Summary

The White House is drafting an executive order to dismantle the Department of Education, aligning with Trump’s long-standing pledge.

However, Congress must approve the agency’s abolition, making its passage unlikely despite GOP control. Critics, including the National Education Association, warn this move would harm students, increase costs, and weaken protections.

GOP lawmakers have repeatedly attempted to eliminate the department since its 1979 founding.

Trump also recently signed an order expanding school choice, reinforcing the Republican agenda of decentralizing education policy.

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      2 years ago

      What possible reason could they have for voting so directly against their own interests?

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        My honest guess? A misinformation campaign and a complete misunderstanding of Cheetolini’s platform which had quite a few fill in the blanks type “policies”, that made people imagine whatever they wanted into his campaign promises.

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      2 years ago

      For this reason, if you have anything with at least 32 GB of RAM and a GPU, you should get a copy of Ollama and test it out running a local copy of Deepseek. That’s going to soon become the best 0 new dollars tool for access to education.

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      2 years ago

      DoE gets in the way of funneling the money to the churches corporations.

      Let’s not kid ourselves, the churches will get some money for taking the poor kids, but the goal is to privatize education so that corporations can profit from schooling even more than they already have.

  • YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub
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    Congress is required for all sorts of shit that Elon is doing but that isn’t stopping Elon.

    Laws are not some sort of natural force. They are implemented by people and all of those people are either fascists or cowards.

    Trumps immunity plus his pardon power make him king. All of his minions can do all the illegal things they want. Trump can then pardon them and he isn’t liable for their crimes if he is doing something roughly in line with his duties are President. John Roberts fucked us all.

    The only way this is going to be solved is by people power. Organize. Fight these fascists.

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      This is exactly why musk is not appointed, he can’t be impeached and as you said DOJ and pardons will protect him.

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      Normally the state would have a lot less power over judges. In the US the state has power over judges AND there is a jury system.

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      Correct. If you want to see how fascism ends, look at pictures of Mussolini’s corpse hanging in public. That’s the only way it ends. The sooner the better

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        0 cosponsors and probably hasn’t even been looked at by the education committed it was submitted to.

        We’re wasting time talking about theoretical nonlaws when theres actual real shit happening.

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          For real. Plus it’s Dem-sponsored, so until it gets an R cosponsor it’s likely not even going to make it to the floor.

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        The thing to do to stop this was vote blue no matter who in the 2016 and 2024 elections. Failing that, you’ll have to convince 13 Republicans to impeach and remove Donald Trump.

        But guess what? That won’t happen. No matter what, we’re going to see people suffer and violence in the streets. Whether you’re keeping yourself safe at home or contributing to the violence is up to you.

      • YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub
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        Here is a single thing that anyone should be doing, there are other resources elsewhere. But everyone should be working with their unions or forming unions at their places of work. It is surprisingly easy to do, and even MAGA people can recognize they are being fucked by capital. Unionizing the workplace is where our power lies. It is the thing that fascists have always feared. Use those unions to gain concessions from the bosses. Get higher wages, safer work environments, set schedules, etc.

        Ok, here is a second idea. Feed your neighbors. Go help feed the homeless folk in your community.

        Showing compassion for everyone is a radical act. Build solidarity.

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      They already blocked organization by controlling the mass media and major social platforms are in cahoots.

      Facebook, Twitter/X and tiktok all pushed trump and hid Kamala during the campaign. Not to mention the influencers that got paid to push Trump.

      Any type of hashtag or trend that tries to fight back is just going to get pushed down in “the algorithm” or straight up blocked (search kamala on twitter)

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        That’s why word-of-mouth about the Fediverse is so powerful - and why it’ll become increasingly important to return to the old methods of organizing - in person, posters put up at night, meetings in basements and in homes, discussions in back alleys and storage closets. Zines and fliers.

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          I think WhatsApp groups might work to spread the word as well. It’s mainstream enough and can’t be banned like other platforms.

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          Huh… I’m tired of feeling helpless, and have been wondering what I can do. I’m so frustrated with the constant bombardment of awful news, and the fact that seemingly nobody I interact with in the real world has any fucking idea that it’s happening.

          Maybe I’ll be that crazy guy that makes his own newsletter and hands it out at work.

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            Maybe I’ll be that crazy guy that makes his own newsletter and hands it out at work.

            “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”

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        nobody is forced to use these platforms and we were able to deal with worse restrictions.

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    Knowledge is power, and the GOP can’t have educated people around…gotta keep that shit in check and keep our kids stupid so they can’t ask questions, you know?

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    Let em keep chopping off the federal government … at one point, individual states will start wondering why they are all interconnected in a union that doesn’t do anything or provide any benefits any more and start acting like independent nations.

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    It might be worth mentioning that Andrew Johnson signed the Department of Education into law in 1867. It was elevated to a cabinet position in 1979 by Carter from it’s previous position within the Department of Health, Education, And Welfare.

    The idea that the government has a constitutional interest in fostering the education of the public is NOT a new thing contrary to what conservatives would have you believe. An educated populace is an essential function of a representative democracy.

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        But I can’t figure out why. A society with severe brain drain would lead to reduced quality of life for them as well. Are they just banking on AI to do everything while everyone dies in rebellions and counter-rebellions? Shit, that’s probably it.

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          Yeah, I also don’t understand why they’re aiming for this kind of society. Eventually they’ll cut so much that the actual pie will shrink, so they’ll end up getting less while being surrounded by slums.

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          Neura-starlink, first on prisoners, then on everyone else and apparently the op paperclip people in conjunction with USA make the thousand year reign a reality.

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          Fascists aren’t particularly smart. They tend to lose in the long run because they just cannot comprehend anything complex. All their philosophy is wishful thinking and simple heuristics that follow their preconceived notions about the superiority of their in group.

          They want feudalism because they can’t stand anyone having power other than the people who deserve to rule. They can’t stand that non elites can vote, demand decent wages, etc. so they want feudalism without understanding the downstream effects of that.

          They are just fucking dumb. And that is why, if we get enough time, we will win against them. Climate change might get us. But we will fucking destroy these no knowing fuck wits.

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          If everything is going to shit, getting a slightly less shit deal even if it means everyone else gets a whole lot more shit is a deal people will take just about 10/10 times across an electorate.

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          They measure their quality of life by their ability to dominate others. On top of the desire for feudalism for many of them is a desire for theocracy. For them politics peaked at the divine right of kings.

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          Think of the rich as aliens. Extract all the wealth from available resources and then move on to the next country. More likely than not, they will die before any of their damage matters enough to bother them. This is why they want to drill.

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    I’m so sorry, Americans. I’m not sure who is even able to liberate your country. You and the Russians liberated the camps in Europe at the end of WW2, but who’s there for you? I think you might need to liberate yourself. Again. I’m sorry. Good luck

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        Look at us in Russia. Years go by, and we still are not revolting. I’m afraid, it will not be months for you.

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      Read Brave New World and Fahrenheit 451 for some insight.

      Also, that whole treatise on language that Orwell stuck in the middle of 1984…

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      I’d love to be at the protests tomorrow. Why it’s on a weekday I’m not sure, but my capitol is hours away, and I work. I just started a new job and barely make enough to make ends meet until I get my first commission checks. I wasn’t working for months prior.

      I literally can’t afford to go protest.

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      Bread and circuses. No one wants to revolt.

      “The super bowl is on and I just heated up some nacho cheese dip.”

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      Yeah, you would think that would get rid of the loans, but realistically they’ll just sell the loans to some bank, and then a political solution to debt forgiveness becomes completely impossible.

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      I’m sure the “servicers” will continue to collect. Republicans went out of their way to file a suit on behalf of one of them that triggered relief getting blocked.

      Don’t worry, they will make sure to close all of the loopholes that might actually benefit the working class.

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        As someone who’s got ~1 year left of payments on his Public Service Loan Forgiveness, I’m just waiting for the news that it’s been cancelled and my loans will not be forgiven.

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        Yep, student loan repayment is the one point on which politicians will grow a spine and object. God forbid they unite on anything else.

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      Just heads up, DOE is Department of Energy. Official abbreviation for Department of Educations is ED, an informal one is DoEd.

      Also the student loans would be transfered to Department of Treasury, which they will likely try to do even if ED is not shut down.

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      They also manage the school vouchers. It’s literally getting in the way of their own goals. Something I mentioned months ago.

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    I had no idea the DOE federal Education Department was that recently created. Having grown up in a deep red state I feel like a veil was suddenly lifted from me, and now I can see how even more fucked up my older relatives’ education must have been compared to mine (already pretty fucked up!).