• mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world
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    wonder what eventually makes everyone ragequit on the ricing part lol

    for me? it was the battery management and suspend/hibernate stuff. You need to do a lot of weird file configs to get them working.

    I riced i3wm, dwm and even exwm and suspend/hibernate problem would pop up now and then.

    On a full DE? Shit just works.

    I do miss ricing though. Especially window managers, I can just git clone my dotfiles and have everything setup in seconds.

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      The first time you do a presentation and forget how to add an external display, that was what made me stick with a full DE.

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      rookie number i know but I don’t wanna waste anymore time than I already did, gotta spend those time for DE/WM hopping :P

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    Hey linuxmemes, I’ve got a question, can I straight up install linux on a windows computer and have access to all my files as they’ve been laid out by windows, or am I going to have to use an external backup to move my files ‘out of windows’ and ‘into linux’?

    Like I’m getting sicker and sicker of windows pulling their whole attitude of " Weve got an update for you, give us all your data. Give it. What do you mean “right to privacy”? That’s only for companies and billionaires."

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      Many linux installers give you the option of using the free space in your Windows drive for a linux partition (Linux mint is one example). Then you would have what is called a dual boot setup. It means every time you start your computer, you can choose Linux or Windows.

      Then you disable bitlocker in your windows partition, and you can access all the files there from linux.

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            Nah, decryption is easy because it’s based on standards.

            But you’re right about the NTFS support. I only use it to read data from external drives. I tried to use it to have a dual boot setup with a shared Steam library but that had some issues.

            I’ve since completely dumped Windows, problem solved.

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      You’ll need to migrate your files somehow. Installing linux over windows generally entails reformatting, which will erase everything.

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      The answers might have confused you due to the unfortunate phrasing of the question. Let me clarify:

      -Linux installation requires a separate partition. This can be your D:/ drive from Windows, a completely new physical drive, or a partition you free up on any drive using the Windows Disk Management. -This partition will be wiped upon installation. Back everything up from there. -All other partitions, including drive C:/, will be fully accessible from Linux. -Your Linux partition will not be visible from Windows. There are ways to interact with it from there, but they are neither convenient nor fully functional, and you probably shouldn’t rely on it.

      Overall, it’s always a good strategy to back up everything important before installing a new system or reinstalling old one, but you probably know this already and this is not a strict technical requirement - just a peace of mind tip.

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      Much better to install Linux, install a virtual machine (GNOME Boxes) in which you run what you still need Windows for, and access files via a Samba service as shared files.

      Or just switch to Linux, and copy your files. It is good for daily use.

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      If all of your partitions are in a single NTFS drive it probably wise to make a backup, if it in a separate drive you can access it in Linux (read only, if you want to write into it you need to install “ntfs-3g” package)

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      Contrary to other comments, it’s actually pretty common and easy to install Linux alongside Windows, if you have a harddrive big enough for both. If you want to have both installed, it is recommend to start with Windows because Linux boot loader can recognise Windows partition and integrate it with no problem. And Linux natively supports ntfs so you can seamlessly access all your files absolutely no problem. But if it’s your first time installing Linux it’s easy to mess up and kill the windows partition if you aren’t good with terminology yet, so backing up all your files is not just recommended but straight up required.

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      Generally, no. You can’t install Linux onto a Windows filesystem (NTFS). What you can do is one of these things:

      • Back up the files you care about (Desktop, Documents, Downloads, whatever) in Google Drive, Dropbox, a thumb drive or anywhere else that you can access later. Then you can tell the Linux installer to wipe Windows and afterwards put your important files back.

      • If you have a spare SSD you can put Linux on that. Then you can access the Windows drive from Linux. You might have to install an NTFS driver first, and you will definitely need to configure Windows to shut down properly instead of secretly hibernating, because that leaves the filesystem in a weird state and Linux won’t be able to open it.

      • If you don’t have a spare SSD you can still do the same trick by shrinking the Windows/NTFS filesystem and installing Linux in the now-free space on the same drive. Among Sysadmins shrinking filesystems has a bad reputation because at least historically it could (rarely) fail and destroy all your data, so I would not recommend you do it but it is possible and in most cases it works without issues.

      Each of these comes with some risk - You might forget to copy over important files onto your thumb drive, or you might make a mistake in the Linux installer and accidentally delete Windows when you didn’t mean to. That said you should already have a backup strategy, because your PC could also just spontaneously die and lose the data even if you do nothing. If you have backups and you’ve tested them to know that you really can restore all the files you care about, then even that first option stops looking very scary.

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      As I understand it, ricing a machine is to excessively modify it to achieve more speed, users of Gentoo being the origina ricers in the Linux world.

      The term itself has dubious and arguably racist origins, in the world of modification of Japanese cars for street racing.

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        The way I understand it, it’s specifically not to gain more speed, but completely focused on aesthetics. Themes, background, and other touches to make it look pretty, and perhaps some UX aspects too.

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        I thought ricing was when asian street food vendors would make their small food carts all fancy looking?

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      Incorrect, or dumb use of a term originating from modifying Japanese cat to street racing, also racist term.

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      Excessively modifying your system, most commonly in how it looks, spending dozens of hours making it look just right.

      Not sure of etymology

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        The etymology is from a racist street racing term. In the street racing scene, the garishly over-done modifications (often combined with anime wraps) were popular in parts of Asia. So those styles of cars were referred to as “rice burners” when Asian drivers inevitably ended up at car meets. And modifying the car in such a way was called “ricing” it. As in, Asians eat a lot of rice, and it looks like an Asian modified that car.

        That’s pretty much it. That’s the etymology. Some people will try to claim that “RICE” is actually an acronym. But that’s a common lie, to allow those people to continue using the racist term without feeling guilty. The term “rice burner” existed long before the backronym did. And somehow, the term eventually found its way into the Linux world. And Linux fanboys will screech about how it’s not a racist term, but it is.

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      you know the Fast and the Furious movies? at least the original 2 or 3, those cars were all tricked out with neon lights, decals, nitros, custom exhaust, all that? most of those cars were Japanese cars that were heavily modified. Basically it was a derogetory term for modifying a piece of shit car to look good, Especally if it was a Japanese car. you slap a body kit on it, neon lights, slap in some bucket seats, switch out the exhaust, but you dont’ touch the engine. that’s a “Ricer” it’s not a good thing in that specific car culture.

      So for whatever reason someone at some point was modifying their Desktop Environment or Window Manager with neon borders and all that and decided to call it a Rice. You’re essentially modifying your OS without touching the “engine” so to speak. You’re just slapping a body kit, neon lights, some bucket seats etc onto your operating system.

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        Read the same in the past. If I remember correctly, someone added “Ricer” and “Rice” is racism, too.

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          yeah some consider it a racist term because it originally applied specifically to Japanese Cars. i.e. Asian cars, Asians like eating Rice, POS modified Car isn’t a “Racer” it’s a “Ricer”.

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              It’s one of those things, is it worse that it’s used without understanding that it was initially a racist term?

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              It takes a lot of introspection and work to get past culturally ingrained bigotry. I was a teenager in the 90s. Back then, and still through the 2000’s via internet culture, everyone and everything was a “fag”. I didn’t recognize that it was a problem until way later than I should have, and I still almost say it sometimes. I don’t have any problem with gay people. It’s just a weird form of muscle memory. People don’t understand that listeners don’t know what their intentions are. They just know what you said. You gotta internalize that fact before you can change your language.

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      Honestly, usually the only thing I HAVE to change. Idk why all the default distro wallpapers suck

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        They do don’t they.

        It’s my biggest complaint about Linux, and on-boarding new users.

        The last thing a new user should see is some janky ass looking wallpaper.

        I think ElementaryOS and maybe Zorin were the only two that had clean looking OOTB theme and wallpaper.

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    It’s different to work with than just about any Linux distro out there, but <doing anything then regretting it> works kinda well with NixOS. Sure it’s different than all the other Linux distros and prob has a steeper learning curve as well - but once you get into it you’ll never have to reinstall again, you can apply any config with 1 command, revert to earlier build-versions if a change would break the system. Great stuff!

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      I’m on the verge of swapping off windows 10 to Nobara. Besides this comment do you have any points that could sway me toward Nix?

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        I do agree with what @Decq@lemmy.world said. For most users is preferable to start of with a simpler distro. The biggest difference between other distros and NixOS is its declarative nature, and that its config files are written in the functional language Nix. This will most likely feel overwhelming, especially if your not accustomed to functional languages.

        I think a better approach would be to go with the distro you mentioned, then when you gotten more used to the ins and out, perhaps have a look at installing Nix the package manager in Nobara (the same name as the language is confusion), or perhaps Home Manager. The later manage programs and config also declaratively, but only for users and not on a system level.

        All in all, in most use cases NixOS and its declarative, immutable, reproducable and indestructive model is overkill. Its mostly only worth it if you have multiple computers that need to share config, systems that must work 100% of the time or if you’re a sucker for declarative approaches (like i am, i’ve also daily driven Linux for 18 years, and is a hobby programmer, so it was a lot easier to get into Nix/NixOS with that I think).

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        Personally I probably wouldn’t advise NixOS to someone new to Linux. I think it’s best to get familiar with how linux does things in a more conventional setup first. And then transition to a declarative setup. But it kinda depends on the person as well, and how willing they are to learn and how comfortable they are with writing such a config.

        That said, I would be very curious how the switch straight from Windows to NixOS would be experienced by someone. So if you do so, feel free to post your experience on the NixOS community :)

  • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zip
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    I discovered since using a tiling WM þis happens far, fast less frequently. Sometimes I change þe font in Polybar, but for me þe value of þe bar is in consistency and being able to find information at a glance, so I only rarely mess wiþ layout or widgets.

    When þere’s very little to rice, you don’t waste time ricing.

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    CachyOS has been great if anyone is looking for an arch based distro that’s preconfigured for gaming out of the box.

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        Agree 100%. My only hesitation with bazzite is fedora’s insistence that 32bit needs to go. Once that support ends, bazzite is on a death clock. Otherwise I’d say bazzite over cachy.

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    Honestly I even get rid of the taskbar too. I’ll float the system tray at approximately the same place but either let it hide behind everything or fill the space above it with a specific window (mirrored phone screen) with fixed size. Now that I’m typing it out though, I’m going to investigate auto-hiding it until a keybind reveals it in front of all windows.

    I switch programs exclusively with alt+tab regardless and KDE’s launcher fulfills the super-menu functionality. I want a fresh session login to open to just my wallpaper. No icons, no task bar, no tray, nothing. An anti-rizz if you will.

    I like the aesthetic and see it as a (tongue-in-cheek) method of security by obfuscation. I pair that with completely blank keycaps on my keyboard and suddenly 99% of the population doesn’t know how to interact with my machine.

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        Same, I’m not a native English speaker, so I only know it used for the food. Never heard it in an offensive or racial context.

        My guess is that it’s associated with Asia and as such used with an implied offensive meaning (maybe something along „you rice eater“)?

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          yeah i thought the same thing. nobody answered me yet tho so i guess we’ll never know

          edit: ok i’ve discovered it. apparently it initially meant something about modding cars that were imported from asia. i’m not sure if i got that part correctly. then people started using the term rice to mean modding cars in general, and the linux/unix community started using the word to mean editting/modding the computer’s UI.

          so basically it originally was racist, but now it just means modding, so i don’t see how it could be considered racist.

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      Galaxy brain: upvoting all the posts that use “customizing” or any of the other perfectly viable alternatives
      … there is only one