don’t like on phony charges.

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    When I was in middle school, we had to make a list of pros and cons of slavery for classwork. I remember it being homework but I can’t see that bullshit flying if the parents knew.

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      I feel like there are two ways that list could go.

      The first is trying to whitewash slavery. The second is trying to help students understand why horrible things like this happen; why did entire economic systems get built for such a horrific practice.

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        why did entire economic systems get built for such a horrific practice.

        Lol we are still under oppressive economic systems meant to strip us of our identities and leave us as worker slaves barely making ends meet but still deciding between medication or food. We live in the greatest country in the world /s

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      Pros: Removes any ambiguity about who the shitbags are.

      Cons: Now good people have to kill the shitbags to free the slaves.

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      I like it honestly. Remove the idiocratic “Because it’s bad, duh”.

      No. Make your research. Understand the problem. Feel the problem. See how far it gone, and why people used that, and what was the price to pay.

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    We have to keep drilling in that slavery is bad because there are still so many fucking racists in this country.