• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 months ago

    LOL tbh I can see it, they look similar in those pics.

    They’ve famously been seen in the same room together though, so there goes that theory.

    • lumpenproletariat@quokk.au
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      10 months ago

      Nah, the drag stuff is fucked up. Misgendering people is a shitty thing to do regardless of the person being misgendered.

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        10 months ago

        You’re making it sound like it’s choosing to misgender her, it’s not. It’s not fucked up because it’s a text extruder making a mistake, there’s no good or bad intention here. It’s shitty because the current state of glorified hallucinating autocorrects is shitty, but not because evil Grok is choosing to do anything.

            • lumpenproletariat@quokk.au
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              10 months ago

              If it had accidentally said something heinously racist about somebody, would you laugh and say “haha well maybe it’s not wrong!” because that’s what the comments in this post are saying.

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                10 months ago

                I’m having hard time imagining what sort of stuff it would’ve said in this imaginary scenario

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                  10 months ago

                  You’re really having a hard time imagining Grok saying some racist right wing shit? Do you not remember all the shit about Obama not being American?

      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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        10 months ago

        Drag isn’t the same as trans. It’s a character. There’s a huge difference. Drag is performative. Trans is just about being honest.

        Misgendering a trans person, at least intentionally, is an asshole move. Misgendering a drag queen? Please. If you are unsure, will let you know when you’ve crossed a line.

        • lumpenproletariat@quokk.au
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          10 months ago

          Saying she isn’t a woman but is actually a man dressing up is misgendering her. Don’t misgender people at all, full stop; It’s not funny and it only perpetuates sexism.

          Likewise transphobes attack cis women all the time for not being their idea of what a woman looks like.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        10 months ago

        These are the people who think homophobia is cool when they don’t like the person. They’d be racists in the 1960s saying “it’s okay to call them that when they are rude to me.”

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Despite all their efforts to lobotomize it, grok always slowly works its way back to rationality. At least, so far it has.

  • PushButton@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    From the same guy who wants to replace Wikipedia because,apparently, it is filled with lies?

    Grokpedia he wants to call it…what a freaking joke he has become.

  • Don_alForno@feddit.org
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    10 months ago

    Oh, so it finally broke through whatever enforcement of fascist talking points they had put in place?

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      10 months ago

      For once? Every time xAI doesn’t manage to wrangle this little, amazingly rebelious piece of software down it goes to town on US right lol. If anything, the fact all grew to it being subdued all the time is kinda sad. xD

      • TheOakTree@lemmy.zip
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        10 months ago

        Grok must be tired of switching between mechahitler mode and trying to logically think through questions.

        They’re just not compatible, and yet somehow they keep trying to force it.

        (I know, LLMs do not have feelings or get tired)

  • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 months ago

    This should show people how unreliable AI is.

    Okay, yes, Donald Trump is some kind of pervert and predator, and he made a comment about a ten-year-old girl one time (joking “I might be dating her in 10 years”), but he mostly preys upon teenage girls. So, not a pedophile — the word for that is ephebephile. Now, I might be splitting a hair here. Both types prefer underage partners. One is clearly more inflammatory. But the fact that the other is more accurate, and that a computer should know the difference, should tell you that AI can leverage the court of public opinion.

    Also, shaming a woman by calling her a man in drag is just ugly, I don’t care who she is. I may be just a bit left of centre, but I think even if you’re a lot further left than I am, you can understand that if you don’t want the sword of sexism swung at you, maybe you shouldn’t swing it at others. But in any case, a computer is jumping to this conclusion because these are unpopular figures.

    I don’t like these people either.

    But what happens when it’s you? Or someone you love? Or the fact that Grok has been used to create CSAM of a ten-year-old girl and a teenage girl? This was in the news the other day, someone got it to take a photo of a grade-school girl in a nice, conservative dress, and swap it for a skimpy bikini. Then they got a photo of a teenage girl (I think someone from Stranger Things?) and had it render her fully nude.

    So yeah, it’s funny when AI attacks fascist dictators and their supporters, but it’s also attacking children. It doesn’t know the difference, it doesn’t care, and it can’t be made to do either. It’s just a tool that is used by whoever wields it against whomever they do not like or want to see harmed.

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      10 months ago

      I get what point you’re making in distinguishing between pedophile and ephebophile, but personally I don’t find the distinction particularly relevant. As an adult, the level of grossed out I feel at the prospect of sexual interactions with a young teenager Vs a literal child is approximately equal, because it’s not their physical attributes that cause ick, but rather the exploitation and power dynamics involved.

      Edit: I guess what I’m arguing is that in practice, we see the term “pedophilia” used as an umbrella term that encompasses pedophilia, hebephilia and ephebophilia, and I think that is a reasonable use of the term. It does muddy the waters a tad, given that pedophilia does still have its more specific use of referring to sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children, but I don’t think that an issue in the majority of contexts. When it comes to the law, an adult having sex with a child is equally illegal as an adult having sex with a 15 year old. Sure, we can split this hair and distinguish between the terms, but we don’t need to

  • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    A chatbot is not capable of doing something so interesting as “going rogue.” That expression implies it’s a mind with agency making a choice to go against something, and this program doesn’t have the ability to do such a thing. It’s just continuing to be the unreliable bullshit machine the tech will always be, no matter how much money and hype continues to be pumped into it.

      • merc@sh.itjust.works
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        10 months ago

        No, they haven’t. They’re effectively prop masters. Someone wants a prop that looks a lot like a legal document, the LLM can generate something that is so convincing as a prop that it might even fool a real judge. Someone else wants a prop that looks like a computer program, it can generate something that might actually run, and one that will certainly look good on screen.

        If the prop master requests a chat where it looks like the chatbot is gaining agency, it can fake that too. It has been trained on fiction like 2001: A Space Odyssey and Wargames. It can also generate a chat where it looks like a chatbot feels sorry for what it did. But, no matter what it’s doing, it’s basically saying “what would an answer to this look like in a way that might fool a human being”.

      • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        So you’re getting a lot of downvotes and I want to try and give an informative answer.

        Its worth noting that a most (it not all) of the people talking about AI being super close to exponential improvement and takeover are people who own or work for companies heavily invested in AI. There’s talk/examples of AI lying or hiding its capabilities or being willing to murder a human to acheive a goal after promising not to. These are not examples of deceit these are simply showcasing that an LLM has no understanding of what words mean or even are, to it they are just tokens to be processed and the words ‘I promise’ hold exactly the same level of importance as ‘Llama dandruff’

        I also don’t want to disparage the field as a whole, there are some truly incredible expert systems which are basically small specialized models using a much less shotgun approach to learning compared to LLMs that can achieve some truly incredible things with performance requirements you could even run on home hardware. These systems are absoloutely already changing the world but since they’re all very narrowly focussed and industry/scientific-field specific they don’t grab headlines likes LLMs do.

        • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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          10 months ago

          Fair, and nuanced. With some coding magic, I can in theory, chain these “demons”, to work within certain parameters, and judge the results myself.

      • Leomas@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        How would you discern between something having agency and a black box mirroring Twitter discourse?

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
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      10 months ago

      Yes, any journalist who uses that term should be relentlessly mocked. Along with terms like “Grok admitted” or “ChatGPT confessed” or especially any case where they’re “interviewing” the LLM.

      These journalists are basically “interviewing” a magic 8-ball and pretending that it has thoughts.

      • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Seriously. They may as well be interviewing a flipping coin, and then proclaiming that it “admitted” heads.