$400 console
The only thing that qualifies is an Xbox series S, even Switch 2 is $450 lmao.
Even funnier when you consider “PC” consoles like Steam Deck or Legion which gives you a even wider access to games, including exclusives thanks to emulation.
Hell Sony and Microsoft gave up on the console exclusive system because PC & Steam demonstrated the expanded market is worth the tradeoff when your console hardware is basically a computer.
That didn’t used to be the case even up to the PS4 when the hardware was still targeted for games like high VRAM, but that’s no longer the case.
It gets even better with Switch emulation because it was a glorified Android tablet that was already outdated on arrival, meaning you can play Switch games even on your phone thanks to ARM instruction pass-through techniques.
Me with my 5090 I have only played 4.5 games on because I hate dark patterns
Wait the section on “Psychological Dark Patterns” sounds kind of over inclusive. Leveling up and progressing are thing that give a sense of accomplishment. Granted, things like cs2 skins are a form of manipulation. But you can’t tell me that making a build on a game like DND or building a world you like on Minecraft are “dark patterns”
Leveling up and progressing are thing that give a sense of accomplishment.
Indeed. They are built to trigger your reward system rather than having you feel that naturally from the gameplay.
I absolutely think those are included and utterly hate grinding.
But you can’t tell me that making a build on a game like DND or building a world you like on Minecraft are “dark patterns”
Where are you getting that from there?
Clarification. I’m way to asleep and meant wow, not DND. Forget I said anything. I still think I’m right. But I’m not in the correct state to even formulate coherent sentences
I mean ya… That’s pretty much how I feel.
They will be the same people who say, “I only spent a little bit more than a console, but look how much better it is. What’s the point of a console anymore?”
Well nowadays the main argument for me become what to play on console? There no exclusives games anymore so why I would buy it if I can build PC which would be universal tool with ability to play most of old games using emulators and connect gamepad ,and modern games available for PC same as to console
Ghost of Yotei is still a PS5 exclusive (and it’s damn good)
My excuse these days is… I already built the damned thing. If there’s a game I want to play I can just upgrade it for (in most cases) less than the cost of a console + game to play the new game I want. PC gaming offers a lot of flexibility in that way.
I brought the ps5 around when it released. At the time, prices for pc parts were crazy. I decided to get the ps5 due to that, and it was a solid choice at the time. I was finally able to build a PC near the end of 2023 when prices dropped. I wanted a higher end one, so it still cost me around 2k. I love both of them.
As for the exclusives, there were some and even timed ones to me count a little. I played god of war, horizon, and final fantasy rebirth and 16 day one. I also enjoyed astro bot and its follow up, spider man miles, racket and clank, last of us 2, and ghosts of tsushima. Im still on tbe fence of getting ghosts of yotei, but it’s also a limited exclusive. You also have upcoming games like Marvels Wolverine, Intergalactic: the heretic project, and knights of the old republic. Its getting to be less and less, but i also think it has a lot to do with how long it takes for a game to come out on top of not forcing games as much as they used to.
I understand this is a joke, but 15k? Wtf. I think you meant server, not PC
Flagship Nvidia is around $10k. Easy to spend at least another $5k on the rest of the computer+setup (monitors, peripherasls…).
That isn’t something normal people buy you can spend any amount on anything but its really fringe rich people shit.
I did not even realize you could run games on these GPUs… I guess I learn something every day. It would still be hard to spend 5k on the rest of the PC without throwing money away on visuals and other performance unrelated stuff, but I guess you may be able to do it depending on what you still consider performance improvements…
That’s not a gaming GPU, that’s workstation GPU. Meme says “gamers”. I genuinely don’t think you can spend 15k even if you went for limited edition.
An ROG 5090 Dhahab Edition is half of the $15k. Add a boutique case, custom cooling loop, overkill RAM and storage, and you just might hit $15k. Definitely a stretch though.
The number gets higher and higher every time a console dweeb makes the argument that they’re not constantly fucking themselves.
It would be great if consoles could be used as computers, selecting which use you want on boot. With the current console’s power they could be used as a regular computer.
So a Steam Deck basically
That’s pretty much a Steam Deck. I’m assuming the Fremont will be the same.
The others could do it too.
Console makers would never allow it. They want them locked down so they have absolute control.
Do you remember the Net Yaroze?
Rumor has it that’s what the next gen XBox is going to be.
Like any hobby, they have their own expenses. I only bought a PS5 to play GTAVI early
Console hardware has always been a loss leader
Over 7 years, you’d have to pay $560 to play online on a PS5, assuming they don’t increase the price again. The cheapest PS5, without the disc drive (which is a bad decision if you like cheap games), costs $500.
You can easily build a PC more powerful than a PS5 for $1060, and that’s before you factor in cheaper games.
Over those 7 years, you get 252 free games for the PS5. Meaning the average value of those games has to be like 2.2 for the subscription to pay for itself
They’re not free, you had to pay to access them. The 252 are useless unless you play them and not just a half-dozen titles you like.
And once the sub stops you lose access to the games.
You know what you do get to keep? The games Epic gets giving out to bribe people into using their launcher. I’ve hoarded over 200 games from them, of which I’ve played maybe 30.
$400 plus a subscription for the privilege of playing online + some amount of money for a computer anyway
I gave up on PC gaming years ago. Turns out sitting on a coach and being 10’ ft away from a screen is way easier on my body and my eyes than being hunched over a desk 1’ away from a monitor.
Also no driver incompatibility bullshit. Most console games just work w/o me having to custom edit .ini or other files.
Dam is this a copy pasta? 😅
You actually had to edit files? Outside of me breaking things first (yay mods) I’ve only had to edit 1 file ever, and that was mass effect 1 on an old and laptop that was uhh… not suitable for the task given to it.
Have you used a PC since 1993? There have been new developments.
Guys, you don’t have to downvote someone because they have an experience that happens to be many standard deviations away from the mean. This is what consoles are for. Nintendo still shines for people like this :)
You can plug a PC into a TV and even use Xbox and PS controllers if you like. Can have the PC auto start Steam in Big Screen mode so you’d seldom need to use a mouse+KB (trackballs or keyboards with trackpads are best in this scenario). Nothing wrong with console gaming though (well, besides supporting all the non-free software, locked-down systems, and shit companies; but most games you likely play are these as well).
that’s too much work. i have to setup controller profiles. i have to update drivers. i have to custome mod drivers or game files to get them to run.
my playstation… just fucking works. zero effort required. download game, play game. everything is done for me. my time goes into actually playing the game.
baffles me that y’all can’t see the mass appeal of that simplicity. not everyone is a linux nerd who wants to write custom drivers to play a game or load buggy emulators.
most peopel just want to play a game and enjoy it. not deal with endless bullshit.
There
I did this a while back. To be fair a “mini” ITX case is still relatively enormous, and I stopped upgrading it when graphics cards turned into magic beans for crypto-bros and got mega expensive.
Also no driver incompatibility bullshit. Most console games just work w/o me having to custom edit .ini or other files
What century do you think this is?
last pc game i loaded was fallout 4 a few years ago. required like 2-3 hours to get it to run without crashing.
every old game i have from gog… all require custom mods to work. usually have to pull up a thread in the forums that has the solution and it’ always some custom edit. otherwise the game crashes repeatedly.
my ps5 can play the same old games and they just… work. zero effort required. zero crashes. also looks a lot nicer on a 60" OLED than on a 24" LED.
You must have given up not years, but decades ago.
How did I know the comments would be full of people taking the joke way too seriously.
Shit posts attract shitheads
The only people who care about shit like this are the people who don’t play video games.
A lot of you don’t play video games.
Why do people keep reposting this shit?
Which console costs 400$?
Which reasonably price optimized PC costs 15k$?
Yes PCs are more expensive than consoles, but they also hold more value, are more versatile and have lower costs for the Games themselves.
To each their own, we’re alle gamers.
Fine, im in Canada and a ps5 costs $500 and a decent current gen gaming pc costs about $3000 where I am. And no I am no interested in building a pc anymore than I am building a ps5. So off the shelf you’re looking at a 1.5-2k pc just to match the ps5. So not 15k but easily triple the cost of a ps5.
What I like about consoles is that I know the game will always work on my console. I could buy a top end pc and it won’t play next years top games that well
Idk about the prices in canada but 3000 CAD shouldn’t give you a “decent current gen gaming pc”. This is already high end territory where you’re already burning money unnecessarly just to have the latest an greatest. For 2500 CAD you can get a prebuild 9070 XT + 7800X3D system (here). This system destroys the PS5 performance wise. I can get 240-300 FPS in the Finals while the PS5 can get a max of 120 FPS in performance mode with hits to the visual fidelity.
And yes a PS5 is 579 CAD as far as I can see, so a lot cheaper.
However as I stated a PC can run way more different games even without taking emulation into account. Furthermore on PS5 you have to pay 110 CAD/year to play online and PC games generally are cheaper than console games. So there is a significant amount of money you’ll save on the software.
Additionally you kinda are forced to buy a new console when the new generation arrives while I can use my PC for the newest games as long as I want to or the hardware just can’t handle it anymore.
And lastly a PC can also be used for non gaming stuff. You can even get use of the performance for 3D modeling, Video editing, running LLMs or whatever.
So as I stated before both have their use cases, a PC is definetly more expensive up front buy it also just offers more value. At the end it doesn’t matter and everyone can play games on the hardware they want to.
The console is subsidized by the games being more expensive. In the emd, the console is more expensive but you have it ready-to-use. While you have more choice on PC and can mod the games. To each their own.
The games are the same cost on pc for the same game.
For me it works better in the end, i pop it in and I know it’s gonna run. Also my library system has games, even on release day. And I use psplus, So I haven’t paid full for a game in a while.
You can also save a vintage console. PCs just get old
TFW the good games are on console and you dont need to pay 2k to play them.
stupid meme for stupid people that don’t actually know how much a pc costs
