A sliver of one at least.
If he’s still a Republican, all he had is a pang of guilt, not a sudden onset of conscience.
It’s a start though.
he also defending Johnathon ross, so no not a conscience.
I’ll take what I can get at this point
He knows he has exactly zero chance of winning the state when his party is the one sending murdering thugs to it’s streets. Now he gets to pretend to be a good person and avoid an embarrassing loss.
Exactly.
No chance of winning so why bother running. Steal what credibility you can and save your effort of sunnier weather.
I’ll take a republican (maybe) having a conscience or even just abandoning a sinking ship over die hard fascists who would go down with the ship and drag as many people with them as they can.
At least he’s virtue signaling instead of vice signaling.
It sounds like vote forecast rather than a moral awakening.
Note to the reactionaries about to diss this guy: He said “Hispanics and Asian” people. Not black people.
So he could be telling the truth 🤔
I think black people are being left out of this about as much as white people? Progress?
Wait, no. Today brown people are the target.
Don’t worry though, I’m sure the white supremacists will turn to more targets after this one if they get their way.
I mean I guess black people fall into the “Heritage Americans” JD Vance cares about
Good Republicans don’t stay Republican for longc
And anyone still one passed that point long, long ago. (Except kids. I feel like the clock only starts once you’re out from your parents’ bubble)
Reminds me when Cawthorn was expelled from the party because he ratted them out about the cocaine and orgies.
Like thats where he draws the line. Everything else was fine.
They draw the line at spilling secrets about other Republicans. Remember this hit from Trump’s last term?
“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” said McCarthy, R-Calif., according to the report.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., has said policymakers in Washington have been too harsh on Russia and should work more closely with Moscow to fight extremist groups.
McCarthy’s comment prompted laughter from some Republicans in the room.
House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., told his colleagues to not share the remarks, the Post reported.
“No leaks, all right? This is how we know we’re a real family here,” Ryan reportedly said.
It doesn’t matter what happens behind closed doors, as long as you don’t talk about what happens there.
That’s pretty standard party politics.
When a democrat fucks up, other democrats call for and get a resignation. When a republican fucks up, they circle the wagons and defend the offender to the last breath. Democrats are not Good but don’t act like they’re the same.
The majority of Democrats don’t even represent America heir voters, and you think they resign? They fuck up routinely and shitheaps like Schumer and Fetterman are still going strong.
Thinking Fetterman is actually a democrat kinda tells us all we need to know about you.
Thinking they’re not says more about you. They are literally some of the highest ranking most important members of the whole group.
You still think they represent you, when they don’t.
People in this thread: “This guy did something okay-ish, but I’ll only consider him to be a good person if he personally kills the president and then himself”
I mean…at least Hitler killed Hitler.
You know what they called people who opposed rounding up jews, gypsies, and the disabled to be disposed of but still backed the party? They were called Nazis because that’s what they were.
You don’t get an award for staying in a party of hate. Defect and take an actual stand instead of using this as a PR boost.
Did you expect him to announce his party switch in the same announcement? Like, he’s taken the biggest stand of any republican politician so far. Yes, that isn’t good enough yet. But when people do something that’s in the right direction and you respond with “FUCK YOU” do you think that helps convince more people to do the same?
This
Yes, it’s not enough and it’s fine to acknowledge that, but when people do good it’s also just as important to acknowledge that as well.
We can speculate about motive but that day he did something good. That doesn’t fix everything, but it’s good and I like that.
I appreciate and agree with this sentiment entirely, but the people who need to hear it won’t.
Lots of people crowing about the (I think it was) Chinese idea of solidarity, where the peaceful protestors shouldn’t undercut or decry the violent protestors because they’re all on the same side. They missed that the incredibly oversimplified concept is meant to flow both ways.
Yes, this isn’t enough, but that doesn’t mean this isn’t also an important step in the right direction. The way this is worded definitely sounds like a party switch. If he’s the horrible asshole everyone here thinks he is, it’s not like it ever takes long for these folks to demonstrate it again.
Your response is exactly why this is an issue. And it is very easy to show why.
You make it sound like beginning your defection is some mountain moving effort. It is not. He could have easily said “I am no longer going to be in the party who ‘Executes People in the Street’”. But instead he knows exactly how to play you.
He had no issue when they started handing out the playbook on how they will destroy the country. He had no issue when ICE came to his state and started rounding up all the black and brown people. He had no issue when they started violating the rights of actual US citizens because ICE didn’t give a shit who they round up. He had no issue when they shot Renee Good in the head. He had no issue when they started using children as bait. He had no issue when they executed Alex Pretti in the street.
It was only when he read the room and realized that he could not win the governorship that he finally took pause. He crafts a tweet and sprinkles in a comment about his daughter because he knew it would pull at the heart strings of naive people like yourself. He has no issue being in the party who Executes People in the Street. He just realized that losing in a landslide will destroy his career.
How hard is it to say I am no longer going to be in the party who Executes People in the Street?
It is a mountain moving effort, though. Humans are deeply social creatures. Every thing that surrounds this guy has incentivized him to believe and behave in a way that keeps him part of the tribe. It’s safe to stay in line.
We do not know that he had no issue with the terrible things that happened. But we do know that the whole of American conservatism is set up to squash those doubts as soon as they come up. To keep everyone in line or face being ostracized.
He has not done enough, yet. But there is a huge difference between telling someone “yes, good, you’re starting to get it” and “fuck you, dude, you’re irredeemable.” There is certainly a core of shitheads that is irredeemable. But most people caught up in this think they’re doing the right thing.
Obviously they’re not doing the right thing. But they want to. Imposing day one ideological purity tests does not make it easier for them to change their minds about what the right thing is.
…doing one good thing after a lifetime of aligning yourself with and assisting terrible people doing terrible things does not make you a good person. He just found the line he wasn’t willing to cross, and that was jackboots in the street murdering random people in broad daylight. He was fine with everything up until that line.
Hey, man - don’t worry about all the downvotes. I also can’t figure out why people wouldn’t be willing to extend an olive branch to someone who has willfully aligned themselves with the modern Nazi party until he decided that it would no longer be a winning strategy in his district. It’s a complete mystery.
This isn’t someone who voted for Trump waking up to reality and saying they regret it. This isn’t someone who sees the error in their ways and making amends.
This is a coward. It takes no courage to quit a race while still defending a murderer like Jonathan Ross.
Fuck this guy.
You may not know this yet, but this guy is the attorney representing Jonathan Ross… And has made a statement that he still supports Trump…
I think it’s good he saying something, but dropping out of the race doesn’t do anyone any good. Run as a Republican in vocal opposition or as an independent, then there will be action behind his words.
People in this thread if that happened: “Oh, he says he doesn’t like it, but he’s still running for governor as part of the republican party. He just wants his power and as part of the GOP he’ll always be compromised.”
Do you want a better world? Let people become better people instead of crushing their bones.
Lets not pretend that he’s grown a conscience. What he doesn’t want is a humiliating defeat that would tarnish any dreams of a legacy he wants going forward. They will be back just not at this very moment whilst the party is super unpopular there.
He’s representing the fascist assassin Jonathan Ross…
Show me a consistent framework of justice where it was okay for John Adams to represent the guys who did the Boston Massacre but that guy (who is a shitbag who murdered someone) shouldn’t be represented.
I agree, he’s a murderer and should be prosecuted to the greatest extent of the law. But representation is part of that law.
How are so many people in this thread saying “yes, Trump bad” but also “I want to do exactly what Trump does but to other people instead”
The implication (I hope) is that noone is representing him that isn’t a public defender. This man should be so socially radioactive that only the lawyers ordered by the court consider it.
I’m not saying this is what it’s happening here, but I swear I recall a story of a lawyer who knew his client was guilty and wanted him to be put away for life, but defended them to the best of his ability to ensure that they wouldn’t get a mistrial on the basis of Ineffective Assistance of Counsel.
Half the country thinks he was actively defending himself from an active shooter. They’re wrong, obviously. But to suggest that social pressure should make him unrepresentable is ridiculous.
I didn’t know Ross was being charged, I figured Trump had opted to just give him a medal and a paid vacation.
i think i saw on reddit Madel wrote a memo on how to get “ross legal help form the DOJ or another legal firm and would be totally covered pro-bono” hes a total pos
What a total shitpiece
hes doing it to save face, and also why trump sorta backpadeled on ice, he was trying to boost madel campaign. it includes ross getting charged or SUED.
You did in fact, sign up for that
The guy got blowback for being Jonathan Ross’ attorney right now. Conscience my ass.
This exactly. Fuck him and fuck Jonathan Ross.
Well, it’s clear he’s still republican because even in his statement he makes it about him.
“I did not sign up for this.”
Shame he didn’t drop dead.
It took until now for that to sink in? This isn’t morality, this is simply jumping ship after taking way too fucking long to read the room. This is a scared rat on a sinking boat, nothing more.
I’m sure he was able to make excuses when they were at least kind of pretending they weren’t being super racist.
Conscience? No. This is just common sense. He knows there is no chance in hell he’d win and no way to defend the ICE fiasco, so he’s making a shiw of dropping out. Smart. He’s giving himself giid PR for an election when things are less heated.
Nah, a republican looking at the optics, saying some good words, and hiding for a bit.
