Senator Jeanne Shaheen just threw the minority leader under the bus.

Senator Jeanne Shaheen revealed that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer knew the entire time about the plan for a few Democrats to capitulate to Republicans on the government shutdown.

Shaheen, one of the seven Democrats (and one independent) who dropped their demand for a guaranteed extension of Obamacare subsidies, spoke to Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade on Monday morning.

Aside from serving as further proof that the Democrats are failing to act as an opposition party in any meaningful way, Shaheen’s comments also reveal one of two possible scenarios. Either Schumer was scheming to end the shutdown behind the scenes, only pretending to be against it while pinning the blame on the eight people who aren’t up for reelection anytime soon, or he has no control over his party. Either way, it proves the need for Democrats to jettison the minority leader.

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        agreed it’s kind of a… we need to get schumer out of the way, because he’s a large part of preventing us from doing anything else to clean up the party. He’s not the sole problem no… but he is probably one of the biggest supporters of many of the other problems.

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    Schumer has zero control over his party when even the party whip pledges to defect. But he apparently refused to vote for the Democratic candidate for NYC mayor, so this is entirely expected and precedented.

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        Sadly I could so see that happening… and some crazy stupid arguement that bypasses the term limits because democrat trump is considered a new candidate.

        Though I’d also say the odds of him living to the end of this term with all his health issues, is under 25% at this point.

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      The Democratic Party is a big tent party. There isn’t often a plan, because the party membership has many different opinions on every subject.

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      The same as the Republican Party’s. Make money off campaign donations and lobbyists.

      Individual Democrats may care about winning and holding power, sure - some hold a genuine desire to serve the public good, others just want wealth and power for themselves.

      But the Party itself only cares about perpetuating the Party. And that doesn’t necessarily mean winning. In many cases, such as with abortion, it means losing political battles in such a way that it motivates more donations from their supporters.

      Or, to put it another way, the NFL doesn’t care what team wins the Super Bowl. It cares about selling ads.

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    I’m calling it now.

    Israel told this lot to cave so the US Gov would reopen because Israel is plotting something.

    Maybe they’re gearing up to attack Iran again.

    Maybe they’re prepping to fully annex Palestine.

    Idk why, but we know Israel has a firm grip on the GOP and most Dems. It wouldn’t surprise me if they need the US gov open and just functional enough to send them more bombs and arms to slaughter more innocent neighbors.

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    At best this is a massive gamble with the absolute last of the dregs of goodwill anyone left of center has for th democratic party. I’m predicting a lot of frustration -signalling throwing of hands in the air and performative filibusters in Shumer’s future, and not much else.

    New York Democrats: primary this piece of shit and get him out of the Senate. I don’t care if his gamble pays off, he shouldn’t be gambling with the future of our country against convicted fraudsters.

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      I wrote both of my Dem senators asking them, begging them, to hold elections on leadership. I’ve written Schumer’s office several times, begging him to step down and get the hell out of the way. I know it doesn’t do much (especially Schumer, as I’m not a constituent), if anything, but other than my vote, I have no leverage.

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    Shaheen, one of the seven Democrats (and one independent) who dropped their demand for a guaranteed extension of Obamacare subsidies, spoke to Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade on Monday morning.

    So she was bragging to Fox on her and her co-collaborators conservative bonafides.

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      Please let me be in me of your token Democrats when you complete your takeover. I’ll be good, and do whatever you want, if I can just stay in office.

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        The possibility of infiltrators is meaningless when the Democrats are themselves a pro-capitalist neoliberal party. Their fundamental class interests do not allow them to make reform that is beneficial to the working class. This is why whenever the Dems are in power they either outright refuse to do anything meaningful, or the reforms they do pass are so convoluted and means-tested-to-hell that they end up making things worse in some way.

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          this explains the perpetual right-wing movement of the government when it comes to social, ethnic and minority rights. “left-wing” parties do not reverse authoritarian changes in their terms of power, allowing the far right party to resume course when they toggle back into power.

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          You lost me when you called Dems neoliberal.

          There are like 3 neoliberal democrats.

          Democrats are mostly modern liberals.

          Republicans are classical liberals and neoliberals.

          Would it really hurt you to learn the definition of a few words? Reagan was the US neoliberal movement.

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              Sure if you are a Marxist Leninist.

              Clinton embraced some neoliberal policy. Obama was not a neoliberal and tells me you don’t understand what neoliberal means. Biden was the most progressive president we have ever had lol.

              But sure “neoliberal.”

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                Neoliberals believe in the de-regulation of capital, which has been the outcome of every president since Reagan, regardless of the words they use to win elections.

                And Biden was progressive? Lol you really have no idea what words mean.

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        Wrong way to look at it.

        Democrats and republicans share the same donors. They may individually have different goals in mind, but their donors appeal to both sides to preserve a guaranteed outcome and to preserve the image of choice and opposition.

        Really though what we have is anyone who wants to make a fast dime and has the gift of gab throwing themselves into the ring to try to get some of that sweet, sweet donor bribery.

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        Probably not Republicans. Just cunts that had a price tag higher than most. They are all being bought off for 10s of millions of dollars if not more. They all have an exit strategy. Make sure you are manning the doors the day they finally try to make their swift exit. They have been made promises that they and their families will be safe. Make them rue that decision.

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    I don’t trust Schumer and the Dems on any of this so if they want to build trust they need to speak out now and start by calling for Schumer to step down.

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      Why are any dems appearing on Fox “News”?

      To reach their target audience.

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      I mean, that’s not a bad thing to do assuming you are making the right cases. It’s more of the cases being made that’s the issue rather than where they are making them. If your case is good, you should want it to go to the people who are against you. Worse case it does nothing, best case it puts someone on the path to changing their mind.

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      I think it’s good that some do. I especially love Pete Buttigieg’s efforts on fox. For all those millions of chronic fox viewers, it’s the only way they’ll ever hear a rational perspective on any issues, and it might just be enough to get some of them to start thinking again.

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        Ehh, maybe Pete will take some notes from Mamdani and stay on a populus economic message and resist the culture war stuff.

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      That is, indeed, an excellent question.

      I suppose it’s the only way vast swaths of the country will believe they exist.

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    So Chuck Schumer knew this would Happy and Therefore PURPOSELY let People get Kicked off SNAP during the Holidays? GREAT! THAT"S my Type of Leader!

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      That’s the double whammy to me. It’s bad enough that we lost and got nothing for it, but we paid a huge price.

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      The problem is we’ve heard that before, multiple times, for all the negative stunts he pulled, and yet he still sits on his Democratic throne…

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    This is the game. This is how the game is played, everywhere, all over the world, at every level of government.

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    Of course he did.

    His whip was publicly swaying traitors ahead of the vote. And all the “yes” votes are people who aren’t up next year or who are actively retiring. That is how they do stuff like this. Protect the traitors who can get re-elected and make the people getting their lobbyist payouts the bogeymen.