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JimmyMemes@lemmy.world to memes@lemmy.world · 5 months ago

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JimmyMemes@lemmy.world to memes@lemmy.world · 5 months ago
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    5 months ago

    Wrong

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      5 months ago

      Brother in christ, i work with energy companies that do renewable energy and trust me, that stuff is really expensive to maintain for the amount of power you get out of it, Even the amount of environmental disturbance those wind turbines cause alone, un healthy for people, unhealthy for animals(Look it up). Nuclear power is very safe these days and there are storage places like Onkalo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repository Which make storing the waste super easy and viable as well as secure for even post human civilizations.

      The only thing green energy is good for is politics

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        Well turbines kill birds. Just 10000 times less than cats. Good luck aligning budget for 10 - 20 years with this volatile economy. I can sustain myself and my family with solar easily

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        And i cant remember when was the last time solar panels poisoned the land for 10000 years

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          https://rewi.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/REWI-Solar-Energy-Wildlife-Interactions-Summary-2023.pdf Interesting read on fatalities in north america though they mention they could not find a root cause yet due to lack of data

          https://sistinesolar.com/solar-panels-and-wildlife/

          • Depending on the kind of setup, if a central tower is used to concentrate the light to boil water the concentrated light become a death trap to birds and insects
          • These plants can appear as lakes due to the reflection and colors(Especially in deserts where these are build confusing wild life
          • The floating solar power systems disrupt fish activity and affect water quality
          • It also messes up migrations of birds(Wind turbines can do this too)

          It is still infidelity better than carbon in the skies but if you put this against nuclear energy and treat the MAN MADE NUCLEAR DISASTERS for what they are MAN MADE then you can see that nuclear power in this day and age is very very safe because we have years of safety development.

          People who do not understand this are still stuck in the past or follow a global anti Nuclear rethoric without putting in the time to actually understand the technology.

          Meltdowns are a thing of the past when thorium salt reactors become mainstream because those reactions dont run away they halt the moment you remove the fuel, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten-salt_reactor

          MSRs eliminate the nuclear meltdown scenario present in water-cooled reactors because the fuel mixture is kept in a molten state. The fuel mixture is designed to drain without pumping from the core to a containment vessel in emergency scenarios, where the fuel solidifies, quenching the reaction. In addition, hydrogen evolution does not occur. This eliminates the risk of hydrogen explosions (as in the Fukushima nuclear disaster).[2] They operate at or close to atmospheric pressure, rather than the 75–150 times atmospheric pressure of a typical light-water reactor (LWR).

          Nuclear power is really cool and i highly suggest you give it a chance at least in researching it, there are tons of awesome videos on YouTube to help with this which gave me a ton of insight and storage facilities like:

          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repository
          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Power_Generation's_Deep_Geologic_Repository
          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Waste_Management_Organization_(Canada)
          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schacht_Asse_II
          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repository_for_radioactive_waste_Morsleben
          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_dome_Gorleben
          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schacht_Konrad
          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolseong_Low_and_Intermediate_Level_Radioactive_waste_Disposal_Center
          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_repository_for_short-lived_radioactive_waste
          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_Isolation_Pilot_Plant and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_repository to name a few give me hope that this nuclear waste has plenty of places to go to sit out their long half time by the end of it becomes inert
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            I see 2 problems First - human error and human greed.

            Second - we solve problems only after we face a disaster, we never know if the system is flawless right now.

            And Id rather live near solar grid that might malfunction sometimes and requires maintenance every decade.

            But I respect your anti ff point of view. I also understand everything you talking about. I wasted too many years learning chemistry, engineering

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