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      Orange Don wants to make sure he can launch them the next time someone calls him names, without anyone being able to stop him

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    And he’s doing this while the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) is furloughed… 🧐

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        Any suggestion of effective tactics to remove the president are met with removal.

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          Have you tried posting on an instance that is not in the US?

          Maybe not straight up assassination, but there’s plenty options that are perfectly legal in most countries. At the very least legal to talk about.

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          I haven’t seen it on .world, but on shitworks they kill any suggestion that violence may be necessary to end the hostile foreign takeover of USA govt.

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            Donald Trump should be killed by the people of the United States, and that killing is not a crime because it is self-defense. This comment will be removed

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              If there is an impeachment (meaning Congress/Senate actually doing their jobs), followed by imprisonment, meanwhile new free elections and finally a trial… If the trial reaches the conclusion the death penalty is what he should get for his crimes, “the US people killing Trump” would be completely legal in any sense of the word and to any foreign, independent observer. People have gotten legal death penalties for much less and in way more dubious circumstances in the USA in rather recent times…

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                When are the shitjustworks guys going to realise this just doesn’t work. These are all rules we already tried to follow, and he keeps making things worse for everyone, while lying and enriching soulless sycophants daily.

                The US democracy doesn’t have that kind of time. The people don’t have that kind of time. The climate and the planet and all of humanity don’t have that kind of time.

                He declared war on everything we stand for. At what point do we just say fuck the rules, off with his head, it’s gone too far?

                You’re still debating, and intellectualising this. It is not a debate if you’re snatched off the street, an unpaid govt worker, or his political foes.

                Think of 3 more really unthinkable borderline illegal things he could do. He will have done 3 of those in the next half year. The incrementalism is how these types win. It must end.

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          Naturally. Lemmy’s on the hook, but particularly the relevant instances, if someone pops off and it appears poor moderation was the cause. Comment removal after 95% of potential readers have already read it, and no ban? That’s about as good as you can get. This place is plenty militant enough

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    And who, exactly, is going to get paid to do that? Last I saw 75% of them were furloughed at the moment.

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        doG help us all:

        the US Department of Energy (DOE) launched an application for interested parties to apply for access to a maximum of 19 metric tonnes — a little under 42,000 pounds — of weapons-grade plutonium, which has long been a key resource undergirding the US nuclear arsenal.

        One of the companies anticipated to receive shipments of the fissile isotope from the DOE is Oklo, a “nuclear startup” backed — and formerly chaired — by OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.

        He really is hellbent on literally destroying America for money.

        However

        As the FT reports, we won’t know for certain until December 31

        So I hope this makes the rounds and steps are taken against it soon.

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          Look, I hate the guy too. However, this probably isn’t bad. Nuclear energy is incredibly safe, and clean. If he wants to use some of his money to build out nuclear power then I’m fine with that. It will almost certainly never make up for the damage done by “AI” but it’s better than not having it.

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      I’m NGL If my job put in the position to be the one testing nukes it would be very tempting to do so even without pay just on a ‘oonga boonga big boom’ basis. Unfortunately I’m educated enough to know how awful that is for the environment, also not a nuclear test engineer or whatever the job title even is.

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      Don’t worry, there will be a company popping up tied to some Republicunts who’ll do the testing for “cheap”.

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      Yes but in what condition? AFAIK most of them are from Cold War times and the Kremlin deliberately suppresses any information on the state they’re in.

      So, America can destroy earth 100-fold, but Russia can destroy it 110-fold - at least until one of them backfires.

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      1. Russia: 4,309–5,459 warheads
      2. United States: 3,700–5,177 warheads
      3. China: 600 warheads
      4. France: 290 warheads
      5. United Kingdom: 225 warheads
      6. India: 180 warheads
      7. Pakistan: 170 warheads
      8. Israel: 90 warheads
      9. North Korea: 50 warheads

      counts vary on how you count mirv payloads, ab’s reliability of information

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        Why would any country need that many? I mean having any is stupid because it will always end in mutually assured destruction but with that many, you could kill us all if you were on the verge of one hitting you.

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          It is mutually-assured destruction. The idea is that there are enough nukes to end all life on earth. Because if there are that many nukes, then nobody would ever use them.

          That’s how the US and USSR came up with these figures when they were disarming at the end of the Cold War.

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          Stupid, legacy calculus but calculus none the less. During the Cold war both sides recognized that a direct or near direct hit on a launch site could potentially negate any chance for retribution or follow up attacks in an otherwise limited/not all out scenario. So they counted the delivery mechanism they could identify, did some multiplication to account for misses and defenses and came up with a number. Then the other side noticed the build up, comes up with same general calculus and runs the same general math to decide how many they need. And this the goes back and forth for decades where each side is building up counters to their rivals counters. And the numbers we have now are actually a reduction from the peak of the Cold war build up.

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            thankfully we at least halted that trend for a while with early warning systems: no longer launch all your nukes and you might take out all of theirs… launch all your nukes and by the time they arrive the retaliatory ICBMS will be 5min from hitting their own targets; likely right on top of you… launch an ICBM and you’re fucked

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          No, and we probably never will. The Russian government certainly doesn’t. When the invasion of Ukraine proper started, a lot of their equipment failed or was missing, and the military wasn’t aware. It had been sold off or just not maintained by the people in charge of it.

          I’m certain the same thing has happened with the nuclear arsenal. The only time it will be used is if you already lost, so what’s the point in spending money on keeping it operational over just having the appearance of it being operational. Your enemy can’t know the difference (especially if you don’t) and it’d be bad to bet on it failing, so it serves exactly the same purpose regardless.

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    Seeing how he likes to demolish parts of the White House perhaps the first test could be on the West Wing, with him being in the Oval Office?

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        It’s supposed to say alleged, now it’s censored to say aged.

        I think it’s a good play on words, tbh, as the alleged part is mostly used to legally cover what is widely known. An innocent person wouldn’t cover up the Epstein list as voraciously as he has.
        And he is very very old, therefore aged.

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          supposed to say alleged, now it’s censored to say aged

          Thanks! And “No ██king” does the same. Kinda funny, kinda clever.

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    He’s been itching to nuke something since his first term. Hurricanes, he suggested at one point. And Americans voted him into office twice. Fucking morons.

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    Can someone just tell him no one else has nuclear fusion power stations yet but (china|EU|Russia) are close and how much money it would make.

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    Ah, the “I had no choice!” argument for scaling up world tension. Yeah, we’ve never heard that one before. Hitler also “had no choice” but to invade Sudetenland, Austria and Poland.

    The “we had no choice” argument is always used to take the victim role as an excuse to justify anything you like. Whether it is joining wars because they sank your illegal weapons shipment hidden in an ocean liner, invading a country because you made it look like they sank your ship, invade a country because a few terrorists attacked your country, invade a country because you claim there might be weapons of mass destruction, send troops and chemical weapons to a dictatorial regime because the freedom fighters threaten your overseas naval base, invade a country for denazification, commit ethnic cleansing, genocide and other horrible war crimes because some terrorist extremists attacked your country after years and years of oppression and apartheid, etc etc etc. There are so many examples in history where this tactic has been used. The entire cold war thrived on this bullshit argument “look at them, I have no choice”.

    “I’m going to do something bad, so I find a way to justify it.”

    • every dictator, agressor, war criminal in history.