cross-posted from: https://lemmy.nz/post/28397398
The suspension triggered strong responses across social media and beyond. Hashtags like #CancelDisneyPlus and #CancelHulu trended as users shared screenshots of their canceled subscriptions.
With cancellations surging, many subscribers reported technical issues. On Reddit’s r/Fauxmoi, one post read, “The page to cancel your Hulu/Disney+ subscription keeps crashing.”
I cancelled my Disney sub when the Gaza genocide first started. Glad its catching on. Disney is run by assholes.
Good. Finally some people are taking action, even if it might be a whee bit uncomfortable.
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Sadly if every performer took that approach, that might be the end of broadcast television. Which it might be already anyway.
I sometimes sit with my dad who still watches broadcast tv. It’s dead already, my dude. A commercial break is about 10 commercials, eight of which are for prescription drugs. I once saw an entire commercial break that was nothing but prescription and OTC drugs. No insurance, no car or beer commercials, just wall to wall drugs. It’s insanity.
I cancelled all of my streaming services a few years ago. I prefer cable, where I find I mainly watch the big four broadcast networks. I.e Fox, CBS, ABC, NBC. I’m not dealing with a million streaming services or figuring out which one I need to watch which show. I’ll just pirate those shows for that. My commercials aren’t as bad as yours, I’m guessing it’s region specific. I like the local news and some of the stupid prime time shit. If I’m going to stream or pirate something, I feel like I’m really committing to fully watching it. Cable is nice to have on in the background while I’m doing other stuff on my phone or computer. But I’m old so I’m used to it and I grew up with it. It has a certain charm. I suppose people who grew up with streaming services will not understand.
Either way, it’s not trumps business to bully people with the FCC. But like everything else now, no one will stop him.
If every performer took that approach, alternatives would become viable, and they could perform in those.
Not been an American I don’t really know who he is but if he is as popular as seems to be the case I’m surprised that he didn’t move away from broadcast television anyway.
A lot of comedians are doing extremely well on YouTube.
For now. Trump is going to take another crack at breaking them up & I guarantee if successful he’ll get some form of control over YouTube’s content.
I canceled my stuff over this and I don’t even watch him. I let them know it was because they are free speech abolitionists and capitulating to Trump. I’m also a huge Star Wars and Marvel fan, so this was a big deal to me to cancel.
Its not about popularity at all. Its about the first amendment in the constitution that guarantees everyone a voice no matter how much someone doesn’t like it. As has been the case,so far this year though, the constitution is just so much toilet paper to the fuckfaces of the government.
they also donate heavily to the GOP, so they are partially responsible for getting themselves in this situation.
I’m ready to bet that only a 0.something% of customers will actually cancel, there will be a barely visible bump in Disney’s KPI this month, and in a month half of them will subscribe again to watch the latest Avengers vs Star Wars: the Invasion of the Ducks.
Probably, but if it turns out on the higher end of that, say 0.8%, then that’s also not nothing, considering that it’s the result of firing one (1) dude.
Yep, most people don’t care
It’s not about caring but about effectiveness. Even if I’m one of those suckers that “vote with his wallet”, I know that it’s naive to think that cancelling a subscription will move the needle for corporations like Disney.
Consider also the collateral damages of a hypothetical successful anti-Disney campaign: layoffs, drop in the stock market with impacts on pension funds, projects cancelled with third parties (so more layoffs and drops in the stock market), …
The right protest here (IMHO) is against Trump, MAGA, and especially who voted for them. That may be more effective and with less collateral damages than trying to bankrupt Disney by cancelling Disney+ from the couch.
I thought you guys want megacorp to fail?
“You guys” who?
I don’t want megacorps to fail. I want them to be ethical.
I want them to be ethical.
I’m gonna tell you something you shoulda heard a long time ago:
Wish in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.
You’re on a hiding to know where with that one
Lol good luck, it’s like saying I’d like Roquefort cheese to taste like pineapple.
Of course, but it’s a more realistic goal than shouting “let’s burn the megacorps” and it can be achieved through regulations.
You know what’s even more realistic? Reality, the one where megacorps are funding a new wave of nazifascism around the world, just so they won’t get regulated.
Wake the fuck up.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
The only way to get any resemblance of that is through govt. regulation. Since that’s impossible with the current levels of wealth inequality and moral bankruptcy, them failing is for the best! That and the noggin removal of the highest earners.
them failing is for the best
The issue with that is that half of the jobs are in those companies. To that half, you need to add all the small business in the supply chains, and don’t forget the pension funds and personal savings invested in their stocks and bonds.
It doesn’t make much sense what you wish for.
Besides that, sorry, but they won’t fail. Regulations are much more likely to happen.
I have far fewer fucks to give about the “impact” of my boycotts than I have for my integrity.
I refuse to give my money to fascists if it’s at all avoidable. I will inconvenience myself and pay more for alternatives, or forego things completely if I can’t make a compelling argument for having them.
I have yet to hear such an argument for a streaming service.
You think the global economy is going to collapse because Disney collapses? They make a lot of money as a corporation but that’s not important because they don’t pay any taxes.
You think the global economy is going to collapse because Disney collapses?
No, I don’t, but Disney could easily be a 5% of a pension fund, and its price fluctuation can have a significant impact on common people.
They make a lot of money as a corporation but that’s not important because they don’t pay any taxes.
That’s actually ad advantage for investors such as your pension fund.
Won’t some think of the poor shareholders?!?1?
highly likely
Consider thanking the money you save and using it to donate to npr and pbs
Fr fr
Sad that all we can do to prevent literal fascism is unsubscribing from a streaming service
Let’s be realistic: not preventing, more like protesting
Unintended consequence of capitalism: all the eggs in one basket makes for a much easier target lol
They only care about money. Hit em where it hurts.
Yeah, I don’t have a subscription, so I guess I’ll just shrug and upvote 🤷♂️
The most powerful force on earth is the consumer. Don’t mock or dismiss the power you have. Embrace it.
Talking with your wallet is the best thing you can do, honestly. Against any company.
Let’s not talk as if it’s all we can do; it’s one action amongst many. Besides, let’s not forget that these companies would 1000% be in favor of democracy if they thought it was profitable. They’re fascists, but if their ideals hurt their bottom line, they’ll change their tune, because they have shareholders to appease.
It’s not all you can do but it’s one of the easier things you can try
I canceled my Hulu/Disney+ subscription two days ago. A long time ago, I had an absolute boycott on Disney because I hated their hypocrisy when it came to copyright law. They tried to extend their copyrights indefinitely, even though the majority of their IPs came from the public domain. They were like a dog who only knows how to fetch the ball, but won’t ever release it.
When Disney acquired Pixar and was the American distributor for Studio Ghibli, and bought Star Wars, and distributes Marvel, at some point I eventually relented and stopped my boycott. I stopped caring as much about hypocrisy, in general. But never again. It was obviously a mistake to ever give them money. They will never get anything from me again.
Same here, except I stopped giving a shit about Marvel & Star Wars when they bought them.
Same here. When they bought SW, 1313 was cancelled. I remember i had a friend who had faith in disney owning SW… he isn’t my friend anymore (because other things) but he won’t stop bashing disney for what they did to the IP, lol.
i had optimism they’d handle star wars well given how they handled marvel up to that point. unfortunately they learned absolutely zero lessons from that success.
I’ll admit, I’m hypocritical on some things. Disney became an easier choice for me when all their stuff became kinda bad.
Remember to no only tell your friends but also keep the boycott going even if they bring back Kimmel’s show.
Per Deadline:
Still, according to another well-placed source, while some senior staff are expressing disappointment in how it all went down, “it is in no way widespread”.
They have not learned a single lesson here, keep boycotting and I’ll be willing to help with anyone who’d like to get a docker based media server going so you can protest while still watching the content that the creative people stuck contractually at Disney are making.
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Or they crashed it when they saw how many were trying to quit
Nah, cancellation resources are always minimal. Doesn’t make sense to pay for serious hardware to please people on their way out the door. Every service I’ve ever had to cancel has always been a maze and generally more annoying, slow, and cumbersome than the signup process.
Yeah well when the laws regarding this allow mass psychological manipulation for profits then it’s on the countries for enabling the greediest pieces of shits to do this.
Edit:Antilaw suits everywhere but Mark Zuckerberg creating an entire algorithm dictating your view on Instagram and Facebook is completely fine using psychology to manipulate everyone.
I never subscribed as they literally filmed Mulan outside a concentration camp in certain bits and thanked the CCP in the credits
Source?
For those that don’t know, Adrian Zenz is an evangelical christian who conducted his Xinjian investigations entirely from outside of China. His claims of mass repression and incarceration have mostly been verified. His claims of genocide due to reproductive repression are most likely a combination of his politically and religious motivated beliefs.
The U.N. does not recognise demographic, reproductive, or cultural repression as genocide. The most that can be reliably proven in Xinjian is severe human rights abuses.
It’s similar to the severe human rights abuses commited by America in the middle east. Although of different intent and less ethnically driven, American military operations ultimately affected a similar number of people and caused a similar anount of large-scale harm, leading to accusations that America’s selective outrage could possibly be seen as hypocritical and politically motivated.
And here I thought this movie couldn’t get any worse. I wasn’t able to continue watching after about 11 minutes due to the story feeling boring and forced.
Lmao real the Disney live action remakes are awful
Live action remake, thank you. I was so confused about how they filmed Mulan.
Lmao yeah no the animators did not animate the original Mulan outside a concentration camp and thank the CCP, sorry for not adding that little bit of context originally XD
This is the way.
crashes
Maybe, but could it also be an intentional dark pattern to make it difficult to cancel?
Anytime I want to cancel something and the company makes it difficult I just cancel the credit card side of it. Sod them. That’s what they get if they want to play silly buggers.
Yup
Unlikely. I was trying to contact support and that was completely broken also. Unlikely if they were just trying to make cancellation harder. Likely if they were overloaded.
But overloaded by design?
There’s a huge public rush to cancel their services. It’s probably just overloaded by reality.
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Sure. It’s a design flaw. Yep. Nothing to see here.
Could also be a decision to limit how much the service scales as more people use it. It’s not like they are incentivised to throw a bunch of hardware at the problem when the problem in question is “people are unable to leave the platform”
They use AWS and specifically design their software to be able to dynamically scale, ever since Wandavision crashed their playback.
Is it possible that they never entertained having to make their cancellation page scalable? Sure. Is it more likely that they intentionally haven’t made it scalable? Yes.
even if that is the case it’s a good sign imo. it means people were causing an impact big enough for them to notice and take action.
It’s amazing to think that people were fooled into thinking a greedy litagatious mega global corporate conglomerate like Disney was actually progressive in the first place instead of just following market trends for maximum shareholder profit.
it’s easy to do something in the heat of the moment when passions are running high (and your favorite show is in-between seasons) but let’s see where the boycott is in 6+ months after everything has cooled down and about 300 other new little fires from the current admin have come and gone from the headlines. That’s the true measure of these kinds of “low temp” protests.
At this point, just pirate.
I mean, I finally quit Hulu over this, and neither my husband or I had even watched Hulu in about a year at this point. I’d always kept the subscription going “just in case,”. I was the only one paying and neither of us has any qualms about letting it go.
I can’t believe that we’re the only ones in this bracket of users.
There’s always sailing the high seas
Even if they get back two thirds of the people who quit while the other third have discovered “other” ways to get their Disney content, that’s still a third of a loss of revenue. A small dent is better than no dent. And whether the website crashed because of all the people quitting or they intentionally crashed it to prevent people from quitting, that means its a significant amount of people, and a third of that is still significant to them.
sure, but those are just numbers you pulled out of literally nowhere.
but let’s see where the boycott is in 6+ months after everything has cooled down
It seems to me that once folks have discovered the joys of piracy, they rarely return to streaming.
I wouldn’t know, because I wouldn’t download a car unless it was fully copyleft licensed.
DO you interact with normal people? most of them don’t even have a computer anymore.
