Too late assholes… I’m already deleting most of the posts I made on my discord and I will be migrating elsewhere soon.
Too late. The dust has already settled.
So they’re going to scan everything you do with AI to figure out how old you are instead. Not really better.
They already do this for advertising. And it is extremely accurate.
Not to mention, even if it proves satisfactory to the existing userbase, any new users will start with no history to draw inferences from, wouldn’t that tend to imply that any existing users unaffected are essentially “grandfathered in”, but with the same privacy concerns for everyone else in the long run?
they have already done this for at least the last year or so easily. I noticed it when I requested by data package last year, theres a clear area on it that infers both your gender and your age in it.
They are just acting like this is a “new system” but in reality its a system that have had for awhile now, just didn’t have any public facing usage of it.
For anyone else that wants to see it themselves, and they have a discord takeout.
its located at the very bottomin the events file in activity/analytics.the end ofthe file shows json objects that indicate what your predicted age and gender is.edit: I found this file isn’t a static location, it is still in the activity/analytics directory in one of your event files, but you need to search “age” or “gender” to find it if it isn’t at the bottom
They aren’t walking back anything. They just repeated their claim, that “most people won’t even have to give their IDs, because our AI will read all your messages and decide if you’re 18”
because our AI will read all your messages and decide if you’re 18
What the fuck that’s even worse
I read thay Youtube is doing that with watch history so teens are watching videos about taxes, back pain, retirement benefits and such to appear old.
So they haven’t walked anything back, they’re just adding in a motherfucking clanker as a middleman. What could go wrong?
Big corporations have absolutely laid waste to the internet. There’s nothing left unspoiled at this point.
Deleting posts is just setting visibility to 0. They still exist, and you should assume they exist forever.
Not enough for me, I deleted my Discord account yesterday and what they’re saying isn’t enough to get me to cancel the deletion. I already hate using Discord enough as is, I don’t want this Nazi bullshit to ruin it even more.
If Discord cared about this, they’d use the same identity platforms governments use. For example, in the US, id.me is a requirement for many federal services. While it does deanonymize me and there are privacy concerns expanding this tech beyond government services, I trust id.me to take my data security seriously. It has to have federal security requirements. If their data is breached, there will be repercussions and reparations.
Discord, on the other hand, uses random vendors. There were no repercussions or reparations for the previous leak. Discord said moving forward they’d require SOC2 Type II or ISO 27001 for vendors. Crucially, neither of these certifications matter a fucking iota for personally identifiable information and Discord itself will not be completely them so even if the vendors were PII secure Discord will not hold itself to the same standards. Discord does not care about its users; Discord only cares about the ad revenue this will open up.
If they cared about handling of PII they should require ISO 27701
Oh absolutely. More importantly Discord needs to also follow the standard, not just require it of their vendors. Granted this source is the only place I can find they’re requiring that so that might not actually be true. It kinda reads like an AI summary.
I don’t even trust id.me. Why would I give my ID and photo or video to a corporation that is contracting with the Trump administration?
I thought the requirements came from the Biden admin but I’m not able to find evidence of this.
What you’re describing is the prisoner’s dilemma. In theory, none of us should interact with the current admin because if that happened they’d shut down. Of course if we did that, many federal employees and all of the contractors wouldn’t be able to feed their kids in a week or so, so it only works if we can guarantee a universal strike without scabs. But wait, we know people are actively joining ICE, so everyone with half a brain dropping government work doesn’t guarantee those without a brain won’t scab. If we have scabs, then future admin is left with a poisoned well and that existing possibly okay workforce is now on the breadline with an admin that’s not only hostile to breadlines but anyone who fights back. Don’t forget costs are currently skyrocketing for everything and electricity is about to be through the roof everywhere. In other words, many people have the choice of morals or food for their kids. Or healthcare if that resonates more.
Assuming you’re in the US, will you file your taxes this year? Since you’re not willing to give anyone contracting with the Trump admin your personal information, you’ll have to do them by hand. Even a CPA is technically doing work for the IRS who is part of the Trump admin even if he’s suing them. Are you allowing your employer to keep social security and Medicare taxes? If so, I think you might have discovered a reason why a rational person who is just trying to get by might intentionally support the Trump admin. If not, by god, you have stronger morals than I do and good luck with that jail sentence. Unfortunately, some of us have to participate in society even though we want to improve it.
Edit: I want to make it clear that my annoyance with your response is the Trump admin bit. If you had said “why trust a private company with my govt” I would have said yeah digital ID is hard that’s a really good point we needed trusted govt actors not capitalists to handle this stuff. My point about repercussions and reparations is something the Trump admin is ostensibly on board with so it doesn’t really matter what the greedy fucking billionaires do so long as they fuck each other up for breaking their own rules. That’s actually another great counter and something I’ve said elsewhere; the Trump admin is pretty anti consumer so you’d think here they’d fuck the little guy. A breach in this instance costs them face and money so they care a small amount, even more so if it’s cronyism. Either the world is going to end with Trump or there will be a world after Trump and I for one have to plan for a world after Trump where the US is dealing with all the other problems we’ve made.
Nope I don’t trust them to use a US-based service. Also I don’t think they’re even allowed to as under EU law as all data held on users must be held on EU servers, so that solution wouldn’t be a one size fits all.
If Discord cared about this, they’d use the same identity platforms governments use. For example, in the US
I don’t think there is a one-size solution which is why I said Discord should use the same platforms plural that govts use. A solution for France isn’t going to be the same solution for the US. Because Discord is not actively attempting to use solutions (again plural) that have repercussions and reparations attached, like the ones governments use that require healthy standards, it’s very clear Discord does not actually care about this problem.
I don’t even trust Id.me. If the government needs to securely identify someone they should be setting it up themselves instead of us trusting some random company that used to provide coupons to soldiers.
Yeah that’s a totally fair response. Lithuania did it.
What, and lose an opportunity to funnel tax money to private interests?
DIscord: GUYs! You’ll NEVER BELIEVE THIS!!! Instead of invasively reading out every one of your personal identifications and selling the data on your likes/dislikes, we can ACTUALLY just use an AI to tell if you’re a child by how your interact with people!!!
Us: Maybe you could have the AI just stop the stalkers.
Discord:
The cat has been let out of the bag. I’m still moving somewhere else once I figured out where with friends.
They still have the AI shit that looks at your posts to try and determine if you are an adult.
Fuck that.
Like everything else everyone has ever posted outside the fediverse?
There’s shitloads of AIs reading the fediverse, too. Absolutely doing the same infomining as the discord age bot - but it’s not the moderators doing it, at least.
nods I suspected as much.
Never seen any search results through :)
They had it way before they announced, apparently. Because I ate a ban for apparently saying I’m 9 somewhere (I don’t actually remember posting that, I suspect a certain someone got to my account to get me banned).
migrate to matrix.
I need to bring my casual friends and they will never install matrix. It is too alien too them with all this “instance/federation mumbo jumbo”.
just tell them to use matrix.org with cometchat(?) I forgot the client name but that would be easier
Already done.
Yeah, so, “most users” won’t have to post video selfies or their ID, but you’ll still have to accept active spyware feeding information to an AI model that checks all your activity.
This is still equally as bad.
The company’s deploying AI-powered inference to estimate user ages based on behavioral patterns, account history, and other signals already in its systems. Only when that automated prediction fails or flags uncertainty will users face requests for manual verification through ID uploads or facial scanning.
Oh, so it’s even easier to game it and pretend to be “an adult”. Simply avoid any minecraft and roblox communities to be an instant adult.
Discord didn’t specify exactly what percentage constitutes a “vast majority,” nor did it detail which signals feed into its age prediction models. That lack of transparency could become its own issue as regulators increasingly scrutinize how platforms handle youth safety versus privacy rights.
Big brother is watching you masturbate, for your own good, of course.
For the subset of users who do get flagged for manual verification, Discord says it’s partnering with third-party services that specialize in age verification tech. These vendors typically process ID documents or facial scans without permanently storing biometric data, though implementation details remain vague.
It’s not permanent storage if they delete after safely selling to interested buys!
As lawmakers ramp up age verification requirements globally, expect more platforms to walk this tightrope between compliance and community trust.
I wonder if this is what might actually push more people into “host your own shit” that’s easy to shut down and migrate as needed.
They will never delete it anyway. They might park it in a different spot, sell it as well, then delete where they originally stored it. The new spot they part it might even have a degree of separation or so from the company. But they never delete information, don’t ever trust they do.
I’ll be honest, The UK introduced these age verification and ID issues and many places were forced to follow suit. Discord being one of them and I’m sure at somepoint it did pop up but I’ve never signed up for it and I’ve continued to use the software without issue.
My Xbox demands to see my ID so I cancelled my Subscription. If discord starts demanding it I’ll be moving back to Teamspeak or Mumble.
Wait what? Xbox needs a subscription? To play the games you own? They are forcing you to prove your age to play adult video games now? Jesus Christ. We need to find workarounds for all of this, it’s a privacy issue, and a property rights issue. We bought this stuff, it’s ours. We can’t be forced to ask for permission to use our own shit.
Xbox needs a subscription? To play the games you own?
No, you don’t. You can play the games you own just fine without one. They probably mean either the gamepass subscription or xbox live subscription.
They haven’t though.
They’ve just restated the exact same thing but then added on hollow empty promises of “this time we’ll be better, I swear!”
