“Very, very senior” officials in the Trump administration have had secret meetings with far-right Canadian separatists trying to shake the foundations of the country. The covert meetings between high-ranking U.S. officials and the Alberta Prosperity Project come as a widening rift appears between Canadian leadership and the White House. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney used a speech in Davos, Switzerland, last week to call out President Trump for creating a “rupture” in the existing world order.
Archive article: https://archive.is/9FsBL#selection-723.0-727.336
This is the “new world order” Alex Jones type psychos have pretended to be afraid of. Now that it’s happening, they fucking love it because the reality was they just needed a scary story to attach to people they already hated. Now that the people they like are creating the new world order, they fucking love it. As long as they control the one world government, they’d love for that to happen.
It’s always projection.
All y’all thought there was going to be a US Civil War, but it turns out the first shots are getting fired across the Alberta/Saskatchewan border.
Although the show is pissing me off its clear that Tim Cain, Leonard Boyarsky, Jason Anderson, Chris Taylor, Mark O’Green, Scott Bennie and Christopher Taylor from Fallout 1 definitely did get somethings right ie the US trying to invade Canada.
Standard US playbook. Find lackeys who want to destabilise and split a country and fund their coup.
Although the show is pissing me off
Aw crap, I’m starting ep 1 this weekend, how does it go off the rails?
Not op, but I’m a huge fallout nerd. I love it, some of the story decisions are weird and retcons happen, but overall it captures the world beautifully and is hilarious IMO.
Never going to happen. Just some stupid people that avoid facts and only watch conspiracy videos.
In the spirit of Ralph Klein, I think we out to buy these folks one way tickets to the American state of their preference. Let ICE sort them out.
The far-right international coordination must be crushed.
Through far-left international coordination, perhaps??
Reactive-programming, using the same methods, ISN’T strategic-win: it’s just becoming the same underlying-nature, in different “makeup”.
Humankind needs to hold to objectivity, correct-reasoning, breaking ideological-programming, breaking false-framing, breaking machiavellianism ( from ALL sides ), etc,
& that takes fundamental, profound, strategic investment, & that isn’t happening.
So, … kiss most of humankind goodbye, this-century, perhaps even all of it.
It’ll be finished by next-century, probably, the “armageddon” we manufacture ( for our unconscious-mind to play “god” in ).
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Democracy_Union it’s not even a conspiracy, it’s in the open.
This is the most insufferable post I’ve read on Lemmy, congrats
Then automatically downvote everything you see of mine: it costs little, & it makes the world be more to your liking.
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“OH NO! SOMEBODY WANT TO KICK FASCISM IN THE FACE UNTIL IT STOPS BREATHING AND REPLACE IT WITH BASIC DIGNITY FOR ALL! STOP THEM RIGHT NOW, FOR THE BLOOD-THIRSTY REICH MUST BE FOUGHT ON THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS -THEN- MAYBE THEY’LL STOP DEPORTING AND KILLING PEOPLE!”
I’ve never understood the cuck logic of a nation which has absolutely no trouble sending troops to DESTROY entire countries in the name of oi-- “freedom” (to eat at Mc Donalds after your contry’s been carpet bombed? Wtf?), but will absolutely not confront a threat that is existential to the entire fucking planet when it’s right in front of them.
And you have guns. You have guns and he’s still alive.
You must really love your little orange pedoführer.
I think the fundamental-problem is narcissism-culture.
The US is more narcissism-culture than the rest of us are, & that’s got consequences…
the propaganda in US “education” is … sickening, & I’ve only seen people describing it…
I was in the US shortly after 9/11, & … nationalism is their religion … straight-up religion.
All-saturating, they breathe it, nothing is tolerated to happen outside it, it’s … not fun.
Since then, I discovered that nationalism-religion is actually normal!
Blewmy mind…
I think that New Zealand & Canada partially escaped that, & that it’s probably the fact that Nature so defined our experiences that we just didn’t go as-far-down that road?
Ah, you assumed I’m US-citizen…
Sorry, no.
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Humankind needs to hold to objectivity, correct-reasoning, breaking ideological-programming, breaking false-framing, breaking machiavellianism ( from ALL sides ), etc,
This reads like 10 feel good quotes smashed together without any logic.
Paradigms produce their-paradigm’s results.
Never bother expecting empathy from a sociopathic-paradigm, right?
The paradigm-ITSELF as to be corrected.
No more-superficial amendment’s going to change anything.
& if you deem my meanings to be logicless, then simply downvote them all, to improve our world.
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I heckin’ HATE the Alberta Prosperity Project! If we ever went “independent” we’d get Venezuela’d immediately!
This is double upsetting for me, since I’m fleeing the US to go to Alberta, hahaha. That would be some fucking irony.
Alberta wouldn’t ever be “independent.” At best they would basically get annexed by the US, same way Russia took Crimea, claiming that the presence of separatists justified their actions.
Alberta has always dreamed of being a US state.
That’s why its the target. They’ll still be debating among themselves as APCs roll in.
Yeah, they all talk a big game about independence, but it’s all hogwash.
Do not underestimate Alberta. the last election was about sovereignty and 92% of ridings went to MAGA.
92% of ridings != 92% of Albertan Voters. The UCP only got 52.6% of the vote.
ETA: Land doesn’t vote. Maps can be misleading.
Who cares, that’s not how elections work in Canada. “Only 52%” voted MAGA -proud of that?? That’s enough to win a separtist referendumb.
So l’il PP lost, and the party then makes a US citizen the leader AGAIN, and yet another AB riding elects MAGA. So yeah, they would become North Montana in a heartbeat.
I’d like to see a referendum to kick out Alberta because the country is sick of their right-wing bullshit polluting our politics after hijacking the PC brand.
Why are you mad at me? Lol. I was pointing out that it’s not as bad as the riding count makes it look. I am not your enemy guy.
You can be a douchebag and advocate to kick Alberta out, sure. I’m not that big of a defeatist though. We had an NDP gov a few years ago, and support for the UCP is getting flaky. There are a lot of progressive grassroots movements that are going through the province.
That’s the STRATEGY.
Thank you for making it explicit.
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Thank you for making me see that it is a strategy!
I feel like it’s a safe assumption more Americans in border states want to join Canada than the other way around.
I think even Cali would told it came to a vote and they’d already gained terrority adjacent to Cali thru the Pacific Northwest
That would be a true death low to the American Empire, without Cali we’d be fucked.
It would never happen, but it’d be worth Canada to hype it up just because if trump has to play defense, he just stops playing the game and starts a new one. That’s whY the whole TACO thing is, but because someone on social media made up a buzzword, no one really understands what’s happening
Trump dictates that other countries comply & submit to his bullying, ELSE US’s tarriffs will bludgeon their economies until they obey.
Now extrapolate Trump’s curve, from the 1980’s, when The Kremlin Papers indicate Putin was investing in him, until now, & keep the acceleration in that curve.
“Majority opinion” or whatever it is that you’re believing rules, now, ISN’T what rules:
He’s on-track to break the US Constitution’s significance within months or weeks, probably by the Insurrection Act.
ICE’s purpose isn’t even obvious, yet: once he “de-naturalizes” all who won’t vow allegiance to him, directly ( as he apparently already does for senior beaurocrats in multiple federal agencies ), suddenly are “illegals”, & that means 100’s of millions of “illegals”, & then the reason he insists they have TOTAL immunity will become blatent.
Deathmatch, between his authority vs the disintegrated, not-organized, “woke”, & if everybody is destroyed, so long as nobody-else won, then he wins.
Negative-Sum game ( competitive-nihilism ) combined with Zero-Sum game ( competitive-narcissism ).
IF a country WON’T prevent DarkTriad from gaining authority, THEN that country will be ruled, & probably destroyed, by DarkTriad’s ruling it.
Karma, aka “sow->reap law”.
We WOULDN’T prevent DarkTriad from ruling our countries, .: we’re about to be getting fatal consequences.
The rules are fundamentally changing beneath us, right now, & shortly the tippingpoint gets crossed, then Civil War Part2: confederate reverse-takeover & vengeance
begins all-out.
Canada, too, gets torn up, by the prejudice-enforcers in Alberta & Quebec ( & the Anglo-supremacists who bully Quebecois validity, & the rest of the factional-supremacists: ALL sides have them, including Indigenous people, Whites, India, Chinese, ALL kinds of saboteurs of Canada’s viability… it’s natural, given how little we invested in establishing common-experience, like what Katimavik used to do )
Prep, if you want to live long in the next stage of our world: it’ll be violent, once the right-wing has shed rule-of-law for rule-of-authority, completely.
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Trump dictates that other countries comply & submit to his bullying, ELSE US’s tarriffs will bludgeon their economies until they obey.
Which is why the EU is currently making trade agreements with just about everyone on the planet. The USA handing out tariffs like candy is a lot less relevant when you can pivot your trade elsewhere on fairly short order.
Such an agreement with Canada has been in the works for the last ten years. All that’s currently missing is for it to be ratified by all involved countries, which might go a bit quicker now given how the States are behaving.
Shit, I live in NJ and I’d like to join Canada, minus the whole monarch head of state part. I’m willing to overlook that for obvious reasons. I like hockey guys, let me in! I suspect that I should probably keep the fact that I’m a flyers fan on the down low.
We overlook it a lot too. Like, the Governor General is appointed by the reigning monarch, and has final say on laws and such, but it’s mostly a ceremonial role. I don’t think we’ve ever had royal assent refused? I am no political scholar tho.
Monarchy has no power in Canada. At all.
Then why do all my quarters have big ears now 😭
I’m pretty sure the Gov. General can revoke royal assent on behalf of the monarch. That doesn’t happen a lot, but I think it could technically and legally still happen. But yeah, the royals almost no impact. Except for the time the royal couple people visited Slave Lake after the fire (JK).
MAGA showed up in Greenland, handed red hats to homeless people ands aid “Look how much they want us here”
They’re doing the same thing in Alberta. The “Forever Canada” petition showed that people sitting on street-corners could gather 400k signatures to stay in Canada.
A well funded Maga Movement is renting out stadiums for a counter petition. I expect they’ll get less than 100k signatures.
Find the people handing out the red hats then beat their fucking knees to mush, then send them back to the Nazied States of America.
Not sure what else this guy has to do before the majority of Americans grasp that he’s an actual, real life, traitor.
What’s it going to take for Canada to start you know viewing this as treason from certain people? Cuz it’s absolutely treason.
I live in the treasonous province and I’ll tell you most people in Edmonton at least are real Canadians and not fascists.
The fairly luke-warm ‘stay’ petition, rabid ‘leave’ petitions, and generally failing recall attempts, seem to paint a slightly more muddled picture.
At least BC’s premier is openly using the Treason word for this shit.
I wouldn’t call that “Luke warm” at all. It was a massive amount of people in a relatively short window of time.
Yeah, I don’t know what he’s talking about. Forever Canadian got over 400k signatures before the rules got changed to make it easier. I signed it while wandering around a festival where they had a booth set up. That signature was not exciting, but it was no-brainer.
The sepratists have a rabid fan base that will line up around the block to sign, but that’s it. After that they have nothing. They are firmly in the minority with only 20-30% considering it. That tracks with the average for idiots in a population that will vote for anything.
Any petition aimed at retaining the status quo will have a lukewarm response.
If Canada takes a page out of America’s book then there could be an actual violent insurrection and masked federal agents executing Canadians and they still won’t view it as treason.
Yup, needs to be shut down and them charged, and then you’ll see a US temper tantrum, which just proves what they were up to.
The fucking Russians are mixing with those morons too. Send the far-right Canadians fuck ups for a 6 month stay in the Oklahoma and Mississippi Oblasts. That should clear their fucked up ideas.
I guarantee Israel and the Zionist tech bros are involved
I’d say California should hold a referendum to join Canada in response, but then I discovered California’s economy alone has 4.3 trillion GDP compared to all of Canada’s 2.6 trillion. Amazing that the average Canadian still has better access to healthcare 😅
California is THE fourth largest economy in the world with the first being the USA as a whole.
What place is USA without California?
Still number 1
This is based on the World Bank 2024 numbers, US had $28.7 trillion, China 18.7, and California 4.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)And without the entire west coast (assuming without Alaska), because the three states basically move as one.
Still number 1.
California, Oregon, and Washington GDP all together is about $5.1 trillion, and US overall is 10 trillion ahead of China.
As a German I would prefer California in the EU. I’d be ok to send EU money to Denmark, so they can buy California.
Image West Coast Weather AND hygge in one single state.
Well you might get Canada in the EU soon.
That would be great.
Oooh, update. Just found the other post https://lemmy.world/post/42340747
Unfortunately won’t happen but it’d be great to have a Norway-style European integration for Canada: no official EU status but practically behaving as it was
I bet that if California had universal healthcare, the GDP would skyrocket. Healthy people are productive people. Ditto for doing free education, genuine anti-corruption, and…(goes on)
that’s communism according to the federal gov expect ICE soon
What? If the country looks after the population, the population will look after the country? That would never work! You know, except for the various countries where it provably does work…
Why the fuck does this administration think they can just buy countries?? Like where tf is all this coming from?
Because not a single world leader is stepping up to do anything about it. Although they don’t intend to buy anything, that’s the excuse to the pretense to war. “We tried to acquire them peacefully but there was no reasoning with them. Acquiring Canada was for national security”
If the Canadian government or EU actually cared, the Canadian border would look like the Korean DMZ. But instead the UK sends one troop to Greenland.
An asshole who was taught his whole life that he can buy whatever he wants and do whatever he wants without consequence was shat into office.
It’s just a continuation
and thus far, the world is still yet to prove otherwise
Is Canada going to be a good vassal or a slave. Asking for a friend.
How is this not an act of war?
My guess is the actual answer is something like
“Because we all do it a little, we just pretend nobody knows and we’re not stupid enough to get caught like these guys lmao.”
No one here wants this. It’s an incredibly small minority of morons and nothing will ever come of it. It’s just a bunch of noise because our premier is a piece of dog shit. She will be gone come next election, if she lasts until then.
From your lips to God’s ears, gentle Albertan. I’m out in Ontario and get wildly different takes on how “serious” the Separatist movement is. Some people report is as you say, some say it’s “gaining traction”. Highly suspect sources go further, claiming the idea is popular. Even screening out Post Media, there are journalists reporting it as a “very real threat due to institutional support in the Premier’s office”.
No, there is no “gaining traction”. The only conversations being had are behind our backs within the provincial government and then that stupid fuck going down to the USA.
Thats what we thought back in 2015 when Trump first ran for president in the U.S… Now look at us.
So tit-for-tat being fair play, sounds like Canada can kidnap and imprison Trump.
Thank you, I just daydreamed this for a moment. That was nice.
Me too. Wouldn’t it be funny if we kidnapped him an no one really tried to get him back?
And no-one COULD find 'em? Or “whoops we put him on a rocket aimed at the sun”? And then mysteriously all their cronies vanished?
OK the come down from this isn’t gonna be good but I’m enjoying the moment.
Only with 12 aircraft carriers though.
