Dozens of public housing apartments will get plug-in induction ranges as part of the initiative, which aims to eventually shift 10,000 NYCHA homes off the use of polluting fossil fuel appliances.
So they are replacing gas stoves because of pollution (article notes it), but adding a bunch of wildly over-priced e-waste (WiFi stove? GTFOOH), adding random fire risk (Lithium-Ion batteries are notorious for this), and doing so at tax payer expense. Nice.
I feel like the $60M (plus labor/install costs) they will spend on these stoves for 10K homes would probably do a good deal of fixing whatever the reliability issues are, in the current gas environment, without wapping 10K stoves. We all know it’s not "for the environment), it’s “who knows someone on the board at that startup selling these stoves”.
Some I checked are using LFP batteries. LFP aren’t a fire hazard. Not sure if all of the stoves use LFP but I’d say it’s likely. Using non-LFP is significantly more expensive and they die much quicker.
LFP batteries are safer than NMC. But LFP batteries can still catch fire, explode. They can’t be extinguished with water. They produce very toxic gasses. In the event of a structure fire, they remain in place, while a building’s gas supply can be turned off.
Right now everyone is installing enormous batteries everywhere with little concern for fire hazard. My suspicion is that as the number of fires, and death toll, climbs, we’re going to see increasingly strict regulations on large batteries, ultimately outlawing everything from power stations to electric cars from multi-unit residential buildings.
So they are replacing gas stoves because of pollution (article notes it), but adding a bunch of wildly over-priced e-waste (WiFi stove? GTFOOH), adding random fire risk (Lithium-Ion batteries are notorious for this), and doing so at tax payer expense. Nice.
I feel like the $60M (plus labor/install costs) they will spend on these stoves for 10K homes would probably do a good deal of fixing whatever the reliability issues are, in the current gas environment, without wapping 10K stoves. We all know it’s not "for the environment), it’s “who knows someone on the board at that startup selling these stoves”.
Some I checked are using LFP batteries. LFP aren’t a fire hazard. Not sure if all of the stoves use LFP but I’d say it’s likely. Using non-LFP is significantly more expensive and they die much quicker.
Fuck the WiFi.
LFP batteries are safer than NMC. But LFP batteries can still catch fire, explode. They can’t be extinguished with water. They produce very toxic gasses. In the event of a structure fire, they remain in place, while a building’s gas supply can be turned off.
Right now everyone is installing enormous batteries everywhere with little concern for fire hazard. My suspicion is that as the number of fires, and death toll, climbs, we’re going to see increasingly strict regulations on large batteries, ultimately outlawing everything from power stations to electric cars from multi-unit residential buildings.