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Hood heights. You have pickup trucks that have to have a front camera now.
And mechanics now use stepladders.
FFS guys just buy a strap on dildo, she’ll never know the difference.
Those are pretty staggering numbers considering the population has only grown by maybe 12% in that same timeframe.
feels like the tone of this title is forgetting about the shareholders, which I do not take kindly to
What does it say under Jesus? Christians for what?
The article doesn’t talk about the fact that the increase is far greater in dark conditions, which is not readily explained by the changes to car design the article discusses.
This article talks more about that, and the linked report suggests population trends have contributed to more people walking at night along arterial roads with poor pedestrian infrastructure.
To be clear, daytime fatalities are up by about 40% in the interval shown, which is much more than the increase in population. Increasing vehicle size and hood height are real problems too, but don’t seem to be the biggest factor.
Daytime fatalities are up 26.5% on this graph. Not good, but not 40%. Population growth was 8.5% over that period
Vehicle numbers are also an important metric to look at, as they grew about 16-17% during the same timeframe. Add the two together and you’re not far from 26.5%.
I don’t think you can just add those together since an added person will mostly also be an added car. In fact, since cars grew faster than people, perhaps there are fewer pedestrians now. We can’t really say.
There are sidewalks on both sides of the street in my neighborhood. People are walking 2 abreast in the street at night and joggers are commonly running about 4 feet into the street from the curb.
Regardless of the article’s findings, some people are just oblivious.
What is the condition of your sidewalks? My sidewalks are uneven and a neighborhood grandma who I walk with still prefers the street even though my street is not well lit. Uneven sidewalks are a tripping hazard that can be avoided by walking in the street. Her vision isn’t great so a paved stretch of road is just easier to walk with a flashlight.
Morons existed long before 2009. They are not a new phenomenon that accounts for a 40% increase in casualties. So your point, astute though it may be, is tangential to the article.
A truck drove by me the other day that was so high up and had such a big body there is no way the driver could see anything 10 feet around the truck in all directions.
I wonder how much of that increase is from LED headlights, LED street lights, reduction in road safety education campaigns, phone use in cars, glaring LED lit dashboards and other in-car distractions. … Rather than just “cars bad”.
A big part is due to the higher trucks making it not only harder to see in front if someone is crossing near you but also if you hit something it is more likely to go under the truck. The bar to get a license in the US is also ridiculously low compared to Europe.
I’m not sure how you got to “cars bad” when it explicitly talks about an increase from 2009, and that it’s the largest increase of vehicle fatalities.
Modern cars have significantly larger blind spots than cars from 2009, which is part of what they’re suggesting is the cause.
I’ve also seen other reports pointing out that the taller hood height is more likely to kill a pedestrian, rather than just injure them, in the case of a collision
my c posts in my 2020 car are so big that i frequently have no idea there’s a pedestrian right in front of me about to enter a crossing. it stresses me out
Gee, there was no way they would have been able to change this…
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Interesting to me is some new cars will auto brake before crashing, so I guess the issue is “fixed”.
That would be included in the data. The auto braking is also worse when it comes to to pedestrians than other cars if I’m remembering a report from a little while that came out correctly.
Options for reasonable sized cars is the US have decreased. Mega trucks ans SUVs are what sells, I guess.
Part of this increase may also be because there are a lot of people out there driving like there are no consequences to their actions. Is it just because I am older, or are there more aggressive speeder out there?
There’s just more fucking people in general so the odds of encountering the worst of them goes up
We’re still working on the loss of caring about driving from pandemic. For some reason it brought out the worst in people, and some of them are still there
Mega trucks ans SUVs are what sells, I guess.
Unfortunately, people buy what they are told to buy through advertising and marketing. The demand for sports cars didn’t dry up because people lost interest, but because better margins were found in large vehicles (and since emissions requirements were easier to hit for large vehicles than small powerful ones).
If the auto industry decided small cars were more profitable, the entire marketing machine would start touting the benefits of small cars, and in a few years, people would be claiming they always loved small cars and are so glad they are back so they can replace their monster trucks with tiny hatches.
Options for reasonable sized cars is the US have decreased
I think that’s only true if you’re buying an american vehicle, which you shouldn’t be doing anyways unless you like shit that breaks.
I want to know how many are related to drivers blinded by LED headlights. I’ve seen (and been a part of) dozens of near hits in the past few years because of this.
Bigger vehicles with high hoods too.
It is insane how bright they are now and due to LEDs appear as point sources. Even if they are adjusted correctly for flat roads as soon as you get to any ripples in the road now they are aimed right into your eyes. For some reason insurers and the gov don’t recognize this problem.
If you have powered mirrors, reflect the light back into their eyes…works great
doesn’t work well in my experience. now I typically just leave my mirrors all the way out and up when driving at night, so the headlights never hit my eyes from them
I can see everything I need to from the rearview and turning my head. it’s not like you can see anything using the side mirrors at night when somebody with LED headlights is behind you anyways, all you see is a giant flare and you can’t even tell if it’s in your lane or the next lane or how close it is
LED headlights are literally making the roads less safe by decreasing visibility and awareness
Whoever invented LED bulbs for cars needs to be blacklisted from the auto industry
Those are aftermarket lights, or people with lifted pickups. Lights are designed to work at a set distance off the road, when people lift the truck, everything is now hi beams.
The problem is not the industry, it’s a lack of safety laws and enforcement. North America does not safety inspect vehicles.
lol it’s not just aftermarket or modified stuff dude, look at any new stock Subaru/Toyota/Mazda. blinding
the regulations on intensity never presumed we’d use such small arrays to produce that intesity. in the cabin, the lights projected onto the road don’t seem that different from 20 years ago. but from the other way it’s dazzling
The law is a max of 2400/3600 lumens.
Aftermarket LEDs are all illegal, but police do not enforce. Again, no safety inspections.
There are plenty of cars with stock LED headlights and proper cutoffs, so they’re less blinding than traditional headlights
It’s aftermarket “illegal” LEDs, LEDs that are misaligned or started at a bad height, and way too many drivers who never turn off their high beams. Yet another safety rule we only pay lip service to, resulting in unnecessary deaths
I swear some people really must not know you can toggle between normal headlights and high beams.
I thought the same and then got a recent-ish car that had an “automatic” setting to dim or engage the high beams. It’s terrible. Taking tight corners on a dark rural road, they dim because the sensor detects the car’s own headlight reflection off of the trees, defeating the purpose.
So, I think a bunch of dipshit city folk leave the high beams on (in the city where they aren’t fucking necessary) and let the “automatic” setting handle it, poorly.
I learned how to drive in a rural area where using the brights is normal when you get out of town, with the caveat that you have to pay attention and switch back when cresting a hill or coming around a corner.
Edit: “creating” -> “cresting”
Some people also don’t know you can set your headlights to “auto” so you aren’t driving at twilight with your headlights off.
This may be another case of needing technology to rescue people who are just that dumb.
- Auto-high beams have been getting better over the years to the point that humans can no longer claim to be more responsive. They just work. Every time. And never forget
- my car has active matrix headlights and it’s freaky to drive at night with the high beams on and watch a dark spot follow surrounding cars
In ten years we’ll all forget how to toggle off high beams, as it will just work most of the time. But at the same time we’ll be blinded less as the machine never forgets
auto high beams do not work every time.
I am routinely blinded by them when people drive through my neighborhood at night and I’m walking my dog, or when I’m biking to the store. and this is in a neighborhood with street lights where high beams are completely and utterly not required in the first place at 40 km/h.
Every attempt to make something idiot creates a bigger idiot
While I totally see the point this is already “solved” in that they shouldn’t have high beams on in the first place.
Pedestrians and cyclists are tough because drivers don’t think to toggle their high beams, even If they see pedestrians and auto-high beams aren’t any better. We’re out of luck
In my neighborhood we have very narrow streets and where there are sidewalks not pavement right next to the street. I never thought I’d appreciate the small amount of separation a standard sidewalk give but it actually does make a difference in how blinded your u are by traffic. But the bottom Line is similar to yours: this is a high density neighborhood with streetlights where no one should use high beams to begin with. Realistically there are several Poorly placed houses whose owners are probably even more frustrated
Yah, I drove a rental with these for the first time and didn’t like it. It left the high beams on far longer than I would’ve manually and when I tried to manually switch them off it would turn them back on without me knowing.
I just bought a 2012 as my ‘new’ vehicle because I don’t want to deal with any stupid tech issues like that
hell, I don’t even like standard traction control - if I press the accelerator, I want the wheels to get power. I’ve been stuck slowly crossing in the middle of an intersection too many times because ESC ‘helped out’ and cut power to the wheels. no mf just spin them until they get to the hard surface below the snowslush
doesn’t matter when lowbeams are just as bright as high beams and aimed at somebody’s face, though
incorrect. cutoff just means it isn’t blinding on flat level ground. which roads and streets are very much not
I’ll take being briefly blinded as a car hits a pothole over ten terrifying seconds of zero visibility as a monstrous vehicle careens toward me and I have no idea where the street is or what’s in it
see the thing is we don’t need to put up with either of those situations, neither is acceptable
I think this is the biggest issue here…
Partly the ridiculous sized vehicles. Partly the fact that nearly every single person driving is watching Netflix, while browsing TikTok, while eating a big Mac and running late cause they have no time management skills. And they are driving 20-30 mph over the speed limit, full of road rage, with no concern for anyone or anything. The only person on the road that matters is them.
Reminds me of Fahrenheit 451 and how the youth drive dangerously because they haven nothing to live for.
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You mean, I wouldn’t care about them if I saw them up close, too?
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Well, I mean, I can’t make sense of what you wrote
American here living in a car-only area.
I didn’t even raise an eyebrow at that previous comment. Sure most drivers are fine, but there are plenty of people who make me wonder what the hell combination of these issues (and others) is going on with them.
The most common example I get to see is the people speeding through the elementary school parking lot in their luxury SUVs. I especially love it when they start a phone call as they start driving, after they just finished standing around, collecting their kid, and walking back to the parking lot.
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Let me introduce you to a figure of speech called hyperbole.
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That’s exactly what hyperbole is.
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Not to mention poorly aimed LED lights rivaling the lumen output of the fucking sun.
That just comes standard on pretty much every SUV now. Half the electric vehicles here have a fuckin light bar across the front. It’s insane how much worse visibility is at night outside of towns. Add in more aging drivers and everyone else not even looking at the road and it’s not surprising.
I’ll stick with my boring, boomer sedans. I genuinely don’t enjoy driving SUVs and light trucks–primarily due to the blind spot issue and high hoods that the article describes.
I’m driving my little Subaru into the ground before I buy a big ass overpriced piece of shit crossover or pickup truck with pillars thicker than my thighs. I like being able to actually see out of my car.
Great stuff. Big car go splat.
Can’t see the data, cant see the icon of who is posting the data. Something is fucky here.
