A 13-year-old girl at a Louisiana middle school got into a fight with classmates who were sharing AI-generated nude images of her
The girls begged for help, first from a school guidance counselor and then from a sheriff’s deputy assigned to their school. But the images were shared on Snapchat, an app that deletes messages seconds after they’re viewed, and the adults couldn’t find them. The principal had doubts they even existed.
Among the kids, the pictures were still spreading. When the 13-year-old girl stepped onto the Lafourche Parish school bus at the end of the day, a classmate was showing one of them to a friend.
“That’s when I got angry,” the eighth grader recalled at her discipline hearing.
Fed up, she attacked a boy on the bus, inviting others to join her. She was kicked out of Sixth Ward Middle School for more than 10 weeks and sent to an alternative school. She said the boy whom she and her friends suspected of creating the images wasn’t sent to that alternative school with her. The 13-year-old girl’s attorneys allege he avoided school discipline altogether.
That’s how this school shit goes, zero tolerance really means zero critical thought. You were involved in a fight? That’s school violence!
I always tell my personal story when this comes up. In high school I was beefing with my friend over some stupid shit. One day he put me in a headlock and started to fight me. With a free hand I reached up (very big guy btw, I was very small) and grabbed his glasses off his face and squeaked out to let go of me or I’d jam it into his eye. He spun me around and tried to knee me in the nuts (luckily missed) and then yelled at me. We both got suspended for fighting when all I did was get beat up by the guy.
So AI images of underaged nude girls being reported to police does not warrant any form of investigation?
The article states that the police investigated but found nothing. The kids knew how to hide/erase the evidence.
Are we really surprised, though? Police are about as effective at digital sleuthing as they are at de-escalation.
When the sheriff’s department looked into the case, they took the opposite actions. They charged two of the boys who’d been accused of sharing explicit images — and not the girl.
The article later states that they continued investigating, and found ten people (eight girls and two adults) who were targeted with multiple images. They charged two boys with creating and distributing the images.
It’s easy to jump on the ACAB bandwagon, but real in-depth investigation takes time. Time for things like court subpoenas and warrants, to compel companies like Snapchat to turn over message and image histories (which they do save, contrary to popular belief). The school stopped investigating once they discovered the kids were using Snapchat (which automatically hides message history) but police continued investigating and got ahold of the offending messages and images.
That being said, only charging the two kids isn’t really enough. They should charge every kid who received the images and forwarded them. Receiving the images by itself shouldn’t be punished, because you can’t control what other people spontaneously send you… But if they forwarded the images to others, they distributed child porn.
At the end of the day, these are children, there is no punishment meaningful that ends with just these boys punished. Justice would be finding the source of who created these images. I’m honestly highly doubtful it was these kids alone. This really should bring into suspect any adult in the life of these boys. An investigation that stops at punishing children for child sexual abuse material is not at all a thorough investigation.
It’s possible these boys were able to generate these images on their own (meaning not with help from anyone in their real life interactions). But, even if that was the case, the investigation should not stop there.
they distributed child porn
Behold
your child pornography/child sexual abuse material. These stick figures are definitely underage in someone’s imagination.What is the penalty?
This isn’t any different than busting someone for selling fake drugs, which is an actual crime. Even if the bodies are AI generated, they’re still attaching the faces of real girls to them and then distributing them amongst their peer group. The fact that you want to make your stand on this specific situation says a lot about you.
This isn’t any different than busting someone for selling fake drugs, which is an actual crime.
Seems like vacuous bullshit. At least there, a fraud is technically committed.
they’re still attaching the faces of real girls
A real face is there in someone’s imagination. And it’s distributed to you. Are you going to excuse lesser skill?
So, again, what’s the penalty?
says a lot about you
The stand against sensational irrationality is always a good cause.
Seems like vacuous bullshit. At least there, a fraud it technically committed.
How so? Is there not fraud committed in this case as well?
You can imagine a real face here, too. And it’s distributed to you. Are you going to excuse lesser skill?
We’re not talking about someone’s imagination or stick figures, but an actual digital image depicting a nude human body with the faces of real children. What skill are you referring to and how is this “skill level” relevant to the argument?
The stand against vapid irrationality is always a good cause.
Is that what you’re doing? Your comments are devoid of reasoning, logic, or nuance and just relies on a cartoon picture to do all the talking all while you claim everyone who disagrees with you is “showing a lack of thought or intelligence” and being irrational. You’ve done the equivalent of walking into a crowded room, farting, and walking away thinking “heh, heh, I showed those morons.”
Is there not fraud committed in this case as well?
Was there a transaction?
but an actual digital image depicting a nude human body with the faces of real children
That is “an actual digital image depicting a nude human body with the faces of real children”. Both digital images, both depictions of nude human bodies with faces, both faces of real children as far as some viewer is concerned. Where’s your objective legal standard?
You’re just going to let people commit your purported crime with impunity due to weaker skill in synthesizing the images they’re sharing? Seems unjust.
Your comments are devoid of reasoning, logic, or nuance
That’s you. You lack an argument to draw a valid legal distinction & are just riding sensationalism. You were given a counterexample & have yet to adequately address it. It’s bankrupt.
There’s absolutely a legal distinction between a drawing or other depiction versus a deepfake based on a person’s likeness.
I don’t get it. Are you saying the victim’s age is imaginary? Or are you lashing out because you live in fear that you’ll go prison if anyone ever opens your phone?
No it doesn’t say that.
Oh, shit! Did they shoot the computer?
I think that one’s okay. It’s not black.
The article states that the police investigated but found nothing.
You should have kept reading.
"Ultimately, the weeks-long investigation at the school in Thibodaux, about 45 miles (72 kilometers) southwest of New Orleans, uncovered AI-generated nude images of eight female middle school students and two adults, the district and sheriff’s office said in a joint statement.”
Unless they can pull out their gun and shoot at something or someone … or tackle someone … they aren’t very good at doing anything else.
Literally verbatim what an officer said when we couldn’t get a hold of animal control and he got sent over instead…
Correct. They will not investigate it further than threatening the victims with persecution. The goal is that the victim doesn’t pursue it further.
They don’t know how to properly investigate it, and they are not interested in knowing. The see it as both ‘kids being kids’ and ‘if this gets out it will give our town a bad name’.
I’m glad the kid and her family aren’t letting this go!
They will not investigate it further than threatening the victims with persecution.
Read.The.Whole.Article.
Yes, after the kid had to take matters into her own hands.
She asked for help. The officer said no. She didn’t let it go/escalated the issue as the sexual harassment progressed. Only when forced did they investigate
She asked for help. The officer said no.
No they didn’t and if they did that information is not in this article. She went to the Guidance Councilor at 7AM then to the onsite Sheriff’s Deputy after. She texted her father and sister about 2PM. The SD couldn’t immediately find anything but it appears that they didn’t stop looking because 3 weeks later they were charging the boys.
So unless you have another source with a different timeline or more information your originally comment was inaccurate. Sort of like the ragebait headline and the ragebait summary.
You’re simping hard for the police in here. There is no proof that any of the charges would have occurred had people not become outrage. The school definitely need this pressure.
You have a lot of cops in your family because I can’t think of a reason anyone would be such a massive cheerleader for professional thugs without some personaon relationship.
Your question was answered in the article but you clearly stopped at either the outrage bait headline or the outrage bait summary.
“Ultimately, the weeks-long investigation at the school in Thibodaux, about 45 miles (72 kilometers) southwest of New Orleans, uncovered AI-generated nude images of eight female middle school students and two adults, the district and sheriff’s office said in a joint statement.”
That was the investigation by the police not the school.
What we’re asking is why the school didn’t investigate given that the police had already been contacted.
I mean, the police are the proper individuals to be investigating csam. The school bringing them in immediately would have been the correct action. School officials aren’t trained to investigate crime.
Perhaps the cops are the proper investigative arm, but the school system had an obligation to assist in that investigation, and not ignore it, then deny it, then cover it up.
The entire leadership of the school should be fired, and the principal should be prosecuted.
Agreed
Because a school can’t compell Snapchat to release “disappeared” images and chat logs. So perhaps in this case it was best left to the police.
It wasn’t left to the police she’d already gone to the police. It sounds from the story like the school did literally nothing at all.
Also you don’t need to compel Snapchat to release the images they’re 13-year-old boys they absolutely have permanent copies on their phones.
How can the school compel the boys to show the permanent copies then? I think you are overestimating the power of the school in this scenario.
Saying there is nothing they can do is the standard cop-out for lazy administrators.
They are minors in school, under the legal supervision of the school. There are LOTS of things a school can do, and courts have been finding mostly on the side of schools for decades.
Without even trying, I can think of a dozen things the school could have done, including banning phones from the suspects until the investigation is over.
But they chose to do nothing, them punish the victim when she defended herself, after the school refused.
Banning phones during the investigation does not give the administration evidence to work with. Even if they took the phones, the school still couldn’t force the students to unlock them. The only way to get the evidence needed was through the police.
What? RTFA. 2 boys were charged by the Sheriff’s department. They didn’t face any punishment from the school, but law enforcement definitely investigated.
No! Are you trying to get the perpetrator hired into Trump’s cabinet?!
And AI generation vendors get a free pass for generating child porn
They absolutely should not.
That would affect the economy, and profits, which as we know are much more important than morals, so unfortunately, we must allow it.
The Trump Administration is trying to make preventing this illegal.
Easy answer, we make unflattering AI porn of Ivanka. Make it impossible for her dad to enjoy.
I fear you’re underestimating his depravity.
He’ll insist on being added to the text chain.
Must be a majority republican police department.
It’s Louisiana, what do you think?
I think you may have read the wrong article.
When the sheriff’s department looked into the case, they took the opposite actions. They charged two of the boys who’d been accused of sharing explicit images — and not the girl.
Snapchat, an app that deletes messages seconds after they’re viewed
Says smooth brain idiots who don’t recall the Snappening.
You can call them idiots but it is you who misremembers. Snapchat’s role in the snappening was a failure to crack down on 3rd party clients.
Snapchat didn’t store the photos (that we know of), a 3rd party app’s server did
I can’t misremember if I never read the original story about what happened, lol. But you are technically correct, it looks like it was from a third party saving the data.
The actual shortsightedness is thinking that data transmitted from any device is temporary. Snapchat would have logs at the very least. Probably chat messages, if not just everything.
I’d mainly consider the smooth-brained part the assumption that tech companies willingly delete any data they have access to
Side note but doesn’t this basically mean Snap has CSAM on their servers?
I wouldn’t be surprised. No one with the power or authority to do something about it gives a shit, though.
Louisiana has effectively fully privatized its public school system through the charter school model. Everything’s been stripped down and sold off. As a result, parents and students are reduced to the status of at-will clients of a given campus and can be kicked out for any reason or no reason at all.
Add to that, the Louisiana system is also at the forefront of the School to Prison Pipeline, a bureaucratic model that seeks to segregate the population by class cohort and heavily criminalize the behavior of the lower income traunchs in order to maximize its prison population.
Louisiana also happens to have the second largest incarceration rate in the nation. Louisiana prisons also happen to have been heavily privatized, with many of the profits going directly into the pockets of the public leaders and their mega-donor allies.
Shithole country
Yeah but bbq is pretty good, so you win some you lose some
And at least in the case of Louisiana it really won’t be an issue in about 100 years. It’ll be gone
The average American prison hold 800-1200 people. The largest prison in America is Angola, LA, which holds over 8000.
Soon it won’t be the biggest American prison, though. Trump is building a facility in Guantanamo Bay that will hold 30,000 prisoners. Clearly, he and Stephen Miller intend to lock up a lot of people, and NOBODY is talking about it.
PedoCons love to lock people up.
This made me look up Europe vs the US prisoners stats:
European population is 750,000,000.
US population is 350,000,000.Europe has 500,000 prisoners.
US has 2,000,000 prisoners.I knew it would be bad but that’s fucking unbelievable… Half the population but 4x the amount of prisoners.
‘Horrific’: report reveals abuse of pregnant women and children at US Ice facilities
Examples include at least four 911 emergency calls referencing sexual abuse at the South Texas Ice processing center since January.
It would be great if the SEO gods forever associated the names of the superintendent and principal with their public positions of support for child pornographers.
Just like that rapist Brock Turner.
I dont recall what he changed it to, but the rapist Brock Turner is going by a different name now.
Yeah like the rapist Brock Turner.
The only new thing here—from a societal standpoint—is a student being expelled for a single incident of fighting (zero tolerance policies).
Bullying and blackmailing people using manipulated images dates back to the invention of the camera.
I remember when Photoshop started to become easily pirated (via AOL, LOL). Around that time, kids we using it to paste girls faces on to other naked women’s bodies. I also remember news articles from when Facebook was still new, with people creating fake profiles of people and sharing similarly-manipulated images.
What we need is for kids to be taught (in school) the first rule of porn: IT IS FAKE. Bullying will never cease but at the very least we can teach kids not to react so strongly to fake, transient nonsense about them.
They need to be reminded that when someone does something like generating a deepfake of them, it has no bearing on their life until it is distributed. They need to be taught how to gather evidence and the correct places to report such things.
We don’t teach kids such things in school because schools want discretion. Since schools are so obviously failing to NOT abuse their powers of discretion with zero-tolerance policies, perhaps we should take that away.
They need to be reminded that when someone does something like generating a deepfake of them, it has no bearing on their life until it is distributed. They need to be taught how to gather evidence and the correct places to report such things.
Someone needs to remind you how to fucking read, because the images were being distributed and that was why the girls went to the guidance counselor and the police before resorting to violence.
Yes. I read that. I also said what I said.
I’m failing to see the issue.
People freak TF out because things like deepfakes exist. We need to be rational about stuff like this. Manipulating photos and videos isn’t going away. The only point where we can reasonably do something about it is at the point of distribution.
I don’t think you read it. You said " it has no bearing on their life until it is distributed." It was being distributed! You said " They need to be taught how to gather evidence and the correct places to report such things." They did that too, they went to the school and the police. What the fuck else were they supposed to do? Steal their phones to gather evidence? Get real.
It was only when they beat these little pigglets’ asses that the police actually got serious, now the boys are facing charges.
We can reasonably search the phones of teenagers that are trading child porn. It just didn’t happen because, I guess, the school and police didn’t care about what is essentially a child porn trading network that was exploiting and hurting young girls.
I can be morally outraged by things that aren’t illegal. I might be morally outraged enough, and have enough people agree with me, to make that thing illegal. People used to get slapped or beaten for saying inappropriate things like this. These boys learned that the rules of polite society may not be upheld if they aren’t also polite.
It’s okay for people to get outraged that other people do shitty things. I don’t think that has much bearing since the kids in question did shitty and illegal things, but keep on holding onto that belief.
She was being sexually harassed, not bullied. Bullying is serious, sexual harassment is a crime. Whether the images are real or not is immaterial, it would still be sexual harassment if they were passing around a drawing of a nude stick figure with her face pasted on it.
Allowing children to be sexually harassed by their peers and then expelling them for trying to stop the sexual harassment is insane, and so is the idea that you need to teach them to shut up and take it as a way to deal with it.
Sexual harassment is a crime at work. Outside of that, it’s just another form of bullying/harassment.
Assholes will catgall girls as they walk past but that’s not illegal. It’s no different than shouting explitives at minorities. It’s a dick move, but it’s not illegal. Not in the US, anyway (because of the First Amendment).
I’d also like to point out that she didn’t get expelled for “trying to stop” the bullying. She got expelled for violence (against the bullies). That is why I think it’s the zero-tolerance policies that are a huge part of the problem.
If a girl slaps a boy that’s harassing her, there’s very little actual consequences from that. The boy might be sore for a day or two but he might leave her alone after that. Yet our policies forbid this in the most extreme way possible. It’s like being put to death for trampling flowers.
You’re suggesting that people can only be sexually harassed at work?
Lol what?
If what the boys did wasn’t illegal why did the sheriff’s office charge them with a crime but not her?
Do you have any idea what Title IX is or how sexual harassment falls under it?
Also, she did try to stop the bullies by reporting it to the adults in charge at the school. They have a duty to act, and they failed her. Stopping them with force was the only option left to her that would actually stop the sexual harassment, and it was a completely reasonable path to take. If more teenage boys got fuckin popped one for sexually harassing their peers maybe they’d think twice about it.
Bullying and blackmailing people using manipulated images dates back to the invention of the camera.
Not from 13 year olds… what has changed now is the ability to create hyper realistic porn from a picture in seconds with one button click… that is very, very different from the past and glazing it over like this has existed forever is disingenuous.
Blaming the technology is useless and unhelpful. It’s like blaming Photoshop for letting people remove their faces from obvious CSAM.
Kids need to be taught about this stuff! Bitching and trying to regulate the tech is a pointless waste of time. Teaching children how to deal with it is the only realistic thing that can be done.
You not addressing my point is showing how weak your argument is, just an fyi.
Ah yes, make no regulatory framework and just the the kids sort it out without any possible help from the system, sounds brilliant.
The kids seem to know about this stuff just fine. It’s not some lack of knowledge that was the problem here.
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This is trash. All of it.
Tell me you don’t have kids without telling me you don’t have kids.
Or tell me you’re so old you forgot what being a middle schooler was like.
I would 100% support my daughters if they punched someone over this. I’m very passive generally, but I would burn the earth these abusers stand on because of my own life experiences. I’d struggle not to overstep my kids’ wishes.
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I suggest they return the favor with tiny little pee pees. Tit for tat is better than a punch in the face.
In what world?
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Shit like this is so common that the instant I read the headline I thought, ok, so what really happened?
The infuriating thing is that by its own metric it worked; I got successfully baited into reading the article. Fuck these shitty news editors to infinity.
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I don’t actually regret that it worked.
Are you sure though? What actual good did it do in the end; did it result in you doing anything of value or changing your mind on some topic? Or did it just make you a bit angry for a while before going about the rest of your day? (I’m not having a go at you by the way, it’s the bait I’m irritated at)
The headline could have punched so much harder with the truth because it is divisive and justifies multiple ideologies.
“Preteen expelled for physical retaliation after school fails to protect her from AI deep fake nudes.”
- Justifies zero tolerance believers
- Justifies feminists who think she should be a protected class
- Justifies home school proponents
- Justifies public School reform proponents
- Justifies anti-AI crowd
- Appeals to people for whom children ought to be protected
Give more truth in the headline and leave the opinions and slant for the editorial section.
Please apply for editor jobs, so you can write the headlines instead.
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An old soul 😁
I’ve heard of this! It was called joor-nalism by our ancestors
would this qualify as revenge porn? and pedophelia. and retaliation. and…well, she’s going to have an impressive college fund by the time this is all done.
Yes deep fakes have been reclassified in many US states and much of the EU as revenge porn. Most countries have also classified any sexually explicit depiction of a minor as CSAM or as most people refer to it, child porn.
school fails to protect her from AI deep fake nudes
I hear you, but what could the school have actually done to prevent this, realistically? Only way I could see is if smartphones etc. were all confiscated the moment kids step on the school bus (which is where this happened, for anyone not aware, it wasn’t in a classroom), and only returned when they’re headed home, and while it probably would be beneficial overall for kids to not have these devices in school, I don’t think that’s realistically possible in the present day.
And even still, it’d be trivial for the kid to both generate the images and share them with his buddies, after school. I don’t think the school can really be fairly blamed for the deepfake part of this. For not acting more decisively after the fact, sure.
That’s not a question for me to answer. It is, in fact, the school faculty’s duty to educate our school children as well as protect them. It is up to them to determine how to do that. It is also true that they failed her in this instance. There are preventative measures that schools can take to stop bullying both on campus and online. Every time a student is bullied into taking their own drastic measures has been failed by the system. In this case, doubly so as on top of her being bullied into retaliation, she was punished by the system for being failed by the system.
That’s not a question for me to answer.
Then you also shouldn’t be saying that the school “failed” to do something, if you’re not able to even articulate how it could have possibly succeeded in doing that something, no?
It is, in fact, the school faculty’s duty to educate our school children as well as protect them.
Only to a degree that makes sense, though. There’s no way a school can ever stop a student from saying a mean thing to another student, for example. It can only punish after the fact (and “protect” implies prevention, not after-the-fact amelioration).
You can absolutely identify someone failing to do their job without fully understanding how to do said job. You know a bad doctor when you see one just as you know a bad cashier. I’m not a professional educator nor am I a child care professional. But I can absolutely tell when the people we trust to watch and teach our children every day, fail to do so.
You can absolutely identify someone failing to do their job without fully understanding how to do said job. You know a bad doctor when you see one just as you know a bad cashier.
But what’s happening here is similar to a pharmacist being accused of failing to do their job because they filled a prescription that the patient’s doctor erred in prescribing. It’s absolutely not fair to blame the pharmacist for that.
It would be similarly unfair to accuse a cashier of not doing their job because they didn’t apply a discount they were neither ever told about, nor was it labeled on the merchandise it was supposed to apply to, either.
Expecting a school to have the ability to prevent (again, that’s the key word) an image, any image, being shared between students on the bus, is absurd. You can say they failed in appropriately punishing the act after the fact, but it is absolutely not fair to expect that the school can stop it from happening in the first place.
I’m not blaming any one person. I’m blaming the system that failed her.
Yeah but that headline tells the entire story and in a balanced way. You wouldn’t need the content to hold the eyeballs on ads
I sympathize. We should be able to vigilante a MFer if the police will not open a case. Porch pirates stealing packages? Package traps and rocksalt in shotguns. Corrupt government officials … guillotine. Jury nullify this shit.
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That’s my take as well. From what she says she was totally failed by the school and understandably was unhappy and angry. She tried to get others to assault him and for her to be so severely punished, it’s possible her attack was quite severe or there was a history of problems.
In 2011, when I was fourteen, I was outed as trans by someone that I thought was my best friend. As a result, three of my classmates raped me with an object on school grounds before classes began one morning. I reported it to the principal. Her response was “Well, that’s what happens. What have we learned?”, basically saying that me being trans meant that I should have expected to be raped and that I’d deserved it.
(Previously, one of the rapists had taken a nude photo of me while I was changing and uploaded it to MySpace. I had also reported this to the principal, and she’d told me I was “creating problems where there are none”. MySpace took it down at least, so I guess Tom cared more about my safety than the adult whose literal job was to protect kids.)
I was very, very quickly expelled from the school after the rape. I’m not sure what the official “reason” given was, my parents didn’t tell me. They also didn’t fight it, considering what had happened. I had to be homeschooled until graduation.
I became selectively mute after this, a problem that remains to this day. The rapists never got punished for what they did to me. The local PD (in Texas) never followed up on the report my parents made.
Sad that nothing’s changed about how schools handle sexual abuse in the almost-fifteen-years that have passed since then.
Good guy tom… also wtf
I have no words other than to say I am deeply sorry that this happened to you. What a truly atrocious story. I sincerely hope you can heal from this trauma.
For years [decades even] I’ve sought (inadequately) to avoid cameras, aware (in part from my art and special effects aptitude and education) this sort of thing and more, were coming. And now it’s here. And maybe now more mice will realise, in the trap, that it’s a trap. :/ Wasn’t an easy thing to try to warn people about, when so many were incapable of conceiving of the threat. Let alone to get sufficient awareness in sufficient people to affect good change to avert such. Though, mostly I’d only considered the threat from government & corporations. Here now it’s in the hands of almost anyone. And far faster and easier. What “fun”. :-|
I didn’t really think about it until Nano Banana Pro became a thing, before I knew it was possible but it would be so obvious AI. But now? It’s not obvious now. I even consider creating a digital avatar that I use instead of my own face.
Yup:
I even consider creating a digital avatar that I use instead of my own face.
The notion has popped into my thoughts many times.
Like a no-skill puppet to hide behind to preserve privacy while still putting stuff out there.
Yes exactly!
It somehow feels more doable now since avatars on other sites are becoming more common, I mostly think of Facebook/Meta and Snapchat. But also generated images that have been trending, “me as action-figure”, “me in ghibli style” etc. and even filters that people use consistently.
I think people are getting more used to seeing different types of avatars.
Fed up, she attacked a boy on the bus, inviting others to join her. She was kicked out of Sixth Ward Middle School for more than 10 weeks and sent to an alternative school. She said the boy whom she and her friends suspected of creating the images wasn’t sent to that alternative school with her. The 13-year-old girl’s attorneys allege he avoided school discipline altogether.
When the sheriff’s department looked into the case, they took the opposite actions. They charged two of the boys who’d been accused of sharing explicit images — and not the girl.
This problem won’t stop until law enforcement starts treating deepfakes of minors as possession of child pornography with all the legal ramifications that come with it. Young boys need to understand that their actions have consequences.
In the meantime, no one under 18 should be on social media. I wish AI, deepfakes or in general, could just be illegal, but laws aren’t catching up and people are being victimized.
100% AI image generation should be banned
I see Louisiana is living up to its international reputation.
The classmates who created and shared them should be arrested and charged with distributing CSAM. It’s unimaginable that this would be tolerated to such an extent and then the victim punished when they are given no other option but to stand up for themselves. This country is sick to it’s core.
They should be expelled, but why would children be tried the same as an adult doing this? They’re the same age, it’s not pedophilia, it’s normal expected attraction. Anything beyond expulsion and whatever goes with ai porn harassment between adults is a huge overreaction.
Would you want two consenting teenagers arrested for csam if they’re texting each other nudes? I would hope not
If I can play somewhat the opposite here …… this girl was completely failed by the school system and those parents ought to be demanding serious changes.
But also schools make what seem unfair actions when they don’t have evidence, can’t identify all the perpetrators and want to get the victim away from her bullies. Even if the school did the right thing about taking it seriously, we probably wouldn’t like their actions
And even sending the bullies to jail with a kiddie porn conviction may be satisfying but is a bad choice. Bullying your classmates is not really the same as kiddie porn and schools need to find better ways to handle punishment to try to graduate a responsible mature member of society rather than graduate a lifelong criminal
So she provably assaulted someone over an unprovable claim and got punished. Sounds like every case of bullying I’ve ever heard.
But it was provable, the police charged the boys.
