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Let me guess… Thanks to this “bug” Microsoft / GitHub are charging their paying costumers for something that otherwise would be just idle time. 🤔
they’re always trying to screw you. feel free to call me delusional but i think like mark zuckerberg. i’m not as good with code as he is, but i’m autistic and i’m very low on the empathy scale.
mark zuckerberg is one of the world’s highest functioning autistic psychopaths.they all are. they all hate humans. they all want to accelerate the end of the world because they think everything is a simulation and when everyone dies they respawn in a better simulation
they talk about this shit all the time on the dark web
if you wanna see this shit for yourself you gotta use tor and check out BHC
it’s the darkweb so be
VERY
FUCKING
CAREFUL
you need a tricked out PC to deal with all the custom CSAM injections
if he’s actually autistic, he’s fucked up really. hard. anyway jus wanted to note that he’s certainly no good coder.
My favorite podcast is Behind the Bastards. Huge Robert Evans fan (I grew up with him) I’m also an anarchist, but I’m not his type. I’m a hacktivist.I work behind the scenes. Feel free to think this is aLARP, but if you want high quality transgender BDSM porn on whitehouse.gov, i’m your guy
anyhoo, zuck actually is a brilliant coder. he really is a fucking genius,. WAY smarer than anyone here, especially me. but he doesn’t care about any of you. hopefullythat isn’tnewsto anyone here
I wish Microsoft keeps up with its AI obsession and push as much as possible. At some point they’ll realize the reputation damage, but the longer it will take the better. Just stop the negative publicity
The publicity will have little impact; only the AI bubble popping will make them change course. But the damage is already done - they’ve pivoted their company to AI, forced it into all there products and force their employees to use it. Once the bubble pops that’s going to take time to undo and fix.
AI of course will still be a thing, but at the moment they’re wasting billions on it as everyone wants to be to AI as Google is to search.
Yeah but what does the corporate world do when Microsoft implodes and releases “Windows 12 agentic AI” the operating system, co developed between AI and athletic employees?
Alright fine, I can tolerate the little ✨AI ✨ sparkles in my M365 webpages a while longer if it means more kaboom at the end.
…take off every zig
Somebody set us up the bomb!
Make your time.
What you say??!!
We know what you doing
It’s ruining every product and service actually!
If you’re into emulation, it’s a legitimately good sidescrolling shmup, and if I remember right, the music was great as well.
It’s just that absymal translation that launched it into meme status.
I can hear the song so clearly by just watching this picture.
Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/286/
Damn, “.swf”
SWF vector animations are incredibly resilient, actually. I can still pull my saved SWF memes, and run them through Ruffle at modern resolution, or Swivel to get 60 fps 4K lossless MP4 versions, or bigger. Kind of cool.
And you can still uncompile them. I even discovered some credits and commentaries written in a hidden area of “Zero Wing Rhapsody” (speaking of Aybabtu) put here by the creator. Felt like geeky archeology.
For great justice
Take off every Zig!
What you say!
All your codebase belong to us!
Ugggh I’ve been wanting to migrate for months. RIP GitHub.
Go go gadget-o Codeberg !
Xbox. Lol. Microsoft has the Mierda touch.
I think of it as the Shidas Touch
Shitass touch
I feel like I’m in good company, I moved my stuff to my own forgejo instance about two month ago because finally I had some time to set one up. I wanted to do it for years because it was embarrysing to host open source code on a closed source platform ran by Microsoft. But my main kick in the but to really just do it was their CEO told his workers to embrace AI or get out: https://www.businessinsider.com/github-ceo-developers-embrace-ai-or-get-out-2025-8 I knew this is not the place to be anymore.
Move ZIG for great justice!
Greetings, fellow internet pioneer! Don’t forget to take us up the bomb!
*set up us
Heh. Oops.
Make your time
Love Codeberg. Just wish there would also be HackerHill, BytePeak and SoftwareSummit with federation!
I love that Codeberg exists, but there’s one thing I kinda dislike.
I’d like to use the same forge for my private projects (hey, a couple of them may make money one day! I gotta eat too) as I do for open source stuff, but Codeberg is explicitly open source only.
It’s a minor thing, really. Which I could get past by using another Forgejo instance, like Codefloe. But these smaller instances, how long will they be around?
I suppose just running my own git server, with or without a forge attached to it, for private projects, is the only real solution. But then I have even more things to self-host lol
I see this as a feature not bug, and tbh kinda resent those who hoard information and try to extract wealth from it. Extremely rude to the giants whose shoulders your work is built on. I’m the person who’s going to crack and redistribute your shit as soon as you publish it, nice to meet you :)
I’m the person who’s going to crack and redistribute your shit as soon as you publish it, nice to meet you :)
Out of curiosity, how do you crack and redistribute backend code as soon as a service is published?
Client-side code is usually Javascript for everything made in the last 10 years anyway, it doesn’t need a lot of cracking lol, it’s usually just minimized.
Anyway, say I’m building something that has taken me years of working in a specific industry to even be able to understand the requirements, that’s only useful for companies (NOT private individuals, though some companies may only have 1-2 employees, but many will have thousands). There’s literally no way it would benefit a private individual because for the 10% of it that overlaps with things private individuals also do, there’s already great open source solutions. What exactly is the problem with charging money for it, given that it’s ONLY going to be used by for-profit companies who are themselves charging money for their services?
Not really a project that would benefit normal people. You and I would have no use for it.
That was somewhat facetious and self-aggrandizing, “cracking” something isn’t always possible or necessary. If your service was unique/useful enough, I would contribute to reverse engineering enough of that backend to replicate its functionality. More likely I’d just refuse to use it and support open alternatives
Unsolicited advice though, giving stuff away generates a huge amount of goodwill that can be way more useful and rewarding than revenue. Contributors instead of employees, love instead of money, place and purpose instead of points in your bank account. I’m not wealthy by any means, but I’m comfortable enough and haven’t had to buy a laptop since high school
Sure. But thing is, there’s software out there for which FOSS doesn’t even make much sense.
I’m talking things that are so niche, the total amount of potential users (not customers - that’s a much smaller number) is in the hundreds of thousands, not even millions - most of whom have no say in what software they use, nor does it affect their pay checks.
If I was building, say, accounting software that every company can use, that’d be different, because while still business focused, there’d be a lot more grass roots interest in it. But I’m talking about software where you have to sell it to a bunch of execs, along with support contracts and uptime guarantees, because their entire business is dependent on it functioning properly. I’m also talking about software for one niche of one industry in one country.
The project isn’t useful enough to you, an engineer, to reverse engineer the backend. Nor are there any open alternatives that work. It requires keeping up with regulations, including some that change every year. It’s not that the software itself is super complex magic, it’s that it stops being useful if not well-maintained.
What I have considered, though, is making parts of it open source, and keeping only the “secret sauce” proprietary. The open source parts would be stuff that could be used to build similar software for other niches of the same target industry, whereas the super specific niche stuff and all the regulation compliance stuff (much of which is just for that one niche anyway - other niches have different regulations) would be proprietary. Essentially building a set of FOSS libraries, and a niche proprietary application that uses them to service a specific market. Again, good reason for using a forge where you can have both public and private projects - but of course I could just use CodeBerg for the open source and host the rest of it privately.
I’m only building this in my spare time and fairly slowly because I have to do work that gets me paid though. I don’t know if I’ll ever have an MVP I could show investors or clients.
What I have considered, though, is making parts of it open source, and keeping only the “secret sauce” proprietary. The open source parts would be stuff that could be used to build similar software for other niches of the same target industry, whereas the super specific niche stuff and all the regulation compliance stuff (much of which is just for that one niche anyway - other niches have different regulations) would be proprietary.
This seems perfectly reasonable and I wish you the best of luck. Just don’t expect anyone to provide the infrastructure for your proprietary secret sauce for free!
Well, github would provide it for free. Their business model is that just hosting shit is free, but costing them actual server resources means you gotta pay 'em. And that’s a sensible business model IMO, but unfortunately they’re also owned by Microsoft, which I didn’t even like 2 decades ago, let alone now that they’re pushing AI.
Guess what I’m hoping is for Github alternatives, potentially based on Forgejo, to adopt a similar business model (free storage, paid runners beyond a very limited free tier essentially), without the whole using everyone’s code for AI training part.
I also have no problem with a small recurring donation. But the ironic part here is that I wouldn’t want to use a forge that’s so small that it NEEDS the donations. I don’t want it to disappear after a year.
You:
That was somewhat facetious and self-aggrandizing
Also you:
I’m the person who’s going to crack and redistribute your shit as soon as you publish it, nice to meet you :)
My brother in christ that’s the exact line I was referring to, what else in the wide world of reading comprehension do you think I was talking about?
Sounded to me like you were firing off at someone for having a private personal project by claiming that you would personally intervene to prevent them making any money from their code, then later you told them that they were being self aggrandizing. That’s how it comes across.
You doubled down on your threat with detail, which doesn’t give readers the context to be able to deduce that you meant to be in the slightest bit self aware or apologetic, so without re-quoting yourself, it came across as hypocritical.
Maybe “sorry, that was somewhat facetious and self-aggrandizing of me” and then not doubling down might have come across better. That’s what I think, anyway.
Im eyeing Zig for a long time also as the core developers behind it seem to be really cool and drama free. Which, i know, is no argument for an programming language but cool non the less. Just hope the language itself is also cool to work with.
I feel that
I am a wanna-be coding data analyst who has decided to start directly in Codeberg, more because of anti-US than anti-AI sentiment.
I have 2 questions for everyone more experienced than me and in general more knowledgeable of the market dynamics:
- How far is Forgejo/Codeberg from feature parity with Github?
- I don’t see any public SaaS/tools connecting to Codeberg as they are with Github. Is this by design or is it due to lack of reception? And, in your opinion, what would be a kind of service/connector that would really change things if made available for Codeberg?
I highly doubt there will ever be parity. There will also be some differences where there can be improvements made over GitHub. Right now you only hear about individuals moving over or open source software. This is mainly because they don’t need the enterprise features that GitHub has. I am not sure if you self hosted forgejo if you would get those as well. It’s meant to be free. This is the biggest thing that would be missing. For individuals, I don’t think you’ll notice many differences.
For your second question. It doesn’t matter. What matters is git. There are 2 main ways to access this. SSH and http. All you really need is git. There are other tools out there like gitlab. Gitlab is pretty decent too, but the workflow is a bit different. You can even self host with gitlab too. You may not see many direct integrations to gitlab either, but people have been working with it for years now. There is also bitbucket. I think forgejo has a better chance at succeeding though if it continues to do what it’s doing. Just tailor to the free and open source community. Really the only thing people need to do is create an account and set up some ssh keys. Beyond creating an account, there is no difference in how you clone a repo from GitHub and codeberg. Just copy the URL and do git clone.
TL;DR GitHub and codeberg have different missions. It will be a similar experience and features for individuals or open source projects are close to the same on both platforms. You probably won’t notice much of a difference.
Right now you only hear about individuals moving over or open source software.
Codeberg limits the type of license that can be hosted to open source licenses so open source is really the only option at the moment.
forgejo
How is this generally pronounced? I feel like “for-GAY-hoe” would be the only workable pronunciation.
Their FAQ actually has an audio clip, haha https://forgejo.org/static/forgejo.mp4
Forge-ayo
Think hispanic
I’ve been enjoying zig.
It feels like when I go to write C, but without a bunch of code churn/copy paste on getting just the right memory management interface.
It’s not perfect, and the API churn makes it really annoying to find decent documentation. But it’s fun.
You might like Odin. It’s stable and in industry use.
I think the next language I’ll learn will be rust, but Odin has been recommended to me a couple times now.
I do want to try that one out
Same boat, but be warned that Zig and Odin are C-like, while Rust is C++ like. The different workflow needs some getting used to.
Thanks.
I always avoided c++ for its complexity and bad error messages.
If rust is better at that then I’ll give it an honest shot.
it’s famously better at that
