What if I’m using a pirated copy of windows and office?
You get deported to Uganda.
Uganda be kiddin’ me.
Kenya believe it?
I’m not Ghana believe it.
lmao
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I recently started using VisiData and it’s amazing.
Good thing I stopped using MS WORD a long time ago.
I stopped at MS Word 2.0, when the Microsoft people agreed with me that it was pretty much broken for large files, and pointed me to an FTP site where there was a new version… which also was broken. Long story short, that’s when I first installed Linux and ran LaTeX and Applixware.
I suppose this means Microsoft will not count Word doc file sizes against users’ cloud storage quotas, right? Right??
It’ll be like Google: everything goes in, nothing comes out unless you jump through difficult hoops, price continually goes up.
If you’re in the EU, you can apply for a GDPR request to get sent a copy of all your data in their cloud, same for iCloud. Takes about 48 hours in my experience.
How is this served? Do they send a usb drive? Or a download link of some sort?
It’s a download link, on their respective dashboard you can select between the catagories you want. Like on Google you can select if you want youtube, drive, gmail, or everything at once.
With GDPR they have 7 days to comply, and it should be available to any EU citizen even when outside of EU territory. So I’m assuming you can just change your region. Either way, takeout.google.com is where I’d go.
Yeah, i ised take out before, it took 2 weeks to download my photos, i think 8 60gb downloads. It was painful, I got hopeful that youbhad discovered a workaround.
Ah, that’s unfortunate. Tbh I’ve been downloading 200GB there frequently and haven’t had any issues.
GDPR can also be called upon using a registered letter and they are required to deliver as well. I’m not sure but that might be a way to recieve a physical copy.
Getting anything out is already almost impossible. I moved sway from 3rd party cloud storage a couple years back. I had to get 500gb from onedrive and it was refusing to download at anything more than 50kb/s (my internet was significantly better than that)
Where do you think Google learned it?
? Google invented it.
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No, they upload your file, delete the local file, then oopsie, you ran out of cloud storage, please pay $99/month to access your files.
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Cool It finally gets Google docs core functionality after only 20 years. How innovative.
Actually it had auto save for more than a decade. It’s just that now they removed the ability to autosave locally, it must be to onedrive.
It didn’t remove anything, they’re just changing the default save location. You can revert it if you want, it’s all in the article…
This is extremely minor. I don’t understand the fuss.
Right? People have such immensely weird notions about Office, Microsoft and telemetry, as if they stopped using computers in the 90s and then just read some rage-bait headlines for the last 35 years.
You haven’t been able to autosave locally for many years already. Changing the default save location is just for when you press save.
WTF are you talking about, mate?
I’m using Office daily at work. I save data locally non-stop.
I swear to God, this community should be renamed from “Technology” to “Technologically Illiterate”…
You can save locally by pressing the save icon, yes. But if you want it to autosave every 10 minutes it only allows you to use onedrive as a destination. Or else you are on one of the older versions of Word which still allowed local auto saving.
Well, “save” and “autosave” are two very different features.
Autosave, yes, that’s a OneDrive specific feature.
Which also has nothing to do with what the article is about - they’re talking about Cloud locations of the user’s choosing, which means it will try to default to things like DropBox or Filen just as much as OneDrive.
Now go back and read the thread where I have been talking about autosave the whole time, which is also discussed in the article.
Google Docs has been a thing for 20 years? Wow I feel old
Started using Google Docs around 4th/5th grade. I’m a Sophomore in college now…
Still like Google online collaboration more than Microsoft online collaboration, so it’s still dogshit after 20 years…
Not to be used to train AI. We promise.
They’d break SO MANY international and data security laws if they tried breaking into people’s OneDrive, it’d be hilarious to see the number of lawsuits they’d lose by default.
they’re probably already doing that to a smaller degree, and slightly protecting themselves with an obscure clause in their TOS. besides, you only lose lawsuits if you get caught - and churning things through AI is a great way to erase any fingerprints that identifies stolen data
they’re probably already doing that to a smaller degree, and slightly protecting themselves with an obscure clause in their TOS
As soon as you find proof, you have literally free money up for the taking at any court.
you only lose lawsuits if you get caught - and churning things through AI is a great way to erase any fingerprints that identifies stolen data
That’s… not how any of this works…
an obscure clause in TOS won’t be a small print of an evil villain speech exposing their plot in clear wording. what it would be is something worded vaguely enough to make things seem like the end user technically agreed to what was being done, it could also be an “and” where you expected “or”, or an ommision of a specific thing… my point being - it’s always going to be a technicality that in case of a lawsuit would be a valid defence in the eyes of law
it very much is how it works though? show me a lawsuit someone lost before they got caught commiting a crime. and how would you even go about proving that your unpublished documents were used to train AI? even an entire life’s work of one person is just a speck in the training data, it’s impossible to definitively prove your work was stolen and used to train an AI. besides there will always be plausible deniability that the AI just made shit up that happened to look kinda like what you once wrote
an obscure clause in TOS won’t be a small print of an evil villain speech exposing their plot in clear wording. what it would be is something worded vaguely enough to make things seem like the end user technically agreed to what was being done
That means nothing. Illegal terms can’t be enforced in contracts or terms of service.
it’s always going to be a technicality that in case of a lawsuit would be a valid defence in the eyes of law
No. Written law always takes precedence. If they spied on your data stored in OneDrive, they’d lose by default the moment the case hit the courthouse.
As for your second paragraph: yeah, I agree. If they did that, the damage would’ve already been done. But it would kill the business once found out. The benefit is not worth the risk.
For example: you’re saying that they would use it to train AI, right?
They don’t train AI. They get a trained model from OpenAI.
LLM’s out here running wild. How Rude.Maybe I should switch to Linux again.
I still use Wordpad to write all my gay dinosaur erotica, am I safe?
It depends how gay is it? And do dinosaurs mate in packs?
For now… Next update they’ll add Copilot to it for reasons.
Mr Tingle, its an honor, and you should be at the moment, but please consider a more proper way of writing literature such as LaTeX or Vim
“or” ?
Last time I checked there was Copilot integration in NotePad. So I wouldn’t assume WordPad is safe from anything
Chuck Tingle, is that you?
No they won’t
You can turn it off. Opt-out is still bullshit.
I don’t trust Microsoft not to flip that switch back when I’m not looking.
until your computer force reboots itself in the middle of the day to do updates it didn’t tell you about, and you log back in and later that night find it uploaded all your shit to the cloud and just for good measure deleted some of it too as a fuck you
it’s the Microsoft way
Microsoft all about opting out rather than opting in.
you can turn it off (for now)
You can make yourself believe that you turned it off for now*
Yes Ms is secretly stealing from users across the world and yet not a single security researcher has found it. AND ALEXA IS LISTENING TO ME 24X365 DAYS A YEAR!
not a single security researcher has found it
They do find it regularly. Its not even a secret, they are openly advertising it as a feature.
AND ALEXA IS LISTENING TO ME 24X365 DAYS A YEAR!
It is… thats its purpose…
I think you are in the wrong place on lemmy if you are so willingly blind to the realities of tech companies.
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The true opt out is to stop using Microsoft products
You can’t opt out, most healthcate providers use windows.
Mental health awareness? No thanks, I rather just write in a journal and talk to myself in the mirror as therapy.
You guys are getting healthcare?
The dentist asked me to sign a waiver so they could use AI…I’m looking for another dentist
sounds like a ‘service problem’ someone once spoke about…
acquire your ms office ‘elsewhere’ and never link it to a ms account. same with windows. no msa, no ‘cloud’ to save to.
and there is a service problem here.
Per the article this can be deactivated
Turning it on by default (opt-out instead of opt-in) is still a huge concern and needs spreading the word about.
Oh very much so. Casual users are going to be donating their documents for AI processing and not even know it
No big corporation or state institution handling vast amounts of customer data will not allow this. Also really bad for regular consumer too. Microsoft servers will become treasure trove for hackers.
Bullshit like like often only applies to the consumer, not the business version.
That’s because we are not “customers”
People can’t seem to figure out that they are the mark at the poker table
ODT is better than whatever abomination Microsoft calls a document format.
Some executive noticed that they can’t sell you larger cloud storage if you haven’t used it up.
Then someone on the office copilot team said they wished they had access to more comprehensive data about what people write with office apps and the rest is history.
