Party prepared to risk government shutdown and will not support GOP bill unless cuts to healthcare are reversed
It has been nine brutal months for congressional Democrats.
Relegated by voters to the minority in last year’s election, they have been powerless to stop Republicans from acting on Donald Trump’s demands to fund an immigration crackdown, strip money for foreign aid and public media, and downsize Medicaid, which provides healthcare to poor and disabled Americans.
That is set to change next week. Funding for the government expires on Tuesday, but Democrats have refused the GOP’s demands to support legislation keeping it open unless the majority agrees to reverse the Medicaid cuts, restore funding to public media and extend subsidies for Affordable Care Act (ACA) plans.
I am expecting Chuck and Jeffries to surrender in advance.
Oh this time the AIPAC zombies are actually going to do something? I’ll believe it when I see it
The democrats are just asking for all the massive cuts to CRITICAL infrastructure to be returned back to the american people. We PAID for these programs and we DESERVE to have medicaid, better healthcare, and lower taxes. Republicans don’t care about the american people, otherwise they would have voted AGAINST the BBBA.
The democrats are just asking for all the massive cuts to CRITICAL infrastructure to be returned back to the american people.
Republicans will promise them back in the form of tax cuts.
Republicans don’t care about the american people, otherwise they would have voted AGAINST the BBBA.
They care about particular American people and their friends overseas in the EU, Saudi, and Southeast Asian banking sectors.
Republicans will promise them back in the form of tax cuts.
You forgot this part: “… For the rich”
these comments. Alls I see is the dems should do something and when they do alls I see is. They don’t really mean it. Its funny. Dems in power and the right says everything bad is dems fault and the left says everything is dems fault. Reps in power and the right says everything bad is dems fault and the left says yeah the dems are responsible. ugh. with american left who needs the right.
The 4th of july funding bill needed a cloture vote by senate dems that they never should have given. I hold no ill will to house democrats but the senate democrats fucked up big time.
Lmao couldn’t have put it better myself.
It’s helpful to keep in mind that there’s nothing democratic about the DNC it’s just a bunch of old people colluding with corporations and propping up geriatrics as a vanity show. They haven’t even offered their voters the illusion of representation in decades. They are all cooperators in this. They do budget show downs every year, at this point it’s just to create some bond volatility.
Its the party trying to maintain the current system and improve it incrementally. The real problem is that as long as the republicans win they have no real incentive to improve much. If republicans perennially lost to the point of being inconsequential the party would quickly split.
I’d argue Democrats have instead intentionally hampered any real progress, not trying to improve it “incrementally.” Or at least, they sure don’t seem to mind when the Republicans stop them from doing anything worthwhile over the last 20 years.
I disagree. Last 20 years have had 12 years of democrats which resulted in obamacare, dodd-frank, end to don’t ask don’t tell, fair pay act, daca, iran nuclear deal, paris accord, restoration of cuban relations, loan forgiveness (despite all the stuff knocked down they still got the save plan), getting rid of non competes. Yeah and some were knocked down by republican actions but thats the problem. Then you add that a lot of time was dealt with stimulus from the bad economic practices of republicans again and having to wind down their wars. Its like your blaming them for not improving the building when they have to spend most of the time putting out the fires. Get rid of the people starting the fires and plenty of progress can be made.
I’ve been on this planet for almost 40 years now and frequently talk to my 95 year old grandma about politics and world affairs. Things stopped getting incrementally better a long time ago and have gotten incrementally worse. We made small advances forward in between giant leaps back the last 25 years. All of this dictatorship business has been planned and implemented slowly over decades. The degradation of the middle class has been a bipartisan effort. There’s really no more room to pretend like trumps charisma has carried this strange new world, and not the careful planning of the political class and the billionaire class… supported by the millionaires thinking they can be in the club. It’s just self perpetuating rot on both sides.
improvements happen but its been two steps back and one forward since reagan and more more like 3 since bush jr and now we seem to be taking a dozen back. Take out the republican controlled periods and we would have advanced pretty decently and that is without all the time wasted recovering all the back steps.
The democrats preyed on the culture war first. They used it to cement their base. This is their monster too. It was easier to stalemate controversial topics than provide leadership, and lawmaking.
Im not sure if they preyed on it first. I mean there is plenty of stuff that goes waaaayyyyy bck. But yeah its bad and a both sides thing, or as close to one as your gonna get. Basically politics is bad.
I agree with that for the most part. Democrats never solved the inequality, education, and Fox News indoctrination in time. I see no way out of it at this point. That’s on them for focusing on small minority issues instead of policy that helps the majority of voters.
I agree with what I believe to be your meaning. They often would latch onto small or fringe things when education, healthcare, work rights, and such would help so much more. If you look at something like gay marriage its like great and all but there was so many fixes at the state level and such that it did not do much but give a feel good victory. Meanwhile obamacare with the pre existing conditions booted had likely a much more beneficial effect for people who were gay. Gun control is another one. I mean both are things I believe in but education, healthcare, work rights, safety nets in general is what helps the most.
Let’s look at this democratically, if you are not part of the 50% of this country that is being pushed into poverty, how on earth are you going to protect your assets when it’s 60-70% of this country that’s been pushed out of the middle class? We are at the point of wealth inequality where it makes no sense for the average citizen to keep voting to subsidize billionaires businesses and tax returns. Yet we still get massive turnout for status quo. Watching you assholes vote to transfer my wealth and future to a billionaire every year to protect a suburban lifestyle that is as parasitic to your country and planet as could be imagined. I’m not trying to come to terms with anyone lol I don’t speak for a political ideology I’m just a disgusted American who has been completely disenfranchised from society in the last 30 years. All the ladders pulled up and you think your spot is this society is safe. Yes literally all of you are my enemy. Squandered the education that a great nation gave you and watch as a dictator erases your history and rights lmfaooo. I’m just want to witness the divine retribution for everyone’s folly. We’re past the point of redemption. We’d look better as a radioactive crater than we do right now: and judging by the posture of leadership, I think that one is still on the table. Personally I’d just pray to your god as we set the table for WW3
Obama care was a personal favorite. It forced me to pay the government $3000 for not having insurance, or paying an insurance company $3000 a year for having worthless insurance I wasn’t going to use. Like we easily could do Medicaid for all and regulate pharmaceutical companies insurance companies. We could open competitive government run options to keep insurance honest and away from Medicare…. We chose like the health care plan that benefited insurers and inspire Luigi
Obamacare: our biggest legislative victory in over 20 years. Results are in it consolidated power in the hands of insurance companies who abused it for profit.
Gay marriage was actually a great one for the dems, it was already popular. They didn’t even push it. They waited until it was safe and then moved it through. Took credit for a public change in perspective that they did not participate in. If they cared about education, they could’ve easily restored it after Bush left, but they conveniently let everyone become illiterate. They’ve always just had really poor stances on guns, never the kind of compromising policy that would actually be entertained by anyone.
We all believe in education, workers rights, civil rights, infrastructure: at least for ourselves. The only people that don’t believe in that shit we keep electing to Office. It’s both sides of the party. They both believe in making a lot of money for the people that donate to them and keep them in power.
improvements happen but its been two steps back and one forward since reagan and more more like 3 since bush jr and now we seem to be taking a dozen back.
Then incrementalism has either failed or has succeeded in making things worse.
righty oh. need to get rid of those pesky forward steps to really make progress. /s
You support an ideology that has failed. Spectacularly. If you support incrementalism knowing how useless it is, it’s because you like how useless it is.
It’d probably go better for the Dems, if they didn’t have the exact same donors as the Republikkklans do. You don’t want ANY politician, of any stripe, to have their first (and only?) loyalty to people that pay them more than voters do.
Unfortunately thats a pretty high bar. Anyone who wins will get donations from the large players and turning them down would be foolish. Definately need to get rid of citizens united and bring back regulation for donations and the media and such.
It’s a bar that much of the rest of the world seems to have cleared quite well. What you Americans call “donations” and “lobbying”, the rest of us call Bribery. Your attitude explains American gun rights, too, where many of you think you have a god given right to own military hardware, even as your neighbors kids are being butchered by those same weapons. The rest of the world has mostly addressed gun rights in a civilized way, and only Americans think like that, and think gun legislation is hard. You NEED to start holding your do nothing politicians to the fire, about these issues. You NEED to do it years ago. Not everything needs to be about profit and money.
Republicans will just use this to dismantle more of the government while blaming the democrats and the democrats will walk blindly into this because people who will never vote for them can’t see the truth.
If they dint oppose the administration at every turn, they are complicit
If they spent 20 to 40 years, watching the Republicans formulate this plan and did nothing to oppose it they are complicit
Double fair
The news is a joke. I dont watch meet the press, but my wife had it on briefly this morning and the discussion was the shutdown. They all sat there and gave zero reasons why it is acceptable for them to do this and even used a story about how it effects real Americans who live paycheck to paycheck. Not one of them stated anything about how the Republicans are about to remove billions from health care or any other valid argument for why it is needed. It’s sad that the news is controlled this much.
Doge and Trump have been working hard at shutting down everything the government does that actually serves the citizens despite having the funds. But at the same time they’re spending trillions in making the country a fascist nightmare with secret police and concentration camps.
What’s the downside to a shutdown?
Add to it that President Trump has been ignoring the funding allocated through congress. Even if the Democrats negotiate the perfect deal, President Trump could simply not spend the money.
I don’t know how it would work specifically, but I do worry that there will be some way that they can use the shutdown to further consolidate power. I’m sure these devious fucks will find a way.
They’re not intelligent, per se, but they do have a sort of low cunning that terrifies me.
Trump is a fucking idiot.
But many of the others are very intelligent. When Trump dies on the toilet they’ll appear way more sophisticated when they aren’t having to fellate him while pursuing their evil agenda.
Actually, does a shutdown inadvertently defund ICE, at least temporarily?
unlikely. Essential personnel and all.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Sure, Jan.
roll over!! Whos a good boy?
Props to them if they can keep the turncoats in check and actually stick to their guns.
That said, I’ll believe it when I see it.
I’ll believe it when I see it, and I don’t think there’s any fucking way we’re going to see it.
“This time I can trust peppermint patty”
-Charlie Brown
How dare you besmirch Peppermint Patty’s name, she’s a trustworthy girl. Lucy van Pelt on the other hand…
My peanuts lore be lackin
All good homie. Patty was always one of my favorites, I liked her green plaid shirt
Are Patty and Marcie a couple? They were in my head, but that could be some lesbian fetishism from my toxic masculinity…
I don’t think there have been any official incarnations where they’re together, however it is a popular ship in fan-made content, so it’s not just you.
There aren’t any real romantic relationships in the series, apart from some of the characters having crushes on each other. (Sally on Linus, Charlie on an unnamed red haired girl, etc.)
IIRC Patty was always played as a tomboy who had a crush on Charlie Brown. Marcie was just this meek girl who followed Patty around as she was socially awkward and didn’t know how to connect with others and Patty was just very open and nonjudgmental.
I always felt Marcie’s use of “Sir!” for Patty was an acceptance and respect for Patty’s tomboy-ness, which is why I ship.
But, yeah, after seeing the replies and checking the Wikipedia article, I think I do remember some scenarios that made Patty’s attraction to “Chuck” coupled with his obliviousness the punchline.
No, not canonically at least and would’ve been very taboo in the 50’s anyway. The original comics didn’t really cover relationships between any of the characters outside of Sally’s crush on Linus, Lucy’s crush on Schroedinger, and Charlie’s crush on The Little Red-Haired Girl. I can just about guarantee though that there is fanfic out there somewhere shipping the two of them.
It has been nine brutal months for congressional Democrats.
Oh please.
