It has 15 different types of beans in it and it can be bought pre packaged. 15 different beans!

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    Give me a semi–plausible reason why these beans need to be unmixed into 15 separate piles and I will give it all of my focus.

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    With an average-sized spoon, every spoonful could be a different type of 6 bean soup—it’s like getting five thousand soups in one!

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      15 choose 6 == 15 * 14 * 13 * 12 * 11 * 10 /(6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1) == 5005

      Wow, I did the math thinking, no, hoping you were wrong, but 5k is right on the money. You must have done the math. Good show sir

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        Why assume there are 6 beans in a spoonful? Maybe 15 choose 8 is a more common scoop… Assume no partial beans in spoonfuls. Also assume each bean type is as likely to be “scooped”. Finally, assume an infinitely large bowl of soup.

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    I prefer 239 bean soup. Yes, it must be exactly 239 beans, not even one bean more.

    If 239 bean soup had even just one more bean, it would be too farty bean soup.

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    I’m unemployed and involuntarily vegan for health reasons. Dried mixed beans, brown rice, and frozen vegetables are keeping me alive.

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        Be careful with cheap spices. If it’s from a trusted brand, sure, go for it. Whole spices tend to be more trustworthy than powders (and sometimes cheaper). But there have been some instances of heavy metal contamination of cheap powdered spices. Especially the imported powders you’ll see a lot in international grocery stores. Even if it is safe, you don’t know how long it’s been sitting in the store or waiting in a far away warehouse.

        If you see super-cheap cinnamon, it’s usually Cassia cinnamon, which contains high levels of coumarin, a blood thinner. “Real” cinnamon is Ceylon. It’s more expensive, but has much lower levels of coumarin, and most prefer its more delicate flavor. Afaik labels aren’t required to disclose what kind of cinnamon you’re buying, but the more reputable brands sell the Ceylon variety and label it as such. You can also get whole cinnamon, and the two varieties are easy to tell apart.

        I like getting spices from stores with a bulk spices section. e.g., if you need a tbsp of cinnamon, or a single star anise, a very specific amount of something you’ll only use once, etc… you put only what you need in a little container and purchase it by weight. It will be super cheap compared to a whole prepackaged container and you’ll always have a fresh product with no waste. You can even bring/reuse your own containers! A lot of local food co-ops have a bulk area with spices. “Frontier Co-op” is a popular vendor for bulk sets, and their stuff is vetted and super high quality. Best of both worlds IMO.

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        I’ve been like this for months. I’m miserable. I’m a vegetarian because I hate animals. I have high blood pressure so I cut out animal fat and booze.

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          Cook mushrooms in rice or beans. Add wallnuts. Supposedly walnut and no other but has shown to help lower blood pressure.

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          I’m a vegetarian because I hate animals

          If you hate animals, I don’t think you’re doing this right.

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            Nope I know what I’m doing. Animals are made of blood and guts which I find gross. They’re also annoying. I don’t want them to be a part of me.

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              Animals are made of blood and guts which I find gross. They’re also annoying.

              Wait until you hear about the most annoying animal of all, humans!! Nobody’s supposed to eat those!

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        not really. Especially if you have access to vegan chick’n nuggies and corn dogs and junk.

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          The moment you stop eating meat you’ll notice just how hard society wants you to chew on dead animals. Your friends, your family, the TV commercials, the radio. They never talk about a juicy mushroom taco. It just Burger this and pork that everywhere you go. That’s what I mean by brutal. And its always an inconvenience for the cook to not add dead animal or smear your food with animal milk products.

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            Smear? What milk products are you thinking of? What came to my mind was cheese (which you could call metan tofu, I suppose…), but I would usually expect cheese to be sprinkled, not smeared.

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                Even when I’m not a practicing vegan, I dislike cream cheese and sour cream. I cant order many things just because if you ask them to leave it off, you might not only get a look for it, but they may just put it on there anyway.

                I threw a crunch wrap (black bean with cheese and jalapeno) out the window about ten years ago. Not my finest moment, but fuck sour cream, I was starving and it just ruined everything. Aye.

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                  LOL, practicing. My boss calls me vegan flex because I’ll eat stuff without looking at the contents.

                  But you know, veganism is just a self control thing. Like capital punishment. We don’t allow it but every now and then someone in Texas just has to go do their thing on the electric seating arrangement. There’s little we can do sometimes. Veganism is a self control decision not to eat products or allow the torture and murdering of animals. So I can stop tomorrow if I decided to do that. It’s not a better than thou thing. Its not a religion or a club. We don’t high five each other. Its just an understanding that if you eat that burger, a happy cow with life a dreams will be murdered to replace it…and the burger contains the dismembered parts of a cow after it was murdered and tortured. So its a decision.

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            I love mushroom derived flavors, but eating actual mushrooms, it’s always about texture never the taste

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            I was on a work crew once when I was vegan. We cut trees and all rode to the locations in the same work van. One day we stopped for Ice Cream at a really popular place before calling it the day. Yay on the clock shenanigans, boo, it’s ice cream. They asked if I was cool with it, and of course I said I didnt mind, and just waited in the van.

            I almost cried when my supervisor brought me out a slushy. I didn’t know they had them. It was very kind of my supervisor. No one ever made fun of me, but it was definitely obvious to everyone in day to day talk/life I had the dietary restriction.

            It was also very surprising to me, how many chips use milk powder. I had a few kettle cooked salt and vinegar chips before reading the bag, and was shocked … Why? The pain.

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              They don’t just put it in there for fun, you can bet that milk powder affects the eating experience in a way most people enjoy. Snack companies invest a ton of money refining every nuance of their recipes.

              Very nice supervisor though, the everyday compassion makes big impact.

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              Milk was the hardest to give up but also the cruelest of products because to get milk you have to starve baby calfs. But oat milk and soy milk seem great. Soy if you want big boobs. Costco has several brands of both.

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                  No, plants do not like to be irrigated with any kind of milk. Plus I wouldn’t suggest to eat plants if I was a plant… I know, its what a vegan plant would say if asked if it was a vegan plant…

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                I watched Earthlings while I was nursing my newborn. Thats all it took.

                Regular milk was easy to give up, I like coconut milk better anyway, cheese was much harder to be honest. Still milk, but cheese was rough. Hummus was the only thing that could satiate the creving.

                I’m pretty certain soy won’t give you “big boobs” unless you had a quantum fuckton of it, so much so, it’s impossible for a human to consume naturally.

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    That means 15 different farts as well. Had this bag last week and I’m still rippin ass

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      Not sure if you’re joking or not. My bean post was deleted by a mod for “Not this shit again”.

      I feel like that mod is not properly calibrated to mod a shitppost community

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          I think a good shitpost should get a decent number of downvotes. I don’t take any issue with that. But removing a post that doesn’t break any rules just because you dont like it…especially in a shitposting community feels like a step too far.

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            Just like killing an asshole, I don’t think it’s right, I just understand why it was done (and low-key agree tbh)

            Basically

            • Is it wrong? Yes
            • So I understand why? Yes
            • Would I do that in their shoes? Maybe
            • Does that make me a hypocrite? Probably, I do lots of wrong things
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    It’s delicious, prepared with or without the recommended canned tomatoes.

    For those complaining about gas, properly soaked and a potato added (not eaten) helps a lot. Cooking to mush or a bit of soda works but messes with the flavor.

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      potato added (not eaten)

      I’m sorry, what? You add potato to the soup, then remove it before serving like a bay leaf?

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      Do you eat beans regularly?

      I’ve tried every remedy I’ve heard of to fix beans and none of them have worked. I’ve become convinced that people who eat beans regularly have different gut flora which properly digest the oligosaccharides without producing gas, but I can’t prove it.

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        When I boil my beans, I add bay leaf to the water. I think it helps.

        But I made a white bean, cabbage, bacon, chop tomato soup for dinner last night, no gas. My husband didn’t have gas…

        I didn’t do the bay leaf thing this time, so idk. I think beans just have hella fiber, and idk if your from the US or not, but I’ve read a few times over the years, many people here don’t get enough fiber day to day in the states.

        I think the gas has more to do with folks who don’t often eat high fiber foods. When you then, do, it gives you issues.

        You’re probably at least somewhat right, if you have beans often, they digest more easily. I had guessed it was because they have high fiber though. It also could have to do with eating under cooked beans, which is never a good idea.

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          I eat lots of other high fibre foods: oatmeal, wheat bran, whole grain breads and pastas, salads. No issues.

          Oligosaccharides are something different. They’re in between simple sugar and fibre. Medium chain sugars basically. They need to be broken apart to be absorbed and used by the body. But we don’t produce the enzyme needed to cleave them.

          Bacteria can break them down but they live in the colon (like most other digestive bacteria). This breakdown in the colon essentially results in a bunch of simple sugars being introduced into a bacteria-rich environment. More bacteria grow and feast on the sugars, producing gases such as methane.

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        Have you tried Beano, or a similar pill with alpha-galactosidase as the active ingredient? Taking half a dose before a meal and the other halfway through can help a lot.

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          I haven’t tried it but I’ve heard it works really well! I’m a bit worried that it would not help develop a natural ability to digest beans.

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        I eat beans basically as my main diet and don’t really soak or rinse them or anything, have no digestive issues from it.

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    People are joking around, but mixing different beans is important.

    Beans are a good source of protein, but they’re incomplete - no single bean will provide all essential amino acids.

    So mix them up and you end up with complete protein.

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      That’s misinformation that was published in the 1950s and has long been discredited, for many reasons

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        Oh cool, I guess they forgot to inform the entire physiology department of the university I got my biology degree in, and the periodics where they publish their research.

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          It’s a question of nutrition, not biology. Humans don’t need that much protein, so it doesn’t matter if you pee out some amino acids.

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      Focusing on complete proteins is largely unhelpful 99.9% of cases. Unless you are eating a exclusively singular source of protein for all meals and snacks it’s going to be not practically relevant. You don’t need to get all the amino acids at the same meal - just at some point in the day. And even thing you don’t think of as protein sources can be enough to make something complete. For instance, just adding rice is enough to make beans complete

      It’s also not the case that the beans don’t have all the amino acids, they do, it’s just less on certain ones. Which is why it can often take so little to make something complete protein. Complete is just a bar of “does it have this specific threshold of the amino acids”, not does it contain them at all

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        You don’t need all amino acids on the same meal, that’s true.

        If you’re a vegan, managing protein intake is important. Making sure you get complete proteins is overlooked.

        Your comment is a dangerous simplification and excludes the fact that indeed many people rely on specific, cheap, vegetable sources of protein as their only protein.

        As for rice, while it will indeed complete most bean types, the amount of protein per 100g is very low.

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          Many researchers argue the exact opposite - that it is way overemphasized. Especially because thing you might not think of as protein sources can add the missing other amino acids. Things like wheat, rice, etc. also have protein that can complement others. It’s extremely unlikely for a bean heavy diet to actually have beans as the sole source of all protein even if is the main source

          Combining does not need to happen for every single meal: so long as the diet is varied and meets caloric needs, even vegans and vegetarians – people who tend to have more “incomplete protein” in their diet – can easily meet their amino acid needs. In other words, most people do not need to consider the completeness of proteins of single foods.[9]

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein

          Especially the false idea that it has to be done at each meal

          Protein combining has drawn criticism as an unnecessary complicating factor in nutrition.

          In 1981, Frances Moore Lappé changed her position on protein combining from a decade prior in a revised edition of Diet for a Small Planet in which she wrote:

          "In 1971 I stressed protein complementarity because I assumed that the only way to get enough protein … was to create a protein as usable by the body as animal protein. In combating the myth that meat is the only way to get high-quality protein, I reinforced another myth. I gave the impression that in order to get enough protein without meat, considerable care was needed in choosing foods. Actually, it is much easier than I thought.

          “With three important exceptions, there is little danger of protein deficiency in a plant food diet. The exceptions are diets very heavily dependent on [1] fruit or on [2] some tubers, such as sweet potatoes or cassava, or on [3] junk food (refined flours, sugars, and fat). Fortunately, relatively few people in the world try to survive on diets in which these foods are virtually the sole source of calories. In all other diets, if people are getting enough calories, they are virtually certain of getting enough protein.”[13]: 162

          The American Dietetic Association reversed itself in its 1988 position paper on vegetarianism. Suzanne Havala, the primary author of the paper, recalls the research process:

          There was no basis for [protein combining] that I could see… I began calling around and talking to people and asking them what the justification was for saying that you had to complement proteins, and there was none. And what I got instead was some interesting insight from people who were knowledgeable and actually felt that there was probably no need to complement proteins. So we went ahead and made that change in the paper. [Note: The paper was approved by peer review and by a delegation vote before becoming official.]

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_combining#Criticism

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            Especially because thing you might not think of as protein sources can add the missing other amino acids. Things like wheat, rice, etc. also have protein that can complement others.

            So I say “consider how some people actually do have a single source of protein per day, they’re not combining it with other food sources, but they should be aware of this” and your reply is “oh but you see they’re combining it with other food sources so that’s not important” flawless logic.

            Especially the false idea that it has to be done at each meal

            I never said that. You mentioned it, I said I agreed, and you mentioned it again to reinforce a point I never made. Trying to pad out the comment or something?

            Many researchers argue the exact opposite

            Sure. And there are several who disagree, or more precisely, might agree that in a vacuum your point stands, but given the atrocious bioavaliability of most plant-based protein, you actually do need to combine protein to effectively fix the issue because your body will absolutely not fully digest the 2g of protein in your 100g plate of white rice.

            https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/16/17/2870

            https://www.researchgate.net/publication/358889835_Metabolic_Availability_of_Methionine_Assessed_Using_Indicator_Amino_Acid_Oxidation_Method_is_Greater_when_Cooked_Lentils_and_Steamed_Rice_Are_Combined_in_Healthy_Young_Men

            https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11750452_Protein_Digestibility-Corrected_Amino_Acid_Scores_for_Bean_and_Bean-Rice_Infant_Weaning_Food_Products

            https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6245118/

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              So I say “consider how some people actually do have a single source of protein per day, they’re not combining it with other food sources, but they should be aware of this” and your reply is “oh but you see they’re combining it with other food sources so that’s not important” flawless logic.

              My point is that it effectively happens anyway without even having to think about it in 99% of cases. It’s not really a large issue in the slightest. It just makes things sound scarier and more complex than it needs to be. People have finite ability to focus on various health things, and this just isn’t something 99% of people need to be worried about

              If someone is eating the exact identical source exclusively, every single day with no variation in anything, they are likely going to end up deficient in other things way before this, regardless of which thing they are eating (unless it’s something like Huel or Soylent which is designed to include everything). This is not at the level of “someone has beans a lot”. This is at the level of “virtually all of your calories come from beans” to be some larger issue

              Many people use it as a lever to attack plant-based diets in situation that it just doesn’t apply at all by making it sound like it’s something you’re needing some spreadsheet for. It’s really not the case. Plus things like soy, chia, hemp, and more are also already complete too


              I never said that. You mentioned it, I said I agreed, and you mentioned it again to reinforce a point I never made. Trying to pad out the comment or something?

              I was not saying that you said this. I should have worded that better. I was trying to add some more context for relevant statements from authors talking about both complete proteins and protein combining. I did a poor job of that though


              because your body will absolutely not fully digest the 2g of protein in your 100g plate of white rice.

              You don’t need to digest all of it, it’s just about a specific amino acid (Methionine in this case which beans already have some of). It’s just a little bit to make it complete. For instance, one of the studies you linked with rice + lentils found the two together rose the DIASS to overall be 100% (122% for infants and kids, 143% for older adults)


              I should also note protein quality metrics are also often based on some faulty assumptions for plants in particular. For instance, the DIASS has some flaws that make it undervalue the quality of plant proteins

              While multiple strengths characterize the DIAAS, substantial limitations remain, many of which are accentuated in the context of a plant-based dietary pattern. Some of these limitations include a failure to translate differences in nitrogen-to-protein conversion factors between plant- and animal-based foods, limited representation of commonly consumed plant-based foods within the scoring framework, inadequate recognition of the increased digestibility of commonly consumed heat-treated and processed plant-based foods, its formulation centered on fast-growing animal models rather than humans, and a focus on individual isolated foods vs the food matrix. The DIAAS is also increasingly being used out of context where its application could produce erroneous results such as exercise settings. When investigating protein quality, particularly in a plant-based dietary context, the DIAAS should ideally be avoided.

              https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s13668-020-00348-8.pdf

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    You think I don’t know about beans?! I almost died in freshman year at Biffmoore because I ate a bag of uncooked beans. Dry Beans!

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      This one in particular is good for making ham soup with thanksgiving leftovers. They print a recipe on the packaging.

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        this is def a staple in my pantry to be enjoyed anytime ham goes on sale, have a classic ham dinner, the next night is ham and stouffers mac, and night three is when anything that didn’t become sandwiches goes into the pot for the bean stew and it is so freakin good, highly recommend

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            tbh, i am pretty meat-adverse at this point in my 30s, but as a cook, i def won’t give up the usefulness of a ham hock, hating ham due to the weird, congealed cold cuts that i grew up with, i still love the slow cooked bone, it’s mainly the unrendered fat that skeeves me

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              Yeah, gotta cook it for a long time. The best ramen places do bone broth right, and they often cook that shit for day(s)

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                lol, people love a good tonkotsu for sure, i still prefer a clear broth like shio or just dashi depending on the place, i just don’t like the flavour as much of the bone broth, noodles should be light unless i’m drunk or its yakisoba ;p but bean stew is the perfect spot for a heavy broth, still, i don’t like it for the pork flavour as much as the sodium that ham adds, i basically don’t eat pork unless it’s processed lmao

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                  Yeah I love tonkotsu. I think the place near me might also just be like exceptional (reviews seem to confirm). I imagine it’s possible to not do it right.