• Squizzy@lemmy.world
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        Fossify is a tad too basic for me. I use the dialler and calculator. Both have slight issues. The calculator always starts with zero so tapping 1416 will give you 14016.

        Dialler doesnt seem to wake or respond as quick as others.

        I take it as it is given I know it is private and open but still there are gaps in UI and UX with foss that I wish were a bigger priority.

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      Help a brother out, which one is closest to Nova? I don’t mind paying for good work, I just want home screens and being able to place my icons where I want, also widgets!

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        There’s no direct replacement. The features I use are in Pear launcher so I use that. You have to look through launcher comparisons to find the features you need.

        I’ve made a post about this and some people are giving recommendations. Check out comments here: https://europe.pub/post/4256799

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        100%

        I stuck with Neo for ages waiting for updates to fix the last few issues…and they never came. Neo would be perfect if someone forked it and continued development.

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      Action launcher is a good replacement that I don’t see recommended. Still updated, stuffed with features. The main one I miss on other launchers is “covers” which let you promote one app as the default for a folder, you can swipe it instead of tapping to open the folder or tap to open the default. I only really use about 10 or so apps super regularly, so it’s great as I just have a single home screen that I rarely need to leave

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        I’m using Kvaesitso as well. But just looked at the permissions and I am shocked. Don’t know when the permissions changed, but I’m switching right now.

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            Also it’s GPL so feel free to edit as desired. Users not stuck with dev choices like some of the other options being mentioned here.

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          Those are for widgets that you choose to enable. Hard to access search features without permission to search, if you don’t want them, all you have to do is … not enable them / disable them if you flipped the on …

          Kvaesitso is awesome, updates regularly, and was the best launcher I found that worked for my use case transition from Nova.

          Granted I avoided trying a lot of the Freemium ones, or others.that were corporate controlled. Not interested in a forced migration 2.0, open source is nice cause it can always be forked if something happens.

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          It’s a launcher, it can do a heck of a lot of things, and needs permissions to be able to do so.

          But you don’t actually have to allow any of them in modern Androids if you don’t need those features. Nova Launcher also has quite a list, but I haven’t actually enabled any of them, it has never asked to, and everything works fine.

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        I’ve been using smart launcher for years it’s automatic categorization is amazing. Though, wanting change, I recently started using Niagara, and like the minimalist approach too.

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          I switched to Niagara after Nova added the shitload of trackers, and i love it. At first i thought: what, i should only place 7 elements on my homescreen? But it really works and it didn’t even take a day of active use that i knew i had to get the Pro version. Was the first time i ever put down money on a launcher, but i’ve been using it for years now and hope i will never need to replace it, because there’s nothing that comes close.

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            I put more. But the ones I use less are on the bottom. So it’s there for quick use, but I don’t have it there all the time.

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      I have used and enjoyed lawnchair for the past year. It’s quite minimal and I’ve found it very stable.

    • ardi60@reddthat.comOP
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      if you are asking about combinations of customisations, flexibility and stability. none atm.

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      There’s no direct replacement. The features I use are in Pear launcher so I use that. You have to look through launcher comparisons to find the features you need.

      Also, I’m surprised purple are still using Nova. I thought most people abandoned it after it for sold.

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        because it is much more stable, plenty of customisation and ofc one time payment.

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            Sure, but the duration of the ownership doesn’t matter a whole lot in this sort of situation. If you’ve missed the news about the selling when it happened, it’s relatively unlikely you’ll learn about it afterwards. I don’t periodically do a background check of all the devs and owners of my apps.

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      Have been using Neo Launcher since it had the features I needed from Nova (mostly hiding most apps from the app list while having them on the home screen in some folder so that it isn’t a mess when you want to find something specific). It hasn’t been updated in a while, but it works perfectly fine for me.

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    In a Reddit AMA, the then-Branch CEO Alex Austin also revealed that if Kevin ever left Branch, they would open-source Nova Launcher’s code and release it to the community.

    We still have hope if they keep their promise!

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      Read a bit further:

      Two years later, Kevin Barry left Branch and is no longer involved in Nova’s development. In his announcement, Barry revealed that he had been the sole developer for the past year, spending recent months preparing to open source Nova Launcher and clean up its codebase. However, Branch ultimately asked him to stop both development and his open-sourcing efforts.

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        Yeah, I read it. But they still promised open source, nothing about Barry working on it or not.

        That’s why I said “keeping their promise”

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          Perhaps I’m cynical, but I’m a little amazed you found Lemmy yet remain this optimistic about corporations.

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          The fact that the company forced him to stop getting ready to open source it strongly suggests they aren’t interested in it being open sourced.

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            Also, don’t ever trust companies to do anything they promised with the clear intent to garner good will, especially if the promise is years away

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          Austin is the CEO of a spyware company, while these days it’s not seen this way, it’s not too far from being a leader of a criminal organization (in my humble opinion).

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    Am I the only person that uses KISS launcher on this site? Once I got used to how it functions switching to something different will be hard.

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      It’s that vertical one aye? Used it for oldie backup phone and it was a blessing. But if you use more apps, it’s not worth it imo

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        Searching is way faster than trying to keep stuff organized in folders and screens. You get at least two clicks anyway and you keyboard is already there.

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    I hate being hinted and asked to click on the link, so I save you a click:

    It’s the end of an era: the founder and original developer of Nova Launcher — Kevin Barry — has stepped away from the development of the iconic custom launcher. This essentially marks the end of the road for the launcher, as it is unlikely to receive updates or new features. For years now, Nova Launcher has been the go-to launcher for power Android users, standing out for its plethora of customization options and features.

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      I would be so happy if Kevin got accidentally ‘hacked’ and the source leaked, by now im so ingrained in nova that it just feels wrong switching.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      That talk about substitutes happened when it was initially handed over to said data miner, and anybody concerned should have switched back then. I did, moving to Lawnchair, and never looked back. Oodles of other options are doubtlessly available.

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      I hate being hinted and asked to click on the link, so I save you a click:

      Are you using a different client? Without teaser texts? The Lemmy website mentions Nova in the teaser.

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        I’m on the PC and using Firefox, viewing Lemmy directly rather than on mobile.

        Android’s most beloved launcher may be done for good

        I see only this.

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          Seems like lemmy.world has the opengraph/teaser stuff disabled? When I open the post on lemmyworld, without an account, it doesn’t have a teaser at all.

          If you open this comment source link it may very well show.

          The interoperability of ActivityPub is nice, but all these differences make it confusing and cumbersome too.

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    I don’t even know how to use Android without Nova…

    Why does nothing good ever last?

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      Yep, have been using and currently using Nova for the last 8 years I think. Suuucks to see it go as I couldn’t find a viable search based launcher like Nova when it was sold.

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      I like Olauncher a lot but I can’t do like a feature comparison with Nova, I never used it. Hope you find something good to replace it with though!

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      I switched to Niagara a few years back because Nova didn’t have good support for foldables and tbh I haven’t looked back. It’s very different but once you get used to it it’s much faster than a traditional launcher.

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        I’ve been using Niagara for about 6 months now and love it. Having the alphabet down the side of the home screen for immediate 2 tap access to any app is so slick.

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        I switched to Niagara a few years ago when Nova was sold. True game changer once you get used to it (which doesn’t take too long). It works great on phone or tablet. And there is still something SO satisfying about watching the alphabet and apps move with your thumb. It’s so smooth and the haptic feedback is perfect (running on Pixel 7, GrapheneOS, and a cheap old Samsung tablet A8).

        Random video showing the UI within the first minute:

        https://youtu.be/sh6q5bjcaXQ

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    KISS has been the only reasonable launcher ever since Android ruined it’s overview system.

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    I just use the Fairphone 2 Launcher and it’s fine 🤷🏻

    I used Nova on my last phone and it worked great, I paid for pro. So I know what I’m missing, not worth it to get back in the Google Play Store system though. I like being anon with no Google account, especially considering Nova sold to a company that data mines user data?

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    These companies lack any sort of common sense. Nova is used (and suggested) by Android users that are at least minimally tech-savvy. What on earth would make them believe that news like this one would remain secret, and therefore allow them to keep the userbase to suck on their data?

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    I’m very thankful to Kevin for this amazing launcher that I’m still using to this day.

    Also a bit disapointed he trusted Branch and gave them the opportunity to ruin it.

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        You make it sound as if human greed as part of the human condtion will suddenly and magically disappeared under any other form of trade or political system. That is not what literal history has us shown to be the case, over, and over again.

        What fucked it up was he selling to the wrong company. But we do not know why he did it. For all we know, he was tired to taking lead in the project and wanted to cash out. He was entitled to do that, or what is the option, force him to work on it just for your needs or to sell to only the company that you or I approved of? What gives us the right to force their hand?

        It sucks but that is what he wanted. We both agree that it us unfortunate though. It is too bad.

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          That human nature will disappear when provided an egalitarian society is the biggest lie I see parroted over and over again by folks who also demand I read theory.

          Our nature isn’t a result of our systems, our systems are a result of our nature

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            The human condition is dictated by the hegemonic system that is governing.

            Monopoly™ the game is structually engineered so that players kill the competition and secure the entire board. Would playing by the game’s rules make me inherently a capitalist jerk? No, because they dictate my behaviour and not following them would put me outside the realm of the game (i.e. the system) resulting in my loss (decay).

            If the capitalist system incentivizes me to outcompete others and hoard my wealth and, conversely, punishes me for my altruism; then, I am forced to play by the rules of such a system.

            “Human nature” is much more complex to be reduced to just greed. This is what’s so cool about being humans, we are so malleable and can be many many things either at once or separately.

            Edit: I want to give some concrete examples to what I’m saying. Initially, the Google leadership was skeptical about AI funding, because of privacy and environmental concerns. Yet, as rival competition grew they backpedaled because this would mean their spot as the strongest teck company would be usurped. The late hop into AI funding and development heavily impacted their prospects and they remain falling behind in this respect (source). Here, we have an exemplary case of how the system automatically punishes hood deeds and reinforces predatory and greedy acts.

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              Did you know that Monopoly was originally invented by a woman whose point was how horrible monopolies are? It originally had a co-op mode that could topple monopolies through unions and co-ops.

              Her game was bought by a jerk who removed the co-op mode and then claimed Monopoly as his own game. She died penniless.

              If the capitalist system incentivizes me to outcompete others and hoard my wealth and, conversely, punishes me for my altruism; then, I am forced to play by the rules of such a system.

              So change it… or be a pebble in the mountain of change.

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        I asked many years ago to add an option to send donations. They said it wasn’t needed. I wonder if additional revenue may have helped.

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    I don’t understand the point of most of Android launchers, since they don’tcreally look that different from each other.

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      To feed you ads, or make you pay for nothing special. Nova - the launcher from the article - is great, very customizable, and lightweight.

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      That’s just not true, especially with Nova, the one this article is talking about. Nova lets you customise basically everything.

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      Man, I’ve been using it for a long time. I was going to buy the forever sub a while ago and never did. When did it jump to $42. I could’ve sworn it was like 20.