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If you’re not paying for it, you are the product; except for with 🍏 and then it’s both.
Calm down Android fanboy, Google does the same
Open Street Maps doesn’t do any of this bullshit.
They literally didn’t say anything about Android or Google…
That is correct.
Oh, well, if Google does it then it must be okay.
Idk what you’re talking about, I program my own OSs in assembly language and solder my own hardware from e-waste. Get gud normie.
Fair enough.
they did pay 1000$+ phones just to have ads on it.
Just like every Android phone that comes pre-loaded with trash apps you have to delete.
i bought a min OP12R, i had delete a couple apps i dont use on it. A carrier issued phone has even worst bloat. I just disabled most of the google ones, like play, and WALLET because it kept activating tag (fare machine)on public transport, i had to do a work around since there wasnt an easy way to completely eliminate that.
Depends on the ads though.
Everything is shitty! 🎶
OrganicMaps isn’t.
Still not serious about their maps eh.
you say that like google doesn’t do this even worse.
I still remember all those Apple Maps memes.
“What the fuck you gonna do? Use Android?!??! Fuck you and and be happy about it” - Tim Apple, probably
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I don’t know. Probably.
The answer you’re looking for is, “Of course it does!”
Sundar Pichai: “Huh, well I guess we’ll just follow Tim Apple’s lead and start injecting ads in google maps and anyone who uses google maps API too.”
There are already ads in Google Maps, there is nothing for them to follow.
OpenStreetMap for the win, my peoples.
Specifically OSMAnd.
Works perfectly as long as you already know where you’re going!
Google maps only ever knew where you were going because Ingress players and Google “local guides” filled in all the data for them.
Update the out of date data. Its not hard and the more people use it the more accurate the places data will be.
You can complain about why google works better if you want to, but it still does.
Your response also ignores the fundamental problem: even when the data is in open street maps, the search still sucks. No, I didn’t mean any of 20 things in Italy, I meant the Italian restaurant a mile away.
I use OSMAnd and the search is a lot better, not sure what client you are using.
Oh I’m running osmand~ and comaps and magic earth.
And by running I mean I occasionally confirm its still not good enough yet
It is a trade off though.
I may not be able to see the “nearest restaurants with reviews of 4 stars that are open now with no wait times” BUT I have been so many places where google or apple had not updated the map yet and only OSM got me where I was going.
So maybe it is fine to open a commercial map or local review site, or blog, or web page, that is not tracking you for store discovery, then put the address in OSM to actually get there.
And take the time to use street complete when you can, it is really easy and fills in things like hours open, accessibility, etc.
StreetComplete to help fill in the gaps. GeoShare to translate google/apple maps locations to geocoordinates for OSM, and then adding the place in OSMAnd if you login with the OpenStreetMaps editor plugin. This is how those of us who adopted Google Maps early added so much of their data…
And the local community keeps locations up to date
Seen big cities that are great in mapping every flower pot, but have restaurants and shops that don’t exist for over half a decade
Even when they are up to date the search blows.
For me it works perfectly. Try out Organic Maps then?
That’s comaps now that organic is persona non grata
I don’t really know what happened but when your app only works with community support and the community hates you enough to hard fork the app, it’s time to switch.
Might be worth looking deeper into it though, in why the forkers hate the dev.
The only difference between these maps and their data is the effort by the community to update it. Google doesn’t pay people to update places, they entice them with points and advertising. Google and Apple maps would be no different from OSM if no one updated them
sure. doesn’t change the problem, though
(if more people used Street Complete, it would make the problem a lot better)
Whotf even used Apple Maps lol
LosersPeople deep in the apple ecosystem. There’s a surprising number these days.Apparently the Google maps app on ios is very terrible
Friend of mine showed it to me on a quite recent phone and it’s super stuttery and laggy when scrolling around
That’s kinda funny considering what garbage applemaps was when it launched. Google just had to not screw up and I guess they did.
when it launched
Yes. That right there. I switched from Google Maps to Apple Maps and I like it much better. Hell, even the GPS doesn’t play catch up nearly like what Google Maps does. Speed limits are posted for like every street so I know it before I see a sign. It’s more aesthetically pleasing to me than Google Maps as well.
I had the OG Droid, did all the rooting and ROMing on my phones, and went up to the Samsung S8 until I switched. I don’t miss Android, but I’m not a power user either.
A little strange that you think Samsung makes Android phones.
Ooh. Ok, so can you elaborate on this?
Samsung breaks so many things about android and makes them unequivocally worse that it’s hard to call it android
Honestly, I use it all the time now since I plug in my phone to my car and it’s right there.
It’s fine. Sometimes I use Google Maps. It’s also fine.
I actually like Apple’s approach to describing when to turn. It’ll say stuff like “go past this light and turn at the next” instead of vague shit like “in 1000 feet turn right.” Bitch, I don’t have a tape measure.
I think people who grip about Apple Maps as it is today probably just haven’t used it and want to gripe for griping sake.
I actually do when I am using my car that doesn’t have a smart system/android auto/carplay. The reason is that it will ping/vibrate my watch when I am getting close to a turn or action. That way I know something is coming up. Thats about the only time I use it.
I don’t know if it’s my phone or wifi, when home, but Apple Maps will often be incredibly slow, or just refuse to display tiles when I zoom in or out. Particularly if I change the zoom by quite a bit in one action. It’s very frustrating.
Thereby ensuring I never begin using it.
People use Apple Maps? 🤔
It was miles ahead of the other one because it wasn’t full of stupid ads. That was its one feature. Was.
It’s come a long way to finally being good. This ain’t your grandpa’s orchard variety map.
It still forces you to use yelp app for everything. Gonna be a no from me dawg.
That’s probably my biggest gripe with the app right now. Fingers crossed that they decouple next year.
Yes. I find it easily as good as the alternatives.
Article also mentions targeting Books and a few other apps as well.
Anyone have a solid epub reader on iOS? I frequently use the Books app to read my epubs since I often find myself without my ereader and don’t want to use Kindle.
You’re reading a book and suddenly as the main character reaches in their backpack, he pulls out a cold, dew covered bottle of CERVEZA CRISTAL!
No complaints about Yomu.
I use kobo because I have a kobo reader and you can import any epub into their app and it will work great. Otherwise I like Yomu, it’s got a nice and clean interface.
I’m sure that will really annoy all seven people that use it…
So much for the “Apple is all about privacy whereas Google monetizes you” schtick.
Fuck I just started using it because of how horribly shit google maps has become
I don’t use maps often but what’s been going wrong in Google maps? I know whatever Uber/Lyft was using was having a hard time keeping up with local changes (bridges being shut down for months would stay on every driver’s directions), they’d switch to Google to get an accurate map
It’s still accurate for directions, but search results and map viewing have gone to shit because of google accepting money to highlight certain businesses - taking up huge chunks of the map with their square icons
I uninstalled it when it told me to turn left at the Wendy’s™ instead of a fucking street name. After I missed my turn and got to my destination late, I looked it up and the place it was talking about was visually obscured by another building so I couldn’t have possibly known where to turn. Fuck that noise.
If you don’t need traffic data, CoMaps (uses OpenStreet Map data).
If you do need traffic data (understandable) Magic Earth is what I use. It’s unfortunately not fully open source, only the map data is from OSM, but I find the navigation good 95% of the time, sometimes you have to make your own judgement for if a route might have bad traffic. At least it’s not Google or Apple, and no ads.
I don’t do car play, so I have no idea about how that works.
I wish we had better alternatives
or that cars all exploded and we went to public transport and walkable citiesThanks for the suggestions! I’ll look into it
Supposedly comaps has carplay support as of like 2 months ago, according to a page on their website
Damn I need to try this
