I love this art style so much.
funny thing is, this was true 40 years ago, and it’s true today.
Yep. And your generation will do the same, and it will go on like this until it can’t be ignored anymore, because that’s what humans do, whatever the age.
until it can’t be ignored anymore
At which point the fascist governments people have voted into power will keep on going as they were while murdering some convenient scapegoats until mass scale industrialised human society collapses, never to recover because we used up all our resources.
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All that still requires other resources though, and I’m not convinced that something like direct synthesis would be viable considering the energy use – renewables don’t generate energy from thin air, but the systems usually require eg. rare earth materials (which need to be mined, which currently takes oil, and then the systems need to be produced which requires more energy)
It literally cannot be ignored anymore.
“You don’t miss the water until the well runs dry” has never been a more true expression. People expect that if something is going wrong here’d be immediate and apparent consequence. It seems like a vast majority of people completely lack the skill of extended foresight, where one can look at a current situation and see how it can accumulate into a worse situation later.
A great example of this was my mom during COVID-19:
“All this pandemic talk is just nonsense. I’m not seeing people dying on the streets, now, am I?”
If the effects of climate change aren’t immediately apparent with some big global disaster happening overnight, then it’s not a big issue or simply not real.
If eating something that causes long term health risks doesn’t immediately make you sick overnight then it’s not a big issue or simply not real.
As for your last point, that is literally how I feel because I know for a fact that I will die from water wars before it matters
If water wars start in my lifetime, it’s game over for me. I will not let myself live through that shit.
Check out Ethiopia and Egypt, Pakistan and India, China and Vietnam/Laos.
Some are more hot than others but these are all conflicts over lowering water levels and increasing demand. Even within the USA, there are conflicts between states in the southwest and with Mexico over the Colorado river kind of… Just not existing anymore.
That’s what I’m saying, people don’t deal with problems until they’re forced to.
And climate change, while having effects all over the world, doesn’t affect everyone with the same intensity, so the luckiest among us can afford to ignore the problem longer than the rest. Of course the luckiest usually are also the ones with the most power to deal with these issues.
I agree with everything you’re saying.
And unfortunately as a life-long resident of white suburban america, I know how comfortable life still is for so many people, and how the culture of “ignore that problem and we’ll be fine” continues to pay off for people with a little privilege in their life.
Keep kicking it down the street.
Hence my hate for them. Fucking dicks the lot of them.
Boomer: “Climate change will be your burden to suffer through”.
Gen Z: “It’s not fair. You got a full life of profligacy before the effects we’re even noticeable. I get none of the material wealth and I’m going to have to live my whole long life suffering increasing effects of it.”
Boomer: “Not so long.”
Also boomers: “When are you having kids? I want grandchildren.”
Told my mom I didn’t want kids and she said, “Oh you’ll change your mind”
I came out to my mom as gay and she said “well you can always adopt”
Then I started intense birth control treatments for my fucked up reproductive system and she was like, “you can still adopt”
Yeeted my uterus, cervix, and fallopian tubes just before my bday this summer and threw a fuckin party afterwards because now there is absolutely no way I can ever be a parent AND my reproductive system can’t do whatever the fuck it wants cause it doesn’t exist!
My mom finally accepted that this part of the family tree has ended after that. This while process happened over 18 years. I started telling her I didn’t wanna be a parent when I was TEN.
Meanwhile. Most Boomers post adoption
They’re not my real grandchildren.
How my grandmother was when my sister was adopted. Never treated her the same as the rest of the grandkids. Even when my sister helped care for the bitch 24/7 while she was living in our home dying of self-inflicted lung cancer.
I was not sad when my grandmother died, if you can tell.
“well you can always adopt”
As if adoption wasn’t an extremely intensive process that goes on for who knows how many years and even then it’s not guaranteed you’ll actually get the kid. Let alone how much it differs from DIY.
Thank you for your service.
What action in my timeline are you referring to as my service lol
Lol. Not having kids is one of the most ethical choices we can make.
Fuck off. Anti-natalism is eugenics and anyone who advocates for it is a Nazi in my eyes. Not to mention 90% of you all just project your major depression and misery into literal 8 year olds. Please just go to therapy.
Everything you don’t like is Nazi?
Degrowth. It’s not antinatalism, nor eugenics. But simple people need simple answers. It’s ethically shrinking humanity’s population and consumption to within what the earth can sustain. That’s it.
You know what hole to shove your bullshit up.
Ah. See, I don’t want children because I’m what you call a selfish person and want to live my life completely unbound. Kids would just kill my dreams and the vibe.
The ethical part is just a bonus to make me feel even better about my decision.
This guy’s an anti-natalist, I wouldn’t take seriously anything he fucking says.
Selfishness incarnate lol
I once saw it described as the Boomers being the “fuck around” generation and Gen Z being the “find out” generation.
Yes, lets blame GenXers, who despite being in their late 40s and 50s, have almost ZERO power because the boomers wont fucking retire already. We’ve been fighting with boomers over climate change (and everything else) since it was called “global warming” back in the 90s. Don’t put this shit on us when the majority of us don’t want this.
I mean, in us terms, genxers broke the most heavily for trump. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/20/cherie-westrich-alt-rock-gen-x-maga-00033769
We are getting close to a nuclear war. Don’t we want global warming to compensate for the following nuclear winter?
Finally, an optimistic view of the situation.
Humanity’s carbon footprint has been a distraction. All that money and effort (green energy legislation, carbon caps, etc) could’ve been funneled into geoengineering for proper long-term solutions.
Even if humans were eradicated, the habitability of Earth would only be prolonged a bit. So the idea that we just need to emit less carbon is just kicking the can.
Where did you hear that nonsense?
It’s common knowledge that humans are accelerating climate change, they’re not the sole source of it. 🤷
I’m no subject matter expert, but I imagine, if there was scientific consensus as to what’s a sensible geoengineering change to make, then we would be on that immediately. Oil companies could invest a fortune into that and it would still be beneficial for them.
You’re right, and there is no consensus. Companies, and even current governments, are ill-equipped for solving long-term problems. Especially a problem that won’t be a net harm for like 60 years.
My point was that all that money could’ve gone to a real long-term solution which requires a lot of research (and which humanity will need to finance eventually anyways). Reminds me of people who spend more money on car repairs than what the car is worth. They see a mechanic bill of $400 and think it’s cheaper than buying another vehicle. It gets it running for another 4 months. Then a dozen bills later…
“Another 4 months” for current climate change policies is like “another 50 years”… being generous.
Reducing carbon emissions is a temporary solution, buying a couple thousand more years. Taken to its most extreme, it requires human industry to ultimately cease and thus make it even more difficult to solve the problem permanently.
Laughs in veganism (and thus taking personal responsibility for changing, non-hypocrisy and non-virtue signalling and non-deflecting)
…among other things, literally virtue signaling that you’re not virtue signaling.
Lol, it’s not virtue signaling if you’re actually doing something about the issue you claim to care about, and advocate for the purposes of inspiring others to do the same. That’s literally the opposite of virtue signaling, it’s aligning one’s actions with their values, putting their money where their mouth is, and extolling the virtues of doing so to other people if worthwhile.
The problem is Capitalism.
It’s part of it, but not only that
We have a circus we gotta run out of town first
Cynical take from today’s fucked up point of view: The teacher was woke and entirely wrong. The proof is that climate change is still not happening today. Caring for the environment is economic terrorism. There never was anything to worry about in the first place. Drill baby drill.
But climate change IS happening, and already observable.
Yes.
… next question?
Humanity doesn’t do shit unless the problem is holding the door open with a foot stuck between the door. Then the rest of humanity who the problem hasn’t gotten to yet will point and laugh at the person experiencing the problem because reasons. At that point nobody will be too eager to jump and help, lest their door get stuck too by the problem.
How did 14 people understand this
Proper punctuation marks at the end of the comment.
“Now listen here, you little shit…”
Oh no, they’re not just going to let it happen. They’ll actively stop us from solving it.
But the windmills will kill all the birds (that there are none left of)!
Not real ones, anyway
And they’ll put more of us on the planet too, because it’s so wonderful here.
Well im not having solar panels near my town. They’ll absorb all the sunlight and it’ll be dark!
Windmills slow the planet down!!!
But wouldn’t it be nice if there was more time in a day?
Solving? There’s an undeniable solution that has been there as long as the problem has
Which is…?
There’s a pretty public list of who owns the most resources
Stop burning fossil fuels.
That would help, but definitely not stop climate change.
Sure, taking your foot off the accelerator doesn’t technically stop the car.
Either you ration things that warm the planet, or you find a way to cool it directly? Neither of these options can be done at a large enough scale.
Humans have never been good at constraining cultures that gorge on a limited buffet of resources.
I’m in favor of completely remove the humans. We should have the tech already.
Sorry kid, I need my 9% returns on these investment funds, and I don’t care where that money comes from.
I don’t care where that money comes from.
Unless it’s renewable energy tech, then fuck it, those shitheads can rot in hell!
I bought this stock from a company called planter or something, it’s going crazy lately
This is so clever and I think most people are missing the joke.
I feel seen thanks homie
