I’m not from the US so all of this is baffling. In Europe and even South America there’s tons of mechanisms to stop that from happening, and this kind of meddling would seriously result in arrests. However this is happening in the US with these people going completely unchecked. How is that even possible?!

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    It doesn’t seem like people are really aware that the coup was successful this time. All the shit we are seeing is just fallout from that.

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    Laws are only a thing if enforced.

    The fox is in the hen house so if we want law enforcement we need to make sure it happens ourselves.

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      To add to this: The Supreme Court has granted the president immunity from any wrongdoing in addition to pardoning powers.

      So Trump or anyone close to him can essentially not be convicted which leads to the massive corruption we’re seeing right now.

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    It is a real department, sort of. Trump used Legislation that was intended for an Obama Era “US Digital Service” and rebranded it “US DOGE Service”. He didn’t even need to change the acronym, although it is now a nested acronym.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_DOGE_Service

    They do, in fact, overstep their legal boundaries quite often. But the administration simply fires anyone in any other department who gets in the way until they get an acquiescent administrator who lets them grab the department by the pussy.

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      “When you are rich and famous enough, they just let you do it.”

      I wish Trump bragging about sexual assault wasn’t national policy.

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    It’s good to be a king, and that’s what Trump is now. The people in charge of defending us from this took the money instead.

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    there’s tons of mechanisms to stop that from happening

    There are tons of such mechanisms in the United States as well. Unfortunately the mechanisms essentially boil down to laws, policies, and norms. Doing an illegal action does not pull a lever that deposits you in jail. The whole system relies on the people in power choosing to do the right thing. That’s going to be a potential issue in any country with centralized power.

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      I watched similar thing happen in my own country. It was just one decision (so far) and made with a very comfortable parlamentary majority. The problem was that it was supposed to be unconstitutional according to wast majority of constitutional experts. That turned out to be absolutely no problem for the parlament and the administration.

      It’s not even that I am too much against what they decided, but it did change my views on the nature of law. Any law or constitution is just a paper if it isnt enforced and will carry no weight, when it is simply ignored.

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    south america has a tradition of government reform and transparency wherein criminals in government are arrested sometimes forcibly. no such tradition exists in the USA

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      And the purpose of the executive branch is to enforce the policies created by the other two branches. Sooo. Yeah. A vote for Trump, or no vote at all, was a vote for this

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    It’s a coup. They are currently rewriting the rules of how things are done.

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      It’s a coup. They are currently rewriting willfully ignoring the rules of how things are done.

      FTFY

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    there’s tons of mechanisms to stop that from happening

    Those are fake. Laws are fake. Government is fake. Money is fake. Everything is an illusion. It’s not a physical law of nature or something. It all boils down to if someone feels like doing something or meh… and the people in charge here are more like meh.

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      Yeah anything involving human behavior is ultimately…just based on how people feel and act. There’s (currently) no Robocop programmed to enforce laws to the letter.

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    This is like in Latin America when a president wins a CIA backed ‘election’ and then creates a NEW legislative branch of government that has twice the power of the current legislative goverment, it’s a very simple and obvious way to practice ‘legalism’ which is a Fascist principal of doing things that APPEAR legal. But clearly aren’t.

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    In Europe and even South America there’s tons of mechanisms to stop that from happening,

    How naive is you?

    The only difference between US and other regimes is that other regimes understand political science and current US regime doesn’t…

    Make no mistake, this behavior will have consequences for the US government. People seeing this behavior in such raw condition will rewire the subjects brains going forward.

    Big part of being a sovereign is having peasants accept your authority… You don’t fucking piss on their faces en mass and then expect them to obey Lol

    It is getting hard for normies to larp “Constitution” online haha

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    The answer to ALL things going on in the US is simple:

    Who’s gonna stop them?

    The president and his (ex?-)boyfriend are doing whatever the FUCK they want, and they even have the backing of the Supreme Court, so the only way to stop them is active resistance.

    You’d be surprised at how effective it is to absolutely ignore the law when you’re on top of the heap. I expect that Le Pen would do the same if she got a chance; as would Poilievre, the nuts in charge of the AfD, or any of the unrepentant fascists.

    The truth is that the laws put in place to stop this sort of behaviour are like the velvet ropes for crowd control. They only work is people decide to obey them, and if someone were to stomp over them all, it’s only the other people who could stop that person from reaching the front of the line.