• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Seems a lot of people here don’t want the war to be over.

    Ya know you could get together with your activist friends and be happy? You don’t actually need to meet each over a shared hatred of people.

  • slaacaa@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    The war in Gaza has ended and the Middle East is going to “normalize”, Donald Trump said on Sunday as he flew to Israel which was waiting for Hamas to release Israeli hostages as world leaders were gathering to discuss the next steps toward peace.

    “The war is over, you understand that,” Trump told reporters onboard Air Force One as he began a flight from Washington DC to Israel.

    Asked about prospects for the region, Trump said: “I think it’s going to normalize.“

  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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    1 year ago

    We’re talking about a ceasefire here, not peace. Trump is being dumb as usual.

    I’d love for the ceasefire to actually succeed this time - hopefully perpetually, leading to actual peace.

    But that wouldn’t mean Palestine’s plight is over - that would only be the beginning for seriously working on a two state solution. And not a master and a vassal state either.

    Looking back almost a century, somehow I’m not too optimistic.

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      1 year ago

      I didn’t stop and verify, but I’ve literally just seen a post on here which says that Israel has violated the ceasefire 3 days running at this point.

  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Far from over! The brothers, Isaac and Ishmael, regrouping to continue their family blood feud over dried rocks.

    • Doorbook@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      A person from ( Russia , Poland, USA , Iraq, Iran ) is not a brother to a person from Palestine.

  • krimson@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    War is done is more accurate. Goals achieved. Ready to build the next Dubai and make some rich people even richer.

    • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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      1 year ago

      I hear the bones of women and children are great to build the foundations of tourist hotels on.

      • Doorbook@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        They literally killed two waving white flags.

        Like imagine you survive a bombing, get out, see you fellow soldiers flags, wave to them, and they shoot you.

        What amazing that no one talking about it like it never happened…

        • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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          1 year ago

          The reason your movement doesn’t get credibility is because you can’t recognize that massacring people because of their ethnicity (what Hamas did) is genocide. If you’re claiming that Hamas didn’t commit genocide while also claiming Israel has, that requires some serious mental gymnastics to reconcile. But you’re not even trying to reconcile the discrepancy in how you consider the the actions of Hamas vs. how you consider the actions of Israel. You feel like if you just shout loud enough, engage in harassment campaigns to intimidate people from discussing the topic, you can control the narrative.

          And you can control the narrative in small corners of the internet like this. But then what? You support a violent movement that tortures people to silence dissent. Do you ever ask “are we the baddies?” or do you continue down the dark path without questioning anything?

          • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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            1 year ago

            What’s my movement?

            So yes you don’t actually know or want to acknowledge what genocide is.

            Do you ever ask “are we the baddies?”

            Mate I think you need to look in the mirror

          • dubyakay@lemmy.ca
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            1 year ago

            Israel has been exterminating Palestinians since the Nakba. This didn’t start on October 7, 2023.

            Maybe you should ask your last question from yourself.

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    1 year ago

    So Israel is pulling its people out of occupied territory, providing restitution for war crimes and trying and punishing war criminals then right? Right?!

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        1 year ago

        Arguably there are still Israelis occupying Palestinian territory, roving Israeli gangs just murdered a journalist in Gaza, let alone the wider palestine

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          1 year ago

          Those were Palestinians living in Gaza, Doghmush clan. This might be news to you but not all Palestinians in Gaza are happy with the way Hamas governs the area.

          Now that Hamas has the ability again, they focus on oppressing Palestinians.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Isn’t Israel a compulsory-service country where all citizens spend a year training as a soldier? Its funny that they’re called hostages when captured, not prisoners. Hostages are when you kidnap non-combatants like poor people living without secure food or water.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      These are the civilian hostages taken by Hamas on the October 7th attack, not Israeli POWs.

    • Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      I’ll add that from what I’ve seen, about half of the Israelis get an exemption for various reasons.
      (Physical or mental issues, religion - Muslims are exempted by default and almost all ultra-orthodox Jews, pacifists, etc)

    • slaacaa@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      The youngest Israeli hostage taken on 7th of October was less than a year old, I don’t think he already finished his compulsory military service.

      Israel is doing despicable things, but let’s not pretend that Hamas is innocent.