I’ve confirmed this with multiple accounts now. If you promote the 2nd amendment, including training responsibly with others, your account will be autobanned within 60 seconds.
To be clear, my comments contained exactly zero calls to violence. They were simple comments stating every American has the right to arm themselves and that everyone should train responsibly, ideally with others who are more experienced.
I’ve had 4 or 5 accounts autobanned within a minute now. All immediately after posting pro 2nd amendment comments. These accounts were anywhere from 1 week to multiple months old. So they’re not brand new accounts that are being flagged for whatever reason.
Reddit is now complicit in the fascist takeover of our nation.
EDIT: Been testing some more with a 2 week old account. Discovered that Reddit is also autobanning accounts that use the word “guillotine”. I left a comment that literally only consisted of the word “guillotine”, no other context at all, and within 30 seconds I was auto-suspended for 3 days.
If the mod who was in here telling people I was lying with no proof whatsoever, and who also lied about testing my methods, would like to test this out, or lie about testing it out, that would be great.
And, for the record, my username for the account just suspended actually has the word “Guillotine” in it. So apparently their bots don’t screen usernames. Just contents of comments, and I’m assuming posts. I don’t bother posting on Reddit, so I don’t know about that one.
As I originally stated, Reddit is complicit in the fascist takeover of our nation.
Edit 2: Despite a mod on this sub claiming that I’m lying and threatening to delete this post, here is more proof from users on Reddit that Reddit is, in fact, auto banning users for discussing our Constitutional rights.
I’ve been seeing more and more Reddit users talking about this.
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Just lurk on reddit. Don’t contribute anything there. Leech like u/spez does & you’ll be happier.
When my accounts were permanently banned I spammed AI gibberish into all of my past comments. Salt the earth and deny them any benefit from your efforts.
Just leave reddit already, it doesn’t have anything of value.
It’s the same thing as bitching about Facebook while still using it.
It stopped being helpful years ago, I no longer trust advice on there since It’s usually an ad or someone insulting the poster for not knowing the answer because they have a life outside of being on reddit 24/7
Only things I really miss not being able to post on reddit are the forums for magic the gathering, and Project Diablo 2.
But I need to know if a manager providing feminine hygiene products makes them the asshole
The smaller niche communities can still have something of value, but I only read, never contribute.
But also do it with SearXNG search engine when possible so you can get a direct Internet Archive link.
If you’re still using reddit then you are complicit in the takeover too.
You gotta siphon off the content and users while ad blocking.
I’ve thought a out that. Would people appreciate it if I were to repost a bunch if things from reddit all the time? I don’t want to start spamming
i personally don’t mind, but i think some communities have rules about not reposting from reddit
Would people appreciate it if I were to repost a bunch if things from reddit all the time? I don’t want to start spamming
They would if the content hasn’t been posted yet on lemmy.
I don’t feel sufficiently motivated to make a reddit account again, but if I did I’d focus on reposting from communities for which there isn’t an active equivalent on Lemmy yet. The long tail of niche interests is the thing that’s most missing right now
I only continue to use Reddit to combat misinformation, defend our Constitution, and promote Lemmy.
I’ve never given them a dime. I block all ads.
Combatting misinfo on corpo sites is a lost cause. They put their thumb on the scale.
Your traffic is measured by them and used to increase their numbers when making ad sales. Regardless of whether you have given them any money and blocked all their ads, you still count as traffic to the site, and that is what they are selling to advertisers.
So, yes, even though you don’t intentionally give them any money, the majority of the money they make is from the valuation placed on traffic to the site, which you continue contributing to.
I guess that begs the question, is spending the majority of your time on a generally censorship free site like Lemmy, but continuing to spend some time on the most popular site of its kind that does censor, in order to combat misinformation, defend our rights, and promote a better site morally wrong? Is it worth conbributing to their ad revenue? When you know the site is so popular it isn’t going anywhere anyway?
Either way, this is a Lemmy sub about Reddit and you can’t really know everything that’s going on with Reddit unless you’re logged in and contributing in some way.
Personally, I believe correcting misinformation and spreading awareness about our rights is worth continuing to login on a sporadic basis.
You aren’t changing minds online. Boycott them all already.
It’s not always about the people you’re arguing with. It’s often about people who might be reading the comment chains, and can be influenced
Bingo.
Myself, along with everyone else, have spent our lives being influenced by all sorts of things, both obvious and subliminal. I have absolutely read comments online over the course of my life, especially when I was younger, that helped make me more informed or forced me to challenge something I believed.
I wouldn’t know half the stats I know regarding politics if it wasn’t for comments left by informed individuals online that led me elsewhere to confirm those stats.
Well, something to consider is that engaging on Reddit isn’t even on the level of limited individual action like voting is. You’re having a cascading effect on the viability of the site by engaging with other people. It’s what makes the site function. You’re the product for advertisers in more ways than one.
Besides, clearly you believe in the power of collective action making a difference, given you’re promoting firearms training with others. Same energy applies to withdrawing from the site.
I use it for niche subreddits. Lemmy is lacking on that front. 🤷♂️
Be the change you want to see.
same - but be sure to contribute to the niches here when you can, so the people from there have a reason to start coming here :)
I wonder if you can promote it in the conservative subs? Probably only if your entire account is right-wing bullshit to begin with.
They only killed off certain right wing subs when legitimate threats on there were posted against state police one time. They coddle the right and villainize those left of them.
Just to be clear: Account suspension (i.e. a ban from the entire website) or a ban from, say, r/herpderp. The former is from paid reddit employees, the latter is from volunteer user moderators.
Yes.
But Reddit also employes site-wide automated banning. The instances of banning that I’m talking about all happened essentially instantly. It was a bot that banned me site-wide.
It’s also possible they’re auto banning based on IP address. Have you tried this with a VPN and a new server each time?
Make sure if you are doing this you use an EU server as otherwise VPN use will result in an instant shadowban
Do they not do that in the EU?
I don’t see how it could be based on IP. I don’t do anything IP related during this process and my accounts can last for months before being banned within a minute of posting a pro 2A comment with what I believe are key words the ban bot is looking for.
I’ve got a VPN, but I’m usually alternating between gaming and Reddit and I’m not gonna run a VPN while I’m gaming. I don’t care enough about Reddit to do that.
Most likely related to the today’s murder of that woman by ICE
This is something I’ve been testing over the last 6 months.
That’s even worse. Indicates a planned action to shut down discontent.
As far as I can tell, it very much is.
Silence the agitators so the federal government doesn’t put pressure on Reddit.
We live in an age of cowardice as far as our media/corporations go.
Does /r/liberalgunowners even exist anymore?
It does, but OP says it doesn’t.
It can’t, OP said something happened so it must be true
You could stop talking shit and test it out yourself.
It’s not like I haven’t given all the details necessary for people to test on their own if they have doubts.
Try it and get back to us. I’m sure as a moderator your input after testing would be valuable to us all.
P.S. I screen grabbed this exchange.
You screen grabbed yourself being afraid to answer a question? Why on earth would you want to remember that?
I don’t need to try it because I see tons of pro-2A content that isn’t what you wrote, which I am assuming was a direct threat, since you’re afraid to admit it
And yes, I am a mod, one who hates misinformation and has debated removing this post since you made it.
You screen grabbed yourself being afraid to answer a question?
You’re a mod. Not a good one, but one nonetheless. Your job is to read. Read all my comments, including from today. What other questions do you have? People who aren’t full of themselves asked me good questions which led to me adding more details in some of my comments.
which I am assuming
Well, when you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME. Try to do it less. I assure you it was not a direct threat. Whether you believe that is of no consequence to me.
one who hates misinformation
Then test it out my man. What better way to confirm it’s misinformation? But again, to be a good mod you need to read ALL my comments to make sure you’re testing under the same set of circumstances that I’ve detailed.
and has debated removing this post since you made it.
A mod who removes posts for misinformation without verifying that it’s misinformation is no better than a bad Reddit mod.
Screen grabbed.
Tested it. Didn’t get banned.
You realize screen capturing your own admissions about your shortcomings isn’t a threat to me, right? Idk how else to say that lol. Sorry if it sounds mean dude but you need to back up your claims with evidence. If being asked for evidence triggers you this much, idk what to tell you
Far-right nuts have been screaming about that 2nd amendment you guys have for decades.
Now that left-wingers are talking about it… it’s a problem.
Pretty sure you need to make a fash account if you want to post about that kind of stuff.
Reddit has been complicit in the rise of facism for a while.
Meh
I’ve confirmed this with multiple accounts now.
I mean, you’re breaking their rules right up front. That could mean they’re banning you simply based on that rule, and nothing necessarily to do with rights advocation.
Unless of course you’re doing a top job of disguising each new acct. AFAIK, they’re pretty good at detecting that stuff… (I mean accts that aren’t IP-related and such)
Unless of course you’re doing a top job of disguising each new acct.
I am. That’s why some of these accounts are months old before being banned within less than a minute of posting a pro 2A comment. It’s an automated bot ban based on the content of my comment, which, like I said, contains no calls to violence or anything else that breaks Reddit’s rules. My suspicion is that if your comment contains a few key words, that’s all the bot is looking for. I don’t believe those words need to be in sequence, just anywhere within your comment. So it could be looking for “arm yourself”, “rights”, or “train” anywhere in your comment.
If you’ve been on Reddit long enough, you know that whenever kids get their heads blown off, which is all the time, there’s a sea of Reddit comments supporting the 2nd amendment and basically stating that the sacrifice is worth the right. No problems there.
But now…all of a sudden…automated instabans on pro 2A comments.
It’s become pretty obvious what’s going on.
Okay, fair enough, but that brings up another angle–
What if they have a site-wide bias (and they almost certainly do, for perfectly good reasons), for new accts and/or little-used accts to demonstrate a level of non-controversial engagement before passing a certain litmus test… in which the accts are later allowed much more freedom to post & comment upon controversial matters?The good-faith test, so to speak.
Because without a shred of doubt, there most be a huge influx of new and sleeper accts that are created for sockpuppet, propaganda, and destabilization purposes, apart from whatever political angle they’re coming from.
So isn’t it possible you’re getting tripped up right there? Which is why I’m thinking a far better test would be to bring up the 2A from older accts with solid karma and solid analytics (rrc.fyi, reveddit.com, snoosnoop.com, etc)
That person doesn’t seem willing to share any details of their setup, but you don’t have to take them at their word.
Just search “arm yourself” on Reddit and you’ll see a ton of such messages, from non banned accounts, posted in the last few hours and beyond. Most of them are written in the context of the current regime and the ICE shooting too so the premise of this whole post seems to be wrong. Most of them are on subs that are wildly anti-regime and don’t mince words about it.
OP seems to think they have perfect opsec which is generally a sign of mediocre opsec. I’d take their conclusions with a huge grain of salt.
And what do you know about these matters, Bobb?
I read it in a crudely xeroxed pamphlet, of course 🌭
Well, isn’t that the way! :D
Hmm, there is much to ponder, here…
You can take as many grains of salt as you want. Open a salt mine.
If you read through my comments I’ve made it clear that I believe it is a combination of keywords that are initiating these auto-bans. But those keywords aren’t breaking site rules. It is a behind-the-scenes effort by Reddit to ban users who have used a combination of these key words in their comments, despite those key words not amounting to breaking any rules.
So “arm yourself” alone won’t get you banned, and nowhere, in any of my comments, did I imply that. In my original post I paraphrased what got me banned this time because Reddit deleted the comment so I couldn’t copy/paste. But that paraphrase includes a few key things that I think triggers an auto-ban.
So if I said “arm youself” and “train” and “fascist” in the same comment, that could be what triggers the auto-ban. But those key words alone don’t break any site rules and I didn’t include them in a configuration that implied violence. So I could say
“We live in scary political times. Fascism has come to America. The founding fathers provided us with the 2nd Amendment and that gives you the right to arm yourself for self defense, but you should be responsible about it. If you’re experienced with firearms you should help others arm themselves if they’re interested and help them train responsibly.”
and that would initiate the ban. That’s actually pretty damn close to the comment I posted. And pretty damn close to the other 2A comments that got my other accounts auto-banned.
The bans are too instantaneous to be reviewed by any human. This current account that was banned was MONTHS old with HUNDREDS of comments in opposition to what’s going on right now. Something IN THAT COMMENT got me auto-banned. And this is the same chain of events that have happened to a number of my MONTHS old accounts. And every time it’s a comment I had just posted so it’s fresh in my mind and I know I didn’t break any site rules. I’ve been on Reddit long enough to know how to play the game of saying things without being too forward about it. Especially once I started seeing this trend regarding 2A comments.
My 10,000 karma account was banned by a bot. It makes no difference how old the account is.
Could you tell us what happened, in as much explicit detail as you can can?
Sure. Was using the chat function to talk with a friend. Keyword in the chat was flagged by hivemoderation and I was issued a permanent ban. Appeals went nowhere - I am pretty sure they are done by AI and there is no way to talk to an actual human anymore. Their email bounces. Even I as a mod had no recourse.
Since it is just as easy for a high karma account and subreddit mod to get banned as a newly registered low karma bot, my only conclusion is that over time the average karma will trend downward and it will no longer be possible to identify which accounts are trusted humans and which are just bots, making the content on the site less valuable. I guess spez doesn’t care since he’s already cashed out.
Ah, encore une chose-- I think it hugely likely that their internal analytics (similar to rrc.fyi, reveddit.com, snoosnoop.com, etc) must also play a role.
So more than just acct age, karma and keywords, they probably keep a running ‘quality user’ score that likely factors in to such decisions. You can see examples of what that might look like via those links above. So I’m thinking that a high-karma, old acct with high quality user score probably has more leeway to deal in risky-type keywords.
In any event, they’re a big company with millions of users to manage, so no matter what, they surely have a bunch of fairly complex algorithms to do much of the heavy lifting in terms of site-wide moderation.
I was told explicitly that karma and account age aren’t taken into account for site-wide bans.
Ah-- that entire site now seems whitewashed of that woman’s murder in the streets, just from yesterday.
I stand deeply corrected, and care no more for arguments or details, starting from my own.
it will no longer be possible to identify which accounts are trusted humans and which are just bots, making the content on the site less valuable. I guess spez doesn’t care since he’s already cashed out.
Yeah I’m pretty sure this is where things are headed.
https://socialistra.org/ for anyone who needs to see this
Fuck Reddit fuck spez
This a stupid fucking lie, idiots will believe ANYHING.
Anyone who spends any amount of time there knows this false. The fuck is wrong with you, OP?
I got banned for suggesting we criminally prosecute Elon musk as an enemy of the state.
I got banned for suggesting someone in Trump’s administration should get the death penalty for something that you can actually get the death penalty for.
It could seem to be a possibility from the perspective of OP. Once they ban any account, they usually flag the rest of accounts. They’ve been implementing browser fingerprinting to avoid the ease people had switching over to other account by switching IPs and clearing out account information. They are willing and have even encouraged people to have alt accounts, but the moment they piss off the admins, those alts are just “ban evasion”.
When they do ban, they don’t need much of a reason, they just cite blanket community guidelines, and the only recourse is a review process they can just tell you they reviewed themselves and found they did nothing wrong. It just has to catch their eye in some place they care about. A popular one is protesting or making any comment critical against Israel in the worldnews subreddit.
The admins are willing to do a lot of shitty stuff on the backend - sort of happens when you appoint a CEO who edited user comments without consent. Unlike other CEO’s like Elon or Mark, they are much smarter about it and are aware that if they do it en masse they are going to piss people off. That they can be that much more of a calculating psychopath just makes them that much more dangerous in my book.
They’ve recently shifted from promoting large subreddits into the propaganda bubble slop farms the rest of the social networks are doing. If you want to experience it, join up on some new device and subscribe to a sub like conservative. Sites like reveddit no longer work, you are just asking for it if you main reddit. They even have AI profiling users automatically now. Expect to have a voice, as long as it follows the circlejerk they lead you to follow. Otherwise, expect to be Nosedived between shadow bans, silent comment removals, and the possibility of an eventual ban.
Why do you keep saying this without quoting what you posted?
Repeat what you said if it’s so normal
Ok.
Figured others had experienced the same thing and wanted to chip in their experiences or, if they cared enough, could test it out on their own.
Either way, the comment was auto-deleted by Reddit so I’m just paraphrasing anyway.
I stated that everyone should exercise their 2A right and arm themselves. And if they are already experienced with firearms they should help others who are interested arm themselves and help them train. I also pointed out that, in this political climate, if they want to chat with friends/family about purchasing firearms, they may want to use an end-to-end encrypted messaging app.
That’s it. That was the content of my comment. None of that is questionable. None of that breaks Reddit site wide rules. None of it is a call to violence. And, not that it matters on a privately owned platform, but all of that is supported by our Constitution.
Also, why did you say
Why do you keep saying this
This is the first post I’ve ever made about this. I’ve never even made a comment on Lemmy about this.
Quote it. What did the comment say?
Dude.
You’re a moderator.
Learn how to read.
When Reddit bans you for a comment they DELETE THE COMMENT.
I’ve already, in multiple responses to others on this post, tried to detail what was in the comment as closely as I could.
You sound like you want me to verbatim recreate a comment I posted that was deleted when you probably are well aware that Reddit deletes the comment.
Is this a mod power trip?
Screen grabbed.
If it were a mod power trip, your post or comment would be deleted lol
“As closely as I could” yet you seem unable to restate the content any better than “I supported the second amendment”.
If the pro-2A comments are automatically deleted, why are there subreddits full of them?
“As closely as I could” yet you seem unable to restate the content any better than “I supported the second amendment”.
Again, you prove you are a mod who doesn’t read comments.
Read my comments again. I responded to TWO people with a close approximation of the contents of my comment. In one I even stated “that’s actually pretty damn close”.
So do your mod due diligence and expand the comments and hit CTRL+F and do a search for “that’s actually pretty damn close” to view the comment where I tried to recreate the comment as closely as I could. I just didn’t do it in any of my comments to you because I don’t like you and I’m not repeating myself for you.
See, this is how I know in your other comment to me that you tested my theory and found it false that you didn’t actually test my theory. Because you’ve made it clear you haven’t read my other comments where I detail the contents of my Reddit comment that got me auto-banned. So there’s no way you could know the key words that all have to be in the comment to receive the auto-ban.
You keep yelling the same thing over and over again even though I’ve addressed it… which is kinda funny since you’re saying I didn’t read your comments
Dont let them take your guns
1.) Reddit isn’t going to do that and 2.) OP is a ridiculous liar.
They’re clearly not talking about reddit.
Everyone else is. It’s the subject of this thread.
stupud DID NOT talk about reddit.
This whole thread is about Reddit, you fucking dumbass piece of shit.
Gods damn it, get some fecking context clues.
with
Don’t let them take your guns
doesn’t Stupud refer “them” with Reddit but the authority/government/whathaveyou that are “allowed” to take your guns in America.
Edit: oh okay now I understand your immediate impotent rage. You are a right winger, maybe even Maga.
