• ProfThadBach@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I use this time in the morning to ease into my day. 5 am here in Western North Carolina. What the fuck is wrong with America? I am sick to my stomach right now.

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      9 months ago

      What the fuck is wrong with America?

      Same as always. Not the first time you invade or sabotage a foreign country in order to hide your crumbling internal issues.

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          9 months ago

          No to that user. This isn’t the “same as always”. The US just Pearl Harbored a country, and the excuse was “drug smugglers”.

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            Not the first time you invade or sabotage a foreign country in order to hide your crumbling internal issues.

            This is what they were referring to though, and in that regard what is wrong with the us now is the same as with what was wrong with the us before.

            But i do agree, the way the us did it this time is with a much bigger fuck you to international law and with much more idc what yall think to the international community.

  • vga@sopuli.xyzBanned
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    9 months ago

    Seems like a rather clean and successful operation, not unlike Russia’s similar attempt 4 years ago. Shows what a properly powerful military can do, I guess.

    Maduro has supported Russia’s illegal conquest in Ukraine, and is an oppressive dictator, so I’m not shedding any tears for him.

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      9 months ago

      I shed no tears for Maduro personally but I shed tears for Venezuela and I’m livid and absolutely outraged at Trump.

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        9 months ago

        That is true, however if this is all the military action that happens there, the civilians are going to get off pretty easy on this one.

        I know this is a big if at this point, but it is one possibility.

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      9 months ago

      You’re really begging for downvotes with this comment, but I’m curious: how do you see this situation playing out? Do you think a couple steps ahead, or just react?

      My guess is that is going to go like this:

      1. Trump admin tries to install Machado as US puppet government in Venezuela.
      2. Mass popular uprising from the Venezuelan people, significant violence, attempts at deposing or assassinating Machado.
      3. US boots on the ground to prop up Machado regime. -or-
      4. US abandons Venezuela project, leaving devastation and chaos behind.
      5. Inevitable blowback, Americans killed.
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        9 months ago

        You’re really begging for downvotes with this comment

        Fortunately I don’t give a fuck about downvotes. I don’t even see them so they might as well not exist.

        how do you see this situation playing out?

        Seems to me that Venezuela hasn’t reacted in any way to this. So unless that changes, it seems to me that they’re gonna just take whatever USA is going to do them.

        The same would have happened to Ukraine if Russia had succeeded in what they tried to do there.

        Trump admin tries to install Machado as US puppet government in Venezuela.

        Why Machado? Genuine question here, I didn’t realize she was a serious option for this.

        I think it’s gonna be either

        1. Venezuela finally gets rid of communism for good and is going to prosper.

        or

        1. Venezuela finally gets rid of communism, but it’s replaced with thieving oligarchies and they are not going to prosper.

        If we look at history, 6 happened to most eastern bloc countries and China, 7 happened to some eastern bloc countries and Russia itself. I don’t know enough about Venezuela’s internal politics to tell which is more likely there.

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        9 months ago
        1. Mass popular uprising from the Venezuelan people, significant violence, attempts at deposing or assassinating Machado.

        This won’t happen. Venezuelans were incredibly tired of Maduro’s regime. I know majority of people in US are enraged by this, because is an act of aggression and so on, but majority of people in Venezuela are not, because this is finally the end of Maduro and possibly Chavism.

  • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    They’ve been bombed. Not just explosions, the child rapist asking for a nobel peace prize just bombed them. Nice way to start 2026… Here’s hoping Venezuela becomes the cunt’s Vietnam!

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    9 months ago

    There was also airplanes flying low over the city. I read that it was 7 explosions and that the area without electricity is near a major military base.

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      9 months ago

      Is that the guy that had to make an apology video after accidentally showing his porn folder containing borderline illegal porn and being outed as sexually harassing his discord members? Is it that Vaush?

  • Arghblarg@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    What an ineffective distraction ftom the Epstein Files!

    And what a travesty Drumpf is literally playing with the lives of others, American and Venezuelan, to do so.

    • Horsecook@sh.itjust.worksBanned
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      9 months ago

      no matter how many men Trump murders, I will not be distracted from what’s truly important, which is that he raped women decades ago

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        9 months ago

        Agreed! Who CARES if Trump raped 10 year old WOMEN? He was just a 50 year old CHILD then!

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        Ah yes, let’s ignore the fact that he spent the bulk of his adult life grooming and raping girls (not “women”, but minors) with his best friend, the world’s most notorious pedophile sex trafficker, because he is starting an unprovoked war over oil.

        Genuine question: are you really incapable of being angry about multiple things at once, or do you just have a generally laissez-faire attitude towards violent sex crimes against kids?

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          9 months ago

          are you really incapable of being angry about multiple things at once

          Then why keep going on about distractions?

          “My president is bombing innocent people, I bet he’s only doing it to distract us from him being a pedo” is not the enlightened stance you think it is

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            9 months ago

            The truth is that Americans don’t care about their country killing foreigners, but they care a little more if their president is shown to be sexually impure. Politically it’s way more relevant.

            Puritanism and all that.

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              “Sexually impure”…? He could have every freaky kink in the book and I wouldn’t care at all…

              He raped and trafficked children.

              It’s not exactly “puritanism” to be mad about that. And we can still be mad about the imperialist invasion of Venezuela.

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                9 months ago

                Yeah and he also killed many MANY more than he raped, yet they don’t matter as much, apparently.

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              9 months ago

              Can I just jump in here and say as an American I fucking care. I think we need to prosecute presidents for war crimes. All of them. I think every living former president deserves to be on trial for the murders they have committed. I’m staunchly anti-death-penalty but would make an exception if it prevents them from pardoning each other. This is the ONLY way we will reign in my country’s insane bipartisan military aggression, presidents should be scared as hell to misuse that power. I’m fucking horrified.

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    9 months ago

    What I’ve found so far: CNN has a team present in Caracas and witnessed the strikes.

    • 7 explosions reported - likely missile strikes to disable air defense
    • 2 smoke plumes reported - likely from sites struck with missiles
    • a flight of helicopters which could be MH60 Sea Hawk - nothing very impressive, a random civilian filmed them going low and slow, MANPADS fodder but it seems they got lucky on that leg of the run

    Some X account posted footage from the Iranian attack on Israel and claimed it to be Venezuela.

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      9 months ago

      a flight of helicopters which could be MH60 Sea Hawk

      In the videos I saw, the helicopters were twin-rotor design. Some variant of the CH-47 Chinook.

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      a flight of helicopters which could be MH60 Sea Hawk - nothing very impressive, a random civilian filmed them going low and slow, MANPADS fodder but it seems they got lucky on that leg of the run

      It seems like those helicopters carried special forces that are now on the ground and doing what they are there to do.

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        It seems like those helicopters carried special forces that are now on the ground and doing what they are there to do.

        It actually seems they hit the jackpot - they claim to have taken Maduro prisoner and claim to have taken him out of the country.

        If all of that is true, I’m still not sure if I’m impressed by the operation. A loose grid of guys with shoulder-launched missiles on a few rooftops could have ruined absolutely all of it.

        But if they got in without getting shot down, got Maduro and got out without getting shot down, then luck favoured them and war will hopefully not ensue.

        Maduro had likely built everything on personal loyalty to himself. A normal country would continue fighting and delegate authority downward, but Maduro wasn’t running a normal country, apparently.

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          Seems like everything went smooth and that Maduro is gone from power now. It is good that Maduro is gone but we’ll see what happens with Venezuela now, hopefully it becomes better but I’m far from certain about that.

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            Since I find that my own optimism was premature (I should cross out my last paragraph), I will cool your optimism too. As much as I currently understand, Maduro is gone, but the ministers of interior and defense, and the vice president, are fine. The figurehead is gone, the regime is armed and retains power.

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              Didn’t Trump say that US will take control over Venezuela for now? In that case I assume the regime will fall. But he says a lot of things, so who knows what that means? Maybe he made a deal with the vice president etc. that they can rule as long as he gets some money from the oil.

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      Trump is good friends with Saudis. The Saudis bring in billions every day because of their oil. Trump covets that, and wishes he had that.

      Venezuela is sitting above the largest oil deposit on the planet. Trump wants it. If he can control Venezuela, he can control that oil, and be as rich as the Saudis.

      It’s always easy with Trump. Just follow the money.

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    9 months ago

    I can’t help but think that this is gonna be my home city of Montréal soon. Better prepare, I guess.

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    9 months ago

    As an American I fully condemn this, condemn the regime that ordered it, condemn the Military Officers that received orders to do this and didn’t immediately resign, and fully hope that International consequences against the guilty parties will be forthcoming.

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          9 months ago

          They have, repeatedly. Millions upon millions of them. The biggest protests EVER.

          But you are free to come here and show us how it’s done! Lead the way

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            Unless you’re having big protests everyday, or at the least every weekend than you’ve accomplished nothing. If you don’t get labor and other non-governmental organizations on your side to start shutting down broad swaths of the economy and society, they ignore you. It’s not rocket science.

            • Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.world
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              what percentage of your people are unionized?

              In USA it’s 10%, and most of those are ironically police and feds what an odd coincidence.

              POLAND has better benefits than the USA, longer vacations, health care, and more. We’ve been surpassed by eastern Europe.

              But Musk is a trillionaire yaaay

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            Have two or three big protests in a year is not “taking to the streets”. It’s performative bullshit.

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    Well on the bright side, thank fucking Ares we no longer have to listen to Tulsi Gabbard’s smug performative “end the forever wars” bullshit.

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      She will say this is the war to end all wars or some BS like that. Words mean nothing to these people.

    • Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Trump wouldn’t have won either election if congress had a spine.

      (emoluments for example).

      Congress was with him, even when they impeached him (and didn’t actually convict).

      Without congress, Trump wouldn’t be possible. No functioning government would have him as President.

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    9 months ago

    USA is a terrorist country and must disappear. Theyve only killed killed and killed people since its inception. Fuck USA